Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

[Afif]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841589587522576467

@dBSPL @Sanchez

 

[Ryder]

I mean, how many Hez guys lost in those shootouts though, Scott? Funny you don't seem so interested in the side-by-side here, not that I guess Hezbollah's exactly going to put out press releases listing numbers of guys sent off to meet their virgins. I'm kinda figuring the body count's not something Hez shouldn't be touting as some victory, if they were to tally their own slain in the same engagements.

No serious person figured Israel wasn't going to lose people in a ground invasion. It'll be far more than 14 when the dust settles, what was it in '06, a hundred or so from memory? The country's ready and willing to do that in order to prevail, and bet your ass they're the ones who are going to be prevailing here. The ground invasions' needlessly dumb I feel, but they're going to come out on top in the end.

Insurgents or terrorist groups will always have heavy losses regardless because to them its all for the greater good even killing 1 soldier for them is a jackpot for them to utilise as propaganda. But for modern conventional armies the whole point is to minimise casualties the bigger the casualties the more demoralising it is.

USA despite winning battles they still occurred enormous casualties in Vietnam and the footages of bodybags was more than enough for the public to call it the quits and throw in the towel. Same story in Afghanistan.

 

[Saithan]

The X-band radar in Türkiye has most probably been used to relay information to Israel. So in a way it's working as intended. But I think it's important that we shut it down for as long as Israels campaign is continuing.

IMO it'd limit the brazen act of relentless airbombing, though some might argue why it wasn't shut down much earlier.

Are those missiles engages from Jordans soil or from Israel and Sea ?

 

[SilverMachine]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Israel does not have the capacity to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities.

We don't really know. Publically-available information, it would seem not, unless they get a re-supply of a bunch more U.S. bunker-busters and/or the MOAB type things it seems they don't have already. "Publically-available information" is kind of key though, every state has some secrets & aces up their sleeve. They don't acknowledge they're a nuclear power, I don't see why they'd have loose lips about whether or not they have capacity to hit underground stuff.

There's also Stuxnet type options, and that was years and years ago, you'd have to figure that program/research wasn't just put on ice and there's probably newer & more devastating versions of that stuff to work with.

I don't think they're gonna hit the nuclear sites, but wouldn't be at all surprised if they *could*. Whether that's oldschool with the boom-booms or something more surgical & sabotage-y. All-in all it's probably gonna be more "Joe Biden wants 'proportional'? Okay, 200 of our actually-capable missiles zoning in on whatever Guard bases are nearest Tehran" type of thing.

And Scott, wait, what? *Hezbollah* can afford to absorb losses but the IDF can't? I get your point about recruiting, that more low-level guys will take their place in time, that always happens. That neither means A) you don't bother killing them, or B) that the new guys are as effective/capable - training still takes time, and that's what these guys have been doing for years. The replacement guys never turn out to be as good, that goes for leadership as well. Al Qaeda still exists, Bin Laden's son's at the helm, and they're a nothing. The guy that's replacing Nasrallah in Hez is *no* Nasrallah and never will be. Nobody even talks about whoever took over ISIS/ISoI after al-Qurashi.

Hezbollah's also far smaller an organization than the IDF is. Your point about the vicious cycle of violence is absolutely on-point, but let's not pretend losing 14 guys, or even 1400, is going to break Israel's will or whatever. A lot of the public doesn't like Netanyahu, but they're all on the same page that Iran and their little brothers need to be dealt with.

 

[Afif]

We don't really know.

We do. Because it not about those weapons only. Israel doesn't have the platforms to deliver them. It would require strategic bombers. Israeli air force don't have them.

 

[SilverMachine]

Pretty sure larger fighter frames like the 15 can carry & deploy bunker-busters. Likely not the MOAB, but don't know enough about that one, but yeah, I guess if shit *really* kicks off and it gets existential for Israel the U.S. would work something out with them if that became necesssary - even delivering that larger one themselves to the target with a B2.

Frankly, there's probably other ways to shut down the program or delay it mucho-bigtime than simply atomizing the site, though. And it tends to be the exact type of shit the Israelis excel at, the unexpected.

 

[Scott Summers]

Hezbollah announces the destruction of 3 Merkava tanks in the town of Maroun al-Ras, southern Lebanon.

Meanwhile total media blackout in Israel. Its forbidden to mention Israeli KIA's.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841493076780437865

Capturing of a Mossad spy in Lebanon

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841488934821339386

 

[Scott Summers]

The oldest killed terrorist was 23 and the youngest babykiller was 17.

Netanyahu just sending young concripts to death. He will sacrifice everything to stay out the hands of the Israeli courts.

He would never send his son.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1841617041280651282

 

[SilverMachine]

Where do you get this nonsense? The IDF personnel losses are *all over* Israeli media. There's no "blackout" or "forbidden" nature of reporting it.

Also, again, there's an edit button, and you're chronically double & triple posting again.

 

[satria]

Al-Qassam Brigades broadcasts scenes from the battles with the occupation forces in Rafah