TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Era_shield]

Looks like BAE systems got some inspiration from TF-X
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Looks like an MMU with arthritis

 

[TheInsider]

The latest updated schedule of TAI

2022
The first delivery of the T-625 Gökbey 6T light utility helicopter(3x) to Gendarmes

18 March 2023
Hürjet first flight
T-929 ATAK-II (Heavy Attack Helicopter) first flight
TF-X/MMU roll-out
Serial production of T-625 Gökbey.

2024
T-625 Gökbey with national engines
T-925 10T Utility helicopter first flight.

2025
Hürjet serial production(trainer version)
Hürjet LCA version first flight
TF-X/MMU First flight
T-929 ATAK-II serial production

2026
Serial production of T925 10T Utility helicopter

2027
Hürjet LCA serial production

2028
TF-X/MMU LRIP production (The first delivery to the Turkish Airforce)

2030
TF-X/MMU Serial production.

 

[Rodeo]

2028 can be expected to be the year Türkiye will get to 90% self reliance in technology, military and civilian.

I wonder what the revenue sheet of TAI will look like in 2027. There will be so many complete platforms by then. Any guesses on the revenue of TAI in 2027?

 

[Radonsider]

Wondering about that as well... I'd like to get more glimpses of the simulator. I think I noticed a new nose! Good thing that the new design is slowly starting to surface.

Hmm interesting, current one is already good, maybe they changed something with the radome?

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1547252649644490752

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1547252649644490752

What is the minimum thrust requirement for the TFX again ?

 

[Yasar_TR]

What is the minimum thrust requirement for the TFX again ?

33-35000lbf class turbofan. Definitely no less than 30000lbf.

 

[Yasar_TR]

A true stealth engine like the ones in B2 bombers have higher bypass ratios.
So RR is on the right track.

 

[Radonsider]

There are + and - sides of this.

+Good thrust if they use good materials for the core, can get 33-35k lbf

+Benefits IR Stealth

+Lower fuel consumption

-Slow acceleration (I don't know if this can be fixed with modifications)
-Bad high altitude performance (55-65k feet) (not much needed, so we can skip that)

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Temel Kotil:

“Our engines which we will use in prototypes until 2028, that we supply from GE are ready. On the other hand, our TR Motor company, which is our subsidiary, will have developed the domestic engine until 2028. TR Motor prepared the preliminary design. We are good at software. Our young engineers are achieving success with our well-equipped infrastructure. We are pretty good at fast production. We have gained significant knowledge with Hürjet which we developed in a short time with Hürkuş and his experience. We use new design techniques in our jet trainer Hürjet. With this experience, we are rapidly developing MMU. In addition, the 1.4 mach supersonic Hürjet is faster than the planes of rival companies. We have developed a 1.4 mach jet from our turboprop aircraft Hürkuş in 5 years. With these works, we will have done to the MMU with a speed of 1.8 mach"

 

[Tsenal]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1547252649644490752

So a variable cycle engine?

 

[Radonsider]

Mr Temel Kotil:

“Our engines which we will use in prototypes until 2028, that we supply from GE are ready. On the other hand, our TR Motor company, which is our subsidiary, will have developed the domestic engine until 2028. TR Motor prepared the preliminary design. We are good at software. Our young engineers are achieving success with our well-equipped infrastructure. We are pretty good at fast production. We have gained significant knowledge with Hürjet which we developed in a short time with Hürkuş and his experience. We use new design techniques in our jet trainer Hürjet. With this experience, we are rapidly developing MMU. In addition, the 1.4 mach supersonic Hürjet is faster than the planes of rival companies. We have developed a 1.4 mach jet from our turboprop aircraft Hürkuş in 5 years. With these works, we will have done to the MMU with a speed of 1.8 mach"

Ooh fuck, no RR now

 

[Zafer]

Motor company, which is our subsidiary, will have developed the domestic engine until 2028

I am all for a TRMotor developed domestic engine. It is also a matter of national pride to have such an engine other than being a matter of national security. It won't matter if a first iteration engine may not be satisfactory, we keep trying until we make it.

 

[B.t.N]

Mr Temel Kotil:

“Our engines which we will use in prototypes until 2028, that we supply from GE are ready. On the other hand, our TR Motor company, which is our subsidiary, will have developed the domestic engine until 2028. TR Motor prepared the preliminary design. We are good at software. Our young engineers are achieving success with our well-equipped infrastructure. We are pretty good at fast production. We have gained significant knowledge with Hürjet which we developed in a short time with Hürkuş and his experience. We use new design techniques in our jet trainer Hürjet. With this experience, we are rapidly developing MMU. In addition, the 1.4 mach supersonic Hürjet is faster than the planes of rival companies. We have developed a 1.4 mach jet from our turboprop aircraft Hürkuş in 5 years. With these works, we will have done to the MMU with a speed of 1.8 mach"

Temel Kotil should have stayed as the GM of Turkish Airlines where he excelled. With so many variables beyond his control, he sounds way too optimistic on TR Motor’s credentials.

 

[Bogeyman]

Mr Temel Kotil:

“Our engines which we will use in prototypes until 2028, that we supply from GE are ready. On the other hand, our TR Motor company, which is our subsidiary, will have developed the domestic engine until 2028. TR Motor prepared the preliminary design. We are good at software. Our young engineers are achieving success with our well-equipped infrastructure. We are pretty good at fast production. We have gained significant knowledge with Hürjet which we developed in a short time with Hürkuş and his experience. We use new design techniques in our jet trainer Hürjet. With this experience, we are rapidly developing MMU. In addition, the 1.4 mach supersonic Hürjet is faster than the planes of rival companies. We have developed a 1.4 mach jet from our turboprop aircraft Hürkuş in 5 years. With these works, we will have done to the MMU with a speed of 1.8 mach"

Engineer friends in TUSAŞ are laughing at this

 

[Zafer]

Engineer friends in TUSAŞ are laughing at this

Saying what?

Obviously they will make the engine only if their proposal is favored.
I bet Temel Kotil knows better.

 

[Hasanrize]

Ok, we might not get shit from RR I can understand.

But wtf is TRMotor? Why not give it to TEI, which is already developing engines for other platforms?

 

[Bogeyman]

Saying what?

Obviously they will make the engine only if their proposal is favored.
I bet Temel Kotil knows better.

They think that Temel Kotil does not want to stay in TAI for a long time.

 

[Huelague]

2028 can be expected to be the year Türkiye will get to 90% self reliance in technology, military and civilian.

What is the basis for such calculations?

 

[Manomed]

Saying what?

Obviously they will make the engine only if their proposal is favored.
I bet Temel Kotil knows better.

There is no way we can make a JET engine 6 years