We'll pay 5.5 million € each for 26 torpedoes. Wonder if we'll ever learn Akya's unit cost. No way it doesn't cost more with the production numbers we'll have in the first decade. Self reliability is more expensive, something we're learning still.
Just wait until people hear what the cost of operation an aircraft carrier is going to be (on top of its design + construction) and how much Kaan's flights will cost
That is shortsightedness. What would we have done if we had no DM2A4 to furnish the Reis Class with?
Akya is in development for close to a decade if not more already, it was always the plan to have it replace our older torpedoes, and then DM2A4. We have much older torpedoes in service than the D4 that should be replaced beforehand. Much older SST4s were used in a SINKEX as late as 2018, As far as I know, Tigerfish should still also be in use. I don't think the plan was ever to replace all of them together.
I just want to see an USV that can travel just under the surface, except for antennas/cameras/whatever etc, and carry 2/4 Orkas, is that too much to ask?
@Sanchez is right, Reis Class does not come with the Akya capability right away and needs a rework (on the component level) for integration & testing (qualification in a nutshell). For the time being AKYA production rates are no match to keep up with the stock (old torpedoes are either modernized or spent in exercises, or decommissioned).
Didnt we buy the 6 U214's all inclusive?The whole purpose of Akya torpedo was to replace the ageing DM2A4 (Seahake) torpedoes. So why are we still trying to buy these from Germany?
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According to Naval News Akya already proved itself by sinking it’s target in a test firing in December 2023.
After this test with the real warhead, AKYA HWT achieved initial operational capability.
It is confusing that we are still after a foreign weapon that we and most of our adversaries know the details of .
SINKEX: Turkiye's first indigenous heavyweight torpedo AKYA sinks target at live test - Naval News
On Dec. 27, 2023, the Turkish Navy successfully carried out the first live firing test of the AKYA HWT with a real warhead in the East Med.www.navalnews.com
Yeah cost much more...Why should we throw away the ready and good system we have?
What kind of a logic is this? Honestly, do you guys really pay no real attention to process behind these things and just assume as soon as a name is mentioned we can use them? They are being developed *right now*, do you expect us to install them tomorrow?
Just don't let yourself be poisoned by certain low-level defence industry media or individuals posting in Twitter in TR. Especially those that use a lot of "!!!".
Unlike the Virginia Class boats' 4, 214s have 8 tubes and can carry 10 to 14 spares as far as I can remember. For Virginia, it's 25+. For Americans, using LWTs they can reload faster could be advantageous, but less so for us.
So you want to use Akya for anything you encounter in Agean and Mediteranian to cost of Somalia? the idea is not only about quantity of tubes or how fast you reload them but more about the fact that heavyweight torpedoes are not always the best choice for every and each military engagement .... diversify your armament .... at least this is what US is planing to do in Pasific and there are things we can take from this approach and in fact most probably we will implement it may be even befor US
For the kinds of targets a submarine is tasked to eliminate, yes. Most if not all LWTs are not anti ship weapons but anti submarine weapons and they are employed aboard ASW ships, ASW helicopters and MPAs, not submarines. Submarines also employ HWTs to engage other submarines, not LWTs. LWTs are defensive weapons to defend against submarines with much shorter range and warhead. HWTs are pure attack weapons to attack shipping, enemy ships and other submarines.
