So a variable cycle engine?
Seems to be a normal turbofan engine with fixed BP ratio.
Ok, we might not get shit from RR I can understand.
But wtf is TRMotor? Why not give it to TEI, which is already developing engines for other platforms?
Not a single person outside of Türkiye have thought that Turkish demands are realistic. Not a single company or country in the world would agree to develop something as advanced as a gas turbine and then just forgo of its IP control. It's just downright delusional to think that could work. There were only 2 real cases of a country transferring major in-service, let alone leading edge gas turbine related technology to a less developed country; both of them were rather special cases. When negotiations stalled a few years ago it was the same story; Turks believed it was solely due to Qatari involvement but the reality was both the Qatari involvement and Turkish terms, that demanded their partners to relinquish their IPs, were causing problems. It was then, it is now. So Turkish officials should choose to either receive significant RR input but stop demanding full IP rights or design bulk of the engine on their own without significant RR help.
I also have got questions to why the Turks are still bothering with this TR Motor scheme. It just looks downright unnecessary when there is a company as qualified and experienced as TEI. I mean, TR Motor is now also 100% owned by TUSAS so what's the point for TUSAS to own 2 separate gas turbine companies? I've heard TR Motor is only a design bureau but TEI seems to be just as qualified in designing a gas turbine as manufacturing one. I mean, they are the ones who've designed TF6000 and are manufacturing its prototype. The problem might be GE's 50% stake in the company, but GE's stake in TEI doesn't necessarily mean direct US control, nonetheless. Also, what is TR Motor actually doing nowadays? What's publicly known is that they are designing the turbofan for MMU, but RR's being tied with TAEC, not TR Motor. It's also the Turkish government that is pitching potential opportunities with RR not RR themselves. That means the Turkish government is funding and supporting a development of turbofan in TR Motor all the while inquiring and negotiating with RR so that they could potentially collaborate with a different company (TAEC/Kale)? That sounds ridiculous. In that case they should choose one of either TR Motor(keep things under TUSAS control) or TAEC(diversify industry participation) on who would work with RR.
I am all for a TRMotor developed domestic engine. It is also a matter of national pride to have such an engine other than being a matter of national security. It won't matter if a first iteration engine may not be satisfactory, we keep trying until we make it.
An unfinished first iteration would either : a. cripple MMU block 1, b. delay introduction of MMU by several years or c. force TuAF to acquire MMU with F110, which seems to be exactly what the Turks are trying to avoid.
We can do an improved copy of the F110 GE129
and drop a nuke on US-Türkiye relations in the process and eliminate most if not all the export opportunities for MMU. Even when there are sufficient manufacturing technology in hand, a developing gas turbine industry still has 3 problems in designing their own model. 1. they might lack experience in a clean sheet design and get lost 2. they have to circumvent existing patents and IPs 3. they have to become able to test and evaluate their own models. By copying F110 you are crossing the line of what could be done and what shouldn't in terms of number 2. There's a reason Turkish officials didn't choose that seemingly easier path and instead are trying their very best to design their own engine and find a foreign partner apart from the US.
Remember, the entire Turkish fighter jet and AEW&C fleet relies on US engines, avionics (except for Özgür in the future) and other component, just like other significant parts of Turkish military's backbone. Özgür itself is only possible because US provided source codes to Türkiye. Hürjet will fly with US F404 and MMU prototypes with F110. US can cripple Turkish military, especially TuAF quick and swift. When S-400 led to Turkish exclusion from the JSF, which you guys deeply despise, you wouldn't even want to imagine what will happen if theft of US IP, not any other IP but a gas turbine IP, is on the line.