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Yeah every secular was FETÖ . Every pro-islamist was against FETÖ.

Outrageous, shameless.
I could say the exact opposite. The heart of the state is the National Intelligence Organization (MİT). And MİT has been able to reach this point thanks to Erdoğan.

Erdoğan puts candidates through MİT scrutiny during the selection process for parliamentary candidates. Can you imagine the same for the CHP or other opposition parties?
 

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Yeah every secular was FETÖ . Every pro-islamist was against FETÖ.

Outrageous, shameless.
Bro I don't think he realizes he's engaging in propaganda in the wrong place. I advise you not to respond. He spends most of his day here churning out propaganda.
 

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Ohh. You guys are funny. I am not judging. I am truely mesmerized by the fact that you guys belive this shit. Everyone is feto except akp right. This is from gezi. It is easy to call everyone feto today. We stood against those fu.kers called what they were in 2013. Where the fck were you then. I remember that all akp was celebrating turkish olympics . Now you think you can call me feto. No mate. No. If you have supported akp in any way you cant say anything about feto. Even you deny that you guys are enemies. I remember that you guys were together and destroyed thousands of people's life TOGETHER .
 

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What were the force commanders doing while so many FETÖ members were infiltrating the Turkish Armed Forces?

The then Head of Military Intelligence, İsmail Hakkı Pekin, explains:

"At the 2007 Military Supreme Military Council meeting, we read the report on students wearing headscarves in middle schools.

Erdoğan insulted us."

It's clear who's treating people like fools. The Turkish Armed Forces never, ever fought against FETÖ before Erdoğan "seized control of the state." They fought against religious people, not FETÖ agents.

This level of shamelessness has reached the heavens. Before Erdoğan instigated conflict between the two groups, they were on very friendly terms. But they thought that once a black cat came between them, their past actions would be forgotten.
 

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Did someone read the party program of yeni parti? This account made comments on it. Can someone confirm this?

1.🔴All of the following matters included in this program;
➡️have been brought to the agenda in the Commission established in the TBMM.❗️
➡️are the DEM/ Öcalan and Kandil's DEMANDS.❗️


 
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Did someone read the party program of yeni parti? This account made comments on it. Can someone confirm this?

1.🔴All of the following matters included in this program;
➡️have been brought to the agenda in the Commission established in the TBMM.❗️
➡️are the DEM/ Öcalan and Kandil's DEMANDS.❗️


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On page 12 of the Party Program, it is stipulated that the European Charter of Local Self-Government, a demand of the PKK, DEM, and Öcalan, will be fully implemented.

Ekrem İmamoğlu's puppets will help the PKK establish a state.

My opposition friends, this is the party you want to put in charge of the country.
 

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On page 12 of the Party Program, it is stipulated that the European Charter of Local Self-Government, a demand of the PKK, DEM, and Öcalan, will be fully implemented.

How about you do a bit of research before you post lies. This was signed decades ago and is still supported by the current government and a number of nationalist parties with certain reservations.

"Turkey signed the European Charter of Local Self-Government in 1988 while placing reservations (declarations) on specific articles. President Erdoğan and AK Party governments have opposed criticisms that these reservations would open the door to federation or separatism, arguing that the regulations strictly concern administrative and financial functioning.

Key Articles and Reservations

Article 2 (Constitutional and Legal Foundation): Local self-government must be guaranteed by the constitution or statute (Turkey accepted this
article).

Article 3 (Concept of Local Self-Government): The right of local authorities to regulate and manage a substantial share of public affairs.

Article 4 (Scope of Competence): Local powers should normally be exercised by authorities closest to the citizens.

Reserved Areas: Turkey placed reservations on specific paragraphs regarding the financial audit of local authorities, their right to cooperate with foreign counterparts, and decentralisation limits, citing concerns over preserving the central administration's integrity."
 

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Imagine they didn't tolerate epstein to live but pedophile baby murdering terrorist ocalan gets to see his days out and still give instructions to the pkk/dem
 

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On page 12 of the Party Program, it is stipulated that the European Charter of Local Self-Government, a demand of the PKK, DEM, and Öcalan, will be fully implemented.

Ekrem İmamoğlu's puppets will help the PKK establish a state.

My opposition friends, this is the party you want to put in charge of the country.

"Turkey signed the European Charter of Local Self-Government in 1988 while placing reservations (declarations) on specific articles. President Erdoğan and AK Party governments have opposed criticisms that these reservations would open the door to federation or separatism, arguing that the regulations strictly concern administrative and financial functioning.


Reserved Areas: Turkey placed reservations on specific paragraphs regarding the financial audit of local authorities, their right to cooperate with foreign counterparts, and decentralisation limits, citing concerns over preserving the central administration's integrity."
When you interpret the issue in such a biased way, you end up making irrelevant comments like this.

First, carefully read what Erdoğan objected to.
Then, look at the phrase in the image I posted: "The European Charter of Local Self-Government will be fully implemented." Understand that this is actually Erdoğan's objection, "we will not leave the PKK's espionage activities in municipalities unchecked," and Özgür Özel is saying that if they come to power, they will fully support the PKK.

However, Özgür Özel didn't stop there when he said they would take them under the protection of the state.

- The legal protections of elected mayors will be strengthened.
- The removal of elected local administrators from office without a final court decision will not be allowed.
- The practice of appointing trustees will be ended.
- Municipal councils and city councils will be strengthened.
- Participatory budgeting, citizen juries, neighborhood councils, and local advisory mechanisms will be widespread.

Before the trench operations began, the HDP, with its mayors and provincial and district organizations, had ensured the PKK's neighborhood-by-neighborhood organization.

Özgür Özel openly states that they will provide legal protection to HDP mayors to facilitate the PKK's establishment of a Kurdistan in the East. Furthermore, he declares that they will enable the HDP to organize with the PKK on the ground, neighborhood by neighborhood.

Despite this, you still support the Ekrem İmamoğlu-Özgür Özel faction. These people have openly included their plans to divide this nation in their party program.

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When you interpret the issue in such a biased way, you end up making irrelevant comments like this.

First, carefully read what Erdoğan objected to.
Then, look at the phrase in the image I posted: "The European Charter of Local Self-Government will be fully implemented." Understand that this is actually Erdoğan's objection, "we will not leave the PKK's espionage activities in municipalities unchecked," and Özgür Özel is saying that if they come to power, they will fully support the PKK.

However, Özgür Özel didn't stop there when he said they would take them under the protection of the state.

- The legal protections of elected mayors will be strengthened.
- The removal of elected local administrators from office without a final court decision will not be allowed.
- The practice of appointing trustees will be ended.
- Municipal councils and city councils will be strengthened.
- Participatory budgeting, citizen juries, neighborhood councils, and local advisory mechanisms will be widespread.

Before the trench operations began, the HDP, with its mayors and provincial and district organizations, had ensured the PKK's neighborhood-by-neighborhood organization.

Özgür Özel openly states that they will provide legal protection to HDP mayors to facilitate the PKK's establishment of a Kurdistan in the East. Furthermore, he declares that they will enable the HDP to organize with the PKK on the ground, neighborhood by neighborhood.

Despite this, you still support the Ekrem İmamoğlu-Özgür Özel faction. These people have openly included their plans to divide this nation in their party program.

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Almost every day, compliments hailing the terrorist organization and its vile leader as a "founding leader" are being voiced. His poster is displayed in Turkey's largest metropolis, and announcements are made that special laws will be enacted for the organization's militants. And yet, here you are, still talking about the opposition establishing a terror state?

You really need to get psychological support. Your political ideology is preventing you from thinking rationally😒
 

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Almost every day, compliments hailing the terrorist organization and its vile leader as a "founding leader" are being voiced. His poster is displayed in Turkey's largest metropolis, and announcements are made that special laws will be enacted for the organization's militants. And yet, here you are, still talking about the opposition establishing a terror state?

You really need to get psychological support. Your political ideology is preventing you from thinking rationally😒
Oh, so some people are bothered by the new party's program being publicized.

While Erdoğan wants the PKK to lay down its arms and for this to be confirmed by the National Intelligence Organization (MİT) during the peace process, these people are openly saying that the PKK doesn't need to lay down its arms.

Meanwhile, let me also write my personal opinion.
The PKK will never lay down its arms. If they don't lay down their arms, this process will not continue.
 

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Oh, so some people are bothered by the new party's program being publicized.

While Erdoğan wants the PKK to lay down its arms and for this to be confirmed by the National Intelligence Organization (MİT) during the peace process, these people are openly saying that the PKK doesn't need to lay down its arms.

Meanwhile, let me also write my personal opinion.
The PKK will never lay down its arms. If they don't lay down their arms, this process will not continue.
I think you assume everyone is a political party militant like yourself. I don't care about any politicians. But we're not fools either; we're not blind to the efforts politicians make for their own self interest. We can see who expects anything from the pkk terrorist organization. I grew up among Kurds for 34 years , and believe me, they are not at all pro Erdogan and are eagerly awaiting the election, you can be sure of that.
 

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I think you assume everyone is a political party militant like yourself. I don't care about any politicians. But we're not fools either; we're not blind to the efforts politicians make for their own self interest. We can see who expects anything from the pkk terrorist organization. I grew up among Kurds for 34 years , and believe me, they are not at all pro Erdogan and are eagerly awaiting the election, you can be sure of that.


You grew up among Kurds for 34 years, but you forgot that every mayor elected since 2015 has been removed from office in some way after the elections.

You grew up among them for 34 years, but you forgot that those who were traitors among the Kurds always ran in elections in partnership with opposition parties before Erdoğan.

You know that if this process fails, Erdoğan will remove those mayors from office, but you don't care.

You also know how close Özgür Özel is to the PKK, but you don't care about that either.
While this process continues, the YPG has completely lost hope of establishing a state in Syria.

Before this process, the PKK became unable to breathe in Northern Iraq. And you know that they have given up hope on us. You also know that the Turkish military presence there will not be withdrawn with a statement from the PKK.
But you don't care about any of this.
 
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