TR Propulsion Systems

[Nilgiri]

As you guys have pointed out this is why I consider Hürjet trainer to be of utmost importance over KAAN atm. Because our so called allies would probably not mind selling us 90 engines for trainer jets.

So if we later on, after building them all, should have the need to convert them to LCA (light combat aircraft) and we can do that with minimal work, then we can still fly and wipe our arses, even if just barely.

But like I said earlier, making the LCA, and then asking for senate permission to buy trainer jet engine is going to be much more difficult.

Yes 3-4 years ago I mention that kind of thing many times, here's one instance:

It is why I personally follow Hurjet project lot closer. The timelines are sooner, more things matured/maturing quicker for it.... and it will illustrate the ecosystem maturity to take forward with TFX.

i.e we will see good proof one way or another (of everything you mention having to come together) in timeframe some are getting into (somewhat unnecessary tone) debate about.

There is no need to overly-praise or overly-diminish a solid project that is in the flow of things right now (that we cannot judge in some close-up microsystem way).

Results simply can be monitored and followed and compared with the debate preceding it....there should be no rush to produce judgement in this juncture from relatively casual observers + enthusiasts.

As you can sense and find all the issues lot quicker with smaller aircraft (both internally and with outside suppliers) that still ticks the important boxes (jet propulsion, avionics, LCA weapons capability)..... a more nimble project that can pump out a quicker production run ASAP too.

Any issues surfacing there gives early detection of same issues with TFX later and it buys you some time to think and develop solutions for that, rather than get shortchanged and stuck later.

 

[Strong AI]

Strategic Cooperation from TRMOTOR and TASECS

We signed a strategic cooperation agreement with TASECS to develop the ATS (Air Turbine Starter) Control Valve, one of the critical products of our defense industry, with domestic engineering and national resources.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863917941504278657

 

[Sanchez]

New (larger?) engine project by Kale, named Biga. Signed with SSB this year.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867173360721104938

 

[Strong AI]

New (larger?) engine project by Kale, named Biga. Signed with SSB this year.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867173360721104938

And it looks like it will be Turbojet, because in the last sentence it states "ARATJET, BIGAJET".

 

[Sanchez]

And it looks like it will be Turbojet, because in the last sentence it states "ARATJET, BIGAJET".

Turbofans are jets too

 

[Strong AI]

Turbofans are jets too

My thought was that ARAT is a Turbojet and they use ARATJET, so BiGAJET will be Turbojet too. But yeah you could be right too.

 

[Anmdt]

Turbofans are jets too

I am certain that Gezgin won't have a single version/block, Turbofan version will exist for Navy and BiGA should be the turbofan.

B i G A, what this could be ? Can't relate to anything but a small province in Marmara region. Should be something within the initials Bi and G + A. Or simply "Big Arat?"

 

[TheInsider]

Production plan/projection of Kale Jet engines.
Blue: Guided munitions(KGK kit, no engine)
White: Stand-off missiles (engine)
Beige: Anti-ship missiles (engine)

A production rate of over 9000 engines per year will be reached by 2032.
Kale plans to produce over 1000 engines(probably close to 1500) in 2025. (stand-off+anti-ship)
Note that Kale alone produced over 2000 KGK kits in 2023. Now we have other companies that produce guidance kits too. We have a huge production capacity.

Kale is developing Aratjet, Bigajet, and a variant of KTJ-1750 for drones. The KTJ-3200 variant for SOM is named KTJ-3200S, and the Atmaca variant is named KTJ-3200A there are also other variants for different projects.

You can read from page 65 unfortunately it is in Turkish.

https://kalejetengines.com/uploads/a071fb54-4b5b-42fd-ae5e-d3bbeafb376b.pdf