Live Conflict Syria Civil War

[Azareen]

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The next urgent need is to get the government recognised in the UN, and sign a defense pact with Turkey.

 

[Shtr]

I can not understand this deal at all.

 

[begturan]

Is it true or fake news ? there is no sign about it anywhere.

 

[Huelague]

There is an unconfirmed deal circulating the internet between HTS and SDF, the major thing is giving the Syrian Kurds a self-governing state like Iraq's Kurdistan, also dismantling PKK.

I won’t share the drafted deal until it’s official.

Worse case.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Just out interest does anyone know the exact Turkmen population of Syria?

 

[Iskander]

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emotions always make everything not propotional. you can read my statement not only for russian case, its in general, for russian which we can assure after these will be vanish fron syrian land, with all of its influences.

Indonesian already faces all of this stituations regarding dutch colonialism, japan occupations, with all tragedy in it. we also had trouble for forgiving, for those two countries have done, almost 30 years we spent to make those forgiveness feeling came and becoming our new ways to create relation with those countries.

But you should remember, what happen in syria its the exacly happen in indonesia before, Assad = Soeharto in indonesia. the hard think that indonesian must face not struggle for independence but what happen in end of 90ties, our countries almost broke in to pieces, become second balkan tragedy. But with the consideration that forgiving is the best way to move forward. we can solve a very hard horizontal conflict between ethnic, etc, even we can solve aceh case that haunting us for over 35 years. now you can see what happen to Indonesia, in 20 years we comeback, becoming one of 20 biggest economy in the world with all of problems in it. can focus to develop our own country. I 100 % aggree with jolani and erdogan, that syria belong to syrian people, and must solve all of his problems by syrian people only, that include all of the tribes in it. weapons do not solve problems.

You generously forgave Holland and Japan after (!) a decade of aggression and occupation, but not during the occupation. Forgiving an enemy during aggression is not generosity, it is called something else. Holland and Japan have not engaged in militaristic propaganda for a long time, do not wage aggressive wars, do not threaten their neighbors and Indonesia. Therefore, they can be forgiven. As for Russia, unfortunately, we do not see this. We want the Russian authorities to stop feeding their people with militaristic propaganda, not to threaten neighboring countries, so that they stop these terrible wars and deal with their internal problems. After all, no one threatens Russia.
200 years ago, Russia occupied my country and divided it into 2 parts.
We have been an independent state for 33 years. During these years, we have not demanded anything from Russia. No compensation, nothing. Our only desire and the desire of all Russia's neighbors is for it to leave us alone.

 

[dBSPL]

There is a serious psychological warfare on social media. Pkk terrorists are pressing every button. Do not rely on undocumented infos that is not official.

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Raqqa United Administrative Council announced its establishment and announced the launch of operations to “cleanse Raqqa from PKK/YPG terrorists”.

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[dBSPL]

Just out interest does anyone know the exact Turkmen population of Syria?

It is estimated to number around 3 million (2000-2010 estimates) and is the largest segment after the Sunni Arabs. However, since the Baathist regime ignored the Turkmen presence, they were 'mostly' seen as part of the Arab population, so it is difficult to say the exact population. Estimates are based on towns and cities with dense Turkmen settlements and historical tribes. Some Turkmen people do not speak Turkish and have been subjected to heavy assimilation policies for several generations, yet they have never rebelled against the state in Syrian history. Turkmens took up arms once, and they overthrew the Baath regime that time. (In sum, despite all the challenges, Syrian Turkmens are more successful in preserving their cultural heritage than Lebanese and Palestinian Turkmens or from Egypt's Turks.)

 

[GoatsMilk]

It is estimated to number around 3 million (2000-2010 estimates) and is the largest segment after the Sunni Arabs. However, since the Baathist regime ignored the Turkmen presence, they were 'mostly' seen as part of the Arab Sunni population, so it is difficult to say the exact population. Estimates are based on towns and cities with dense Turkmen settlements and historical tribes. Some Turkmen people do not speak Turkish and have been subjected to heavy assimilation policies for several generations, yet they have never rebelled against the state in Syrian history. Turkmens took up arms once, and they overthrew the Baath regime that time. (In sum, despite all the challenges, Syrian Turkmens are more successful in preserving their cultural heritage than Lebanese and Palestinian Turkmens or from Egypt's Turks.)

So the Turkmen population is bigger then the collective Kurdish population in syria. In the entire civil war we've not heard one word about them from the entire anglo-american aligned media. A similar thing takes place concerning the Turks of Iran.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

So the Turkmen population is bigger then the collective Kurdish population in syria. In the entire civil war we've not heard one word about them from the entire anglo-american aligned media. A similar thing takes place concerning the Turks of Iran.

The last thing they want is Turkmen independence. Just imagine if they were independent in both Syria and Iraq... It would essentially encircle Iran's Turkic population areas and they would be next to gain independence. From there a bridge to central asia would be inevitable. The world would wake up to a unified Turkic entity that would challenge the current order. Neither China, Russia nor the west wants this. Neither do their allies.

I also want to add that there's been a recent push to secularize Iran. This isn't in our interests, essentially it means that the west is ready to strengthen and support them when the time comes. This way they can act as a bulwark against Turkic expansion. I guess you could say they want to form a second, much larger and much more organized version of the SDF. All against Turkish and Turkic interests.

 

[Ryder]

So the Turkmen population is bigger then the collective Kurdish population in syria. In the entire civil war we've not heard one word about them from the entire anglo-american aligned media. A similar thing takes place concerning the Turks of Iran.

To be honest Syrian Turkmens were called terrorists and Jihadists by both Russian and Western Media.

Whole world easily called them terrorists despite Syrian Turkmens were only fighting for their lands, dignity, their religion, their honour, their identity and their culture against the onlaught of Assad, Russia, Iran, Pkk and Isis.

Still Western media easily parroted Russian propaganda against Syrian Turkmens.

 

[Ryder]

It is estimated to number around 3 million (2000-2010 estimates) and is the largest segment after the Sunni Arabs. However, since the Baathist regime ignored the Turkmen presence, they were 'mostly' seen as part of the Arab population, so it is difficult to say the exact population. Estimates are based on towns and cities with dense Turkmen settlements and historical tribes. Some Turkmen people do not speak Turkish and have been subjected to heavy assimilation policies for several generations, yet they have never rebelled against the state in Syrian history. Turkmens took up arms once, and they overthrew the Baath regime that time. (In sum, despite all the challenges, Syrian Turkmens are more successful in preserving their cultural heritage than Lebanese and Palestinian Turkmens or from Egypt's Turks.)

Syrian Turkmens and the Iraqi Turkmens are both heirs of the Seljuks and the Ottomans.

Turks of Turkiye have a really close kinship with them. We see them as extensions of our peoples.

This includes Azerbaijan due to the whole heritage of Oghuz Turks.

 

[Strong AI]

The YPG/PKK terrorist organization broke the ceasefire at the Tishrin Dam. Looks like it won't even take four hours.

The Syrian National Army rescued the Tishrin Dam on the Euphrates River from the terrorist organization PKK/YPG.

Suriye Milli Ordusu, Fırat Nehri üzerindeki Tişrin Barajı'nı terör örgütü PKK/YPG'den kurtardı

Suriye Milli Ordusunun (SMO) başlattığı Özgürlük Şafağı Operasyonu kapsamında, özellikle doğu kesimde yer alan illerin su ve elektrik kaynağının büyük bölümünü sağlayan Tişrin Barajı'nı, terör örgütü PKK/YPG'nin işgalinden kurtardı. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

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Druze villages near the border:

 

[Lool]

Pkk/ypg is killing civilians

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867555551032271010

 

[Dennixtoue]

Russia says in contact with militants to keep military bases in Syria​

Friday, 13 December 2024 10:16 AM [ Last Update: Friday, 13 December 2024 10:34 AM ]

Two Russian Sukhoi Su-24 bombers at the Russian Hmeimim military base in Latakia province, in the northwest of Syria, on December 16, 2015. (Photo by AFP)

Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov says Russia has established direct contacts with the Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) in a bid to maintain its military bases in the Arab country despite the fall of the Syrian government.
Russia hopes to keep its military bases in Syria as they are important in the fight against terrorism, Bogdanov said, Interfax news agency reported on Friday.
The senior Russian diplomat noted that contacts with HTS were “proceeding in constructive fashion.”
Russia, Bogdanov said, hopes the group would fulfill its pledges to “guard against all excesses”, maintain order and ensure the safety of diplomats and other foreigners.

Russia condemns Israel's 'destabilizing' strikes in Syria
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has condemned in the strongest terms Israel’s strikes on Syria and the creation of a “buffer zone” along the occupied Golan Heights.
Moscow, he said, aims to maintain its two military bases in Syria – a naval base in Tartus city on the Mediterranean coast and Hmeimim Air Base southeast of the port city of Latakia – to continue “fighting international terrorism.”
“The bases are still there, where they were on Syrian territory. No other decisions have been made for the moment,” Bogdanov was quoted as saying.
“They were there at the Syrians’ request with the aim of fighting terrorists from Daesh. I am proceeding on the basis of the notion that everyone agrees that the fight against terrorism, and what remains of Daesh, is not over.”
Maintaining the fight, he said, “requires collective efforts and, in this connection, our presence and the Hmeimim base played an important role in the context of the overall fight against international terrorism.”
Militants launched a surprise two-pronged attack on Syria’s northwestern city of Aleppo and the countryside around Idlib on November 27. They marched southward to seize control of several major cities, including Hama, Homs, Dara’a, and Suwayda, before entering and capturing the capital Damascus early on December 8, unseating the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

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Russia says in contact with militants to keep military bases in Syria

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov says Moscow has established direct contacts with the ruling Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham group in Syria, and hopes to maintain its military bases in the Arab country.

www.presstv.ir

www.presstv.co.uk

 

[dBSPL]

Russia says in contact with militants to keep military bases in Syria​

Friday, 13 December 2024 10:16 AM [ Last Update: Friday, 13 December 2024 10:34 AM ]

Two Russian Sukhoi Su-24 bombers at the Russian Hmeimim military base in Latakia province, in the northwest of Syria, on December 16, 2015. (Photo by AFP)

Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov says Russia has established direct contacts with the Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) in a bid to maintain its military bases in the Arab country despite the fall of the Syrian government.
Russia hopes to keep its military bases in Syria as they are important in the fight against terrorism, Bogdanov said, Interfax news agency reported on Friday.
The senior Russian diplomat noted that contacts with HTS were “proceeding in constructive fashion.”
Russia, Bogdanov said, hopes the group would fulfill its pledges to “guard against all excesses”, maintain order and ensure the safety of diplomats and other foreigners.

Russia condemns Israel's 'destabilizing' strikes in Syria
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has condemned in the strongest terms Israel’s strikes on Syria and the creation of a “buffer zone” along the occupied Golan Heights.
Moscow, he said, aims to maintain its two military bases in Syria – a naval base in Tartus city on the Mediterranean coast and Hmeimim Air Base southeast of the port city of Latakia – to continue “fighting international terrorism.”
“The bases are still there, where they were on Syrian territory. No other decisions have been made for the moment,” Bogdanov was quoted as saying.
“They were there at the Syrians’ request with the aim of fighting terrorists from Daesh. I am proceeding on the basis of the notion that everyone agrees that the fight against terrorism, and what remains of Daesh, is not over.”
Maintaining the fight, he said, “requires collective efforts and, in this connection, our presence and the Hmeimim base played an important role in the context of the overall fight against international terrorism.”
Militants launched a surprise two-pronged attack on Syria’s northwestern city of Aleppo and the countryside around Idlib on November 27. They marched southward to seize control of several major cities, including Hama, Homs, Dara’a, and Suwayda, before entering and capturing the capital Damascus early on December 8, unseating the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

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Russia says in contact with militants to keep military bases in Syria

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov says Moscow has established direct contacts with the ruling Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham group in Syria, and hopes to maintain its military bases in the Arab country.

www.presstv.ir

www.presstv.co.uk

The interim government is making a big mistake. No, the Russians will stay in their bases and watch the Israeli aggression, as they have not interfered before. If the Russians maintain the same privileges, the Tartus base will allow Russia to continue its covert operations inside Syria, where some paramilitary organizations will continue to transport mercenaries and weapons to Africa, over Syria.

They could have made the military bases available only for joint use by a group of countries willing to support Syria, such as the 'Friends of Syria', or better yet, they could have been made available to a 'temporary' UN peacekeeping force until the Syrian state builds up its air force and navy. Keeping these bases completely inactive and maintaining the Russian presence in them will not make a daramtic difference in terms of Israeli aggression, but will be the kiss of life to keep Russia's ambitions in Syria alive. I would go further and say that this nonsense idea is most likely mediated by the Turkish side.

 

[dBSPL]

Another facility, this time near Damascus one of the Hezbullah-Assadists Captagon production center

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867545121585090621

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1867545294470099132

While these were being loaded from Syrian ports and piers and exiting Syrian territorial waters, was it possible that Russia was unaware of all this trade worth tens of billions? No, it was not. And I remember very well how the Russian propaganda machine was working in those years that they were mostly conducting vile slander campaigns against Turkiye, even after Astana. Maybe they were funding many Russian-backed influence agents in TR with this dirty money, who knows...

 

[Saithan]

The interim government is making a big mistake. No, the Russians will stay in their bases and watch the Israeli aggression, as they have not interfered before. If the Russians maintain the same privileges, the Tartus base will allow Russia to continue its covert operations inside Syria, where some paramilitary organizations will continue to transport mercenaries and weapons to Africa, over Syria.

They could have made the military bases available only for joint use by a group of countries willing to support Syria, such as the 'Friends of Syria', or better yet, they could have been made available to a 'temporary' UN peacekeeping force until the Syrian state builds up its air force and navy. Keeping these bases completely inactive and maintaining the Russian presence in them will not make a daramtic difference in terms of Israeli aggression, but will be the kiss of life to keep Russia's ambitions in Syria alive. I would go further and say that this nonsense idea is most likely mediated by the Turkish side.

Unless the base is manned by SNA and crew as well. It would be a mistake to let Russia manage two bases. If Russia accepts patroling southern Syria airspace and keep Israel away. That could work. Remember Russia has no obligation to Syria once Assad turned tail and ran away. HTS should have made an announcement once they marched to homs that let Russia know the future potential if they stay neutral or protect the airspace. Instead Russia bailed and Israel bombed all SAM and AD sites. Loss of such potential.

 

[Saithan]

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