TR Politics

dBSPL

Experienced member
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Ambassador
Messages
2,108
Reactions
86 10,941
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
The highlight of the 21 years AKP rule over Turkey. And the inflation, destroyed economy and devaluated currency is not even 5% of all their wrong doings in all those 21 years.

View attachment 55630
The XAU/USD parity (ounce of gold) was 300-320 dollars in 2002. In August 2011, the global price of gold climbed as high as 1920 dollars and then fell to 1050 dollars with the effect of quantitative easing. Gold investments had been loss-making for a decade during this period. This time, taking into account global risks, it looks like it will break the 2000 historical resistance.

In comparisons with gold, I think it is much more realistic to compare with the August/September 2011 period. The difference will show the extent to which TRY has devalued much more dramatically.

XAU/TRYG parity was around 105 liras in the third quarter of 2011. It is currently trading around 1215. And also there is a very high spread in banks that is not suitable for daily trading. In short, while gold has formed a cup in 12 years, in TRL terms it has only formed a very steep upward trend curve. After exceeding 250 liras in 2019, it has literally gone crazy.
 
Last edited:

dBSPL

Experienced member
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Ambassador
Messages
2,108
Reactions
86 10,941
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
For the CHP idiots who were saying that Erdogan became a slave to the Russian/Chinese axis

Actually, It is not an unfounded that some Eurasianists cadres have replaced some of the Atlanticist structures that were purged within the AKP start after 2015. Perinçek actually represent one step ahead of that point, and his direct involvement in the alliance may cause some allergies. So my guess is that Akp-Mhp strategy is based on the idea that in a scenario where KK and RTE go head to head, they will not choose KK. Because even though it is not ideal for them, there is the idea that they have dragged Erdoğan to a certain point, especially in foreign policies and some other areas. Whether the segment that Perinçek represents is more or less as of popular votes is another dimension.

However, especially in recent years, he has been indirectly, if not directly, instrumental in Akp's decision-making/U-turns on foreign affairs in order to broaden the ground for dialogues. Perinçek's views on NATO, Russia, Iran, and the Syrian issue etc are too extreme even for Erdoğan to openly accept them, but he seems to have opened maximum space for Eurasianist circles to work on these issues. They cant find that space in a government structure with vice presidents like Davutoğlu and Babacan. In fact, Davutoğlu himself has stated that the Eurasianists were the reason why they were purged from the AKP.
 
Last edited:

B_A

Contributor
Messages
1,027
Reactions
4 1,119
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
The highlight of the 21 years AKP rule over Turkey. And the inflation, destroyed economy and devaluated currency is not even 5% of all their wrong doings in all those 21 years.

View attachment 55630
what???

  • 2000 – US$1 = TL 620,000
  • 2001 – US$1 = TL 1,250,000
  • 2005 – US$1 = TL 1,350,000
 

begturan

Active member
Messages
69
Reactions
1 117
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Forget about economy guys it can be fixed eventually especially after natural gas supply starts...

me and my family was supporting CHP since our life but after the last i never gonna give vote about CHP, they destroyed what Mustafa Kemal done, they have nothing to do with this country, they cooperated with everyone who is an enemy of Turkiye especially with PKK and FETO. maldaroglu emptied party and filled it with terrorists... If they rule our country they will destroy it now we knows this reality... SO i m not going to vote about CHP anymore.... Main problem is there is not any realible opposite party in Turkiye, thats all.
 

AWP

Contributor
Messages
687
Reactions
4 1,403
Nation of residence
Canada
Nation of origin
Palestine
Is Turkish Hizbollah same as the Lebanese Hizbollah ? And what’s the point of having them in Turkey ?
 

begturan

Active member
Messages
69
Reactions
1 117
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Is Turkish Hizbollah same as the Lebanese Hizbollah ? And what’s the point of having them in Turkey ?

They are not same because they are Sunni not Shia, that Kurdish Hizbollah was fighting against Kurdish PKK at 90s but after 2000 they laid down arms and contunied as a political entity.
 

Sanchez

Experienced member
Moderator
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
1,810
Reactions
64 8,137
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Kurdish Hizbollah was fighting against Kurdish PKK
And the Turkish state.
after 2000 they laid down arms and contunied as a political entity.
Hardly. More like they were mostly blown up or jailed, who were then released by gülenists and AKP in early 2010s.
 

Fighter_35

Contributor
Messages
543
Reactions
1 739
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
They are not same because they are Sunni not Shia, that Kurdish Hizbollah was fighting against Kurdish PKK at 90s but after 2000 they laid down arms and contunied as a political entity.
Wow ,look at akpians , they try to legitimize Hizbullah!!
 

Fighter_35

Contributor
Messages
543
Reactions
1 739
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Forget about economy guys it can be fixed eventually especially after natural gas supply starts...

me and my family was supporting CHP since our life but after the last i never gonna give vote about CHP, they destroyed what Mustafa Kemal done, they have nothing to do with this country, they cooperated with everyone who is an enemy of Turkiye especially with PKK and FETO. maldaroglu emptied party and filled it with terrorists... If they rule our country they will destroy it now we knows this reality... SO i m not going to vote about CHP anymore.... Main problem is there is not any realible opposite party in Turkiye, thats all.
Don't lie, you are just another akpian. And economy is not the only problem we have. We have 13 million illegals which will have citizenships if akp wins again. So it is better for you to go tell this bullshits to akpians elsewhere. We don't eat them!!
 

begturan

Active member
Messages
69
Reactions
1 117
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Don't lie, you are just another akpian. And economy is not the only problem we have. We have 13 million illegals which will have citizenships if akp wins again. So it is better for you to go tell this bullshits to akpians elsewhere. We don't eat them!!

The Turkish opposition has come to this because of people like you, just continue like this...
 

Fighter_35

Contributor
Messages
543
Reactions
1 739
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
The Turkish opposition has come to this because of people like you, just continue like this...
Turkish opposition is far far better than you and your akp!! We will tell what kind of bullshits you are everywhere.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Rodeo

Contributor
Moderator
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
1,330
Reactions
31 5,067
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey

One of the Istanbul Ataköy voters lists… Full of Syrians who have been granted citizenship. This is only one town. Imagine the rest🤷🏻‍♂️
It's a fiasco. There are 23 individuals on that page who share the same last name. I don't have that many voters in my extended family. They're refugees, not immigrants. If their citizenships are not revoked, the unnatural shift in the electorate will have severe repercussions for the country.
 
Last edited:

Kedikesenfare

Well-known member
Messages
330
Reactions
1 797
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
It's a fiasco. There are 23 individuals on that page who share the same last name. I don't have that many voters in my extended family. They're refugees, not immigrants. If their citizenships are not revoked, the unnatural shift in the electorate will have severe repercussions for the country.
In Germany we have entire files full of voters with Turkish surnames. Guess what? We're millions and we still can't swing elections.

Don't get fooled by this propaganda. Millions of first-time-voters are going to cast their ballots. No amount of naturalisation can change the outcome.

On top of that, our society is getting older and older which translates into rising numbers of eligible voters for every election.



Just for the purpose of comparison:

64 million Turkish citizens are requested to take part in the upcoming elections.
 

Rodeo

Contributor
Moderator
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
1,330
Reactions
31 5,067
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
In Germany we have entire files full of voters with Turkish surnames. Guess what? We're millions and we still can't swing elections.

Don't get fooled by this propaganda. Millions of first-time-voters are going to cast their ballots. No amount of naturalisation can change the outcome.

On top of that, our society is getting older and older which translates into rising numbers of eligible voters for every election.



Just for the purpose of comparison:

64 million Turkish citizens are requested to take part in the upcoming elections.
It is perfectly valid to have concerns over millions of extra voters whose objectives are not aligned(presumably) with the country's interests. This is especially concerning considering the political climate in which the political parties with only 150k(HÜDAPAR's vote count in 2018) votes are put on pedestal.
 
Last edited:

Crush716

Committed member
Messages
187
Reactions
1 427
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
Turkey
In Germany we have entire files full of voters with Turkish surnames. Guess what? We're millions and we still can't swing elections.

Don't get fooled by this propaganda. Millions of first-time-voters are going to cast their ballots. No amount of naturalisation can change the outcome.

On top of that, our society is getting older and older which translates into rising numbers of eligible voters for every election.



Just for the purpose of comparison:

64 million Turkish citizens are requested to take part in the upcoming elections.
It’s not a propaganda it’s reality. If they can’t swing the out come.. how come refugees are giving citizenship to vote? Mind you these weren’t your average immigrants going through regular process and procedures to come to a country as a normal immigrant. This is unacceptable for a country like Turkiye. How low can we go?
 

Crush716

Committed member
Messages
187
Reactions
1 427
Nation of residence
United States of America
Nation of origin
Turkey
In Germany we have entire files full of voters with Turkish surnames. Guess what? We're millions and we still can't swing elections.
I’ll bet %99 percent of those millions went through the proper channels of process and couldn’t vote until they became citizens or permanent residents. I’m also certain that none of them bought a citizenship for 250K
 

Fighter_35

Contributor
Messages
543
Reactions
1 739
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
In Germany we have entire files full of voters with Turkish surnames. Guess what? We're millions and we still can't swing elections.

Don't get fooled by this propaganda. Millions of first-time-voters are going to cast their ballots. No amount of naturalisation can change the outcome.

On top of that, our society is getting older and older which translates into rising numbers of eligible voters for every election.



Just for the purpose of comparison:

64 million Turkish citizens are requested to take part in the upcoming elections.
First ,that Turks took their citizenship after long period if tines or they have been born there!! They did not take their citizenships through buying a house!! Only idiots give voting right to illegals . These are just the ones who bought house ,but there are millions of illegals who also took their citizenship!
Yes we are worried ,and your words mean nothing for us!
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom