Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1336802806095867905

Fincantieri is competing against OMT? I thought the Iver deal is slotted in our budget already.

I think he's talking about MHI, but as you know it's already being back by Opung himself.

 

[R4duga]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1336802806095867905

Fincantieri is competing against OMT? I thought the Iver deal is slotted in our budget already.

no it's against the 30ffm, DCNS , or either DAMEN , it's already reported in "The japan news" article which turn out to become a premium article now .

"Indonesia has also received a proposal from an Italian shipbuilding company and has indicated its intention to decide on a contractor after considering the price and the participation of domestic companies."

 

[JATOSINT]

Navy's Attach Helicopter will probably operate from Makassar-Class LPDs while the Anti-Sub helos operate from frigates/corvettes, right?

if so, with their current condition/status, I doubt that our LPDs have all facilities needed to effectively accommodate several attack helicopters in real combat situation (enough hangar space, ammunition storage, repair station, dedicated built-in fuel system, etc.)

CMIIW

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1286988419642449920

 

[l3onhard]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1336802806095867905

Fincantieri is competing against OMT? I thought the Iver deal is slotted in our budget already.

absolutely no, fincantieri will compete with japan's 30 ffm frigate. Iver tetep lanjut

 

[trishna_amrta]

The Italian can push whatever they want but I extremely doubt they could "nikung" 30FFM considering the political push do seem to came directly from JKW talk with Suga along with Nippon investment.

 

[Djketoprak]

I don't understand with our Navy road map, so what kind of vessel will replace Ahmad Yani class?? Iver or 30FFM or Italian Vessel??

 

[trishna_amrta]

I don't understand with our Navy road map, so what kind of vessel will replace Ahmad Yani class?? Iver or 30FFM or Italian Vessel??

I believe due to pressing circumstances at the North Natuna Sea, it's no longer about replacing the Van Speijk-class, but rather adding a more numerous & capable platform. It no longer matter whether it is Arrowhead 140, 30FFM, or whatever, as long it is available and battle ready.

 

[Chestnut]

I think it's important to note that we should realize that the 30FFM and the European FREMMs are more or less considered 'Destroyers' in terms of size and capability as they can perform both AAW and ASuW.

When you think of a traditional Frigate, you'd pretty much see ships such as the Martadinatas fit better into this role.

However, if the FREMM variant they're talking about is similar to the Egyptian/Morrocan version, then you can consider it somewhat as an up-gunned Martadinata. Which doesn't overlap in capability with the Iver and 30FFM.

 

[Anmdt]

up-gunned Martadinata

What?
Double the range, double the endurance, double+ the size, more space in hangar (for Italian version), VLS capable of AD missiles (up to 32), dual CIWS, towed sonar, yet it is just up-gunned sigma 104 which considered corvette (jumbo corvette) in some navies?
from that point of view, Ticonderoga is also up-gunned sigma 104.
If there is any small FREMM version, then it is my bad i don't know it.

 

[Parry Brima]

IIRC our MEF 2024 requires us to have 150-ish ships. That's the minimum. The ideal posture is 270-ish ships. Still plenty of room to add FREMM

 

[Chestnut]

What?
Double the range, double the endurance, double+ the size, more space in hangar (for Italian version), VLS capable of AD missiles (up to 32), dual CIWS, towed sonar, yet it is just up-gunned sigma 104 which considered corvette (jumbo corvette) in some navies?
from that point of view, Ticonderoga is also up-gunned sigma 104.
If there is any small FREMM version, then it is my bad i don't know it.

My mistake.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1337026627184705537

 

[Madokafc]

Alugoro

Credits to original owner

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1337163180938653696

He's salty
Also @Madokafc this is what you mean by naval system from US you were mentioning in Air Force thread right?

 

[Madokafc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1337163180938653696

He's salty
Also @Madokafc this is what you mean by naval system from US you were mentioning in Air Force thread right?

Well, that's why we should doing the honor to see how this will end up from back seat and a large cup of popcorn and many cans of beer

 

[Madokafc]

BTR 50 TNI AL, doing leisure swimming exercise

 

[Nilgiri]

Alugoro

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Which countries does Indonesia cooperate with to give extended training to submarine officers?

 

[JATOSINT]

The plan had been formed since early 2016, and in 2019 Cakrawala magazine had giving snippet about Table of Organization and roles Penerbal will be taking in near future, that's including acquisition of Attack Helicopters

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Quite confused here

So which one is the Navy's target for 2024/MEF? 100 aircraft or 160 aircraft?

 

[Madokafc]

Which countries does Indonesia cooperate with to give extended training to submarine officers?

Usually US and Germany

 

[trishna_amrta]

Quite confused here

So which one is the Navy's target for 2024/MEF? 100 aircraft or 160 aircraft?

Why does Navy need 100 or 160 aircraft?