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I kinda wonder what kind of prestige they can get by importing Soap boxes like armored cars from unheard company like Panu or whatsoever their name is?
It is imported from some far away place right❓ Then it is exotic / luxury goods. Same thing when someone imported his mistress from poor Eastern Europe, it will still come as an exotic / luxury goods eech sorry I mean person.
 

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It is imported from some far away place right❓ Then it is exotic / luxury goods. Same thing when someone imported his mistress from poor Eastern Europe, it will still come as an exotic / luxury goods eech sorry I mean person.

Don't know, sometimes Local can be better than imported ones, just look at RE local stuff like Julie Estelle, Yuki Kato, Moremans and the likes they are not fall short from the imported stuff.
 

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Don't know, sometimes Local can be better than imported ones, just look at RE local stuff like Julie Estelle, Yuki Kato, Moremans and the likes they are not fall short from the imported stuff.
You know I once came out technical solution that only worth Rp 1.500.000 using parts bought in pasar (electronic spare parts on the upper floor, wet market at the ground floor kind), that vastly outperform & far more reliable than a US$ 2500 Made in USA equipment. And nobody wants to use my solution, even after being presented all the raw data & evidence😞 Another example is when I use Rp 250.000 + "kemenyan & jampi2x" to outperform nearly US$ 1000 worth of European made equipments, and still nobody wants to use my solutions 😞
 

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I kinda wonder what kind of prestige they can get by importing Soap boxes like armored cars from unheard company like Panu or whatsoever their name is?

If they are importing something in the same class of vehicles like Amir Gaia or Plasan Sandcat in which had reputable battle record and coming from major company from Israel in which had reputation as battle hardened country i am still get it for what they are trying to get. But this one, i can only sigh
Hate to be the messenger here ...but , not everybody was equally as informed as we do . Hell , even some of us here still buying the " karya bangsa " fully ...
Don't know, sometimes Local can be better than imported ones, just look at RE local stuff like Julie Estelle, Yuki Kato, Moremans and the likes they are not fall short from the imported stuff.

Damn , you all are killing me here ... 😂😂

You know I once came out technical solution that only worth Rp 1.500.000 using parts bought in pasar (electronic spare parts on the upper floor, wet market at the ground floor kind), that vastly outperform & far more reliable than a US$ 2500 Made in USA equipment. And nobody wants to use my solution, even after being presented all the raw data & evidence😞 Another example is when I use Rp 250.000 + "kemenyan & jampi2x" to outperform nearly US$ 1000 worth of European made equipments, and still nobody wants to use my solutions 😞

Wellcome to the fool blinded brands addict nation brothas ...

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BPPT Assisted in Floating Engineering for N219 Amphibious Aircraft
The Agency for the Assessment and Application of Technology (BPPT) assists in engineering for floats on the amphibious variant of the N219 aircraft, which is one of BPPT's priority programs in 2021.

"We did design and engineering for the floater for landers in the water," said BPPT's Deputy for Industrial Technology, Design and Engineering (TIRBR), Wahyu Widodo Pandoe, in a press conference for BPPT 2021 Outlook and BPPT 2020 Achievements, Jakarta, Thursday, 21/1/2021, released by Antara.
The amphibious N219 aircraft is one of the 2020-2024 National Research Priorities (PRN). The research priorities are coordinated by the National Institute of Aeronautics and Space.

Regarding the development of the aircraft, BPPT has a role to provide assistance to the Lapan research priority program.
In addition, BPPT will also assist in the search for potential landing sites for the aircraft in Indonesia.

"We are also helping to find ideal locations for landings in Indonesian waters," he said.

Previously, Head of the National Aeronautics and Space Agency (Lapan) Thomas Djamaluddin said the amphibious N219 aircraft was targeted to be able to test flight before 2023.
"The target is that before 2023, the flight test can be tested," said Thomas.

Thomas said the float or float on the seaplane was made of composite material.

The development of the N219 amphibious aircraft is needed for the connectivity of remote islands and specifically for tourist destinations where these areas do not have ground bases.

The N219 seaplane is made to be able to take off both on land and in water.

N-219 aircraft
Aircraft N219, the work of the nation's children which is the result of cooperation between PTDI and LAPAN which has completed the entire series of certification tests and officially obtained a Type Certificate at the end of 2020 given by the competent civil aviation authority in Indonesia, namely the Directorate of Airworthiness and Aircraft Operation / DKPPU, Ministry of Transportation RI.

"The prototype of the first aircraft (Prototype Design 1) Nurtanio has undergone a Flight Cycle of 250 cycles and 275 hours of Flight Hours, while the second prototype aircraft (Prototype Design 2) N219 has undergone a Flight Cycle of 143 cycles and Flight Hours of 176 hours. So that in total the N219 aircraft have completed 393 Flight Cycles and 451 Flight Hours in this certification process, "said Director of Technology and Development of PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI) Gita Amperiawan, Monday, 28/12/2020.

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You know I once came out technical solution that only worth Rp 1.500.000 using parts bought in pasar (electronic spare parts on the upper floor, wet market at the ground floor kind), that vastly outperform & far more reliable than a US$ 2500 Made in USA equipment. And nobody wants to use my solution, even after being presented all the raw data & evidence😞 Another example is when I use Rp 250.000 + "kemenyan & jampi2x" to outperform nearly US$ 1000 worth of European made equipments, and still nobody wants to use my solutions 😞
Certification issues i think?
If you were able to achieve so far they should at least have aided you with certification process. To be honest, probably it was easier for them to buy it from a dealer despite of being cheaper :)
Certification sometimes may cost a lot, banks tend to not approve a loan for that. unless there is programme from government for the certifications and calibration, it means you are just stuck there.
 

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Certification issues i think?
If you were able to achieve so far they should at least have aided you with certification process. To be honest, probably it was easier for them to buy it from a dealer despite of being cheaper :)
Certification sometimes may cost a lot, banks tend to not approve a loan for that. unless there is programme from government for the certifications and calibration, it means you are just stuck there.

You should see what it takes for some stuff to get "space qualified" sheesh (here in Canada, US etc).

There is reason so much is from heritage era (both system and process) stuck there....though they do do the job (nothing big wrong with them its just it got leg in the door and qualified first etc).
 

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Certification issues i think?
If you were able to achieve so far they should at least have aided you with certification process. To be honest, probably it was easier for them to buy it from a dealer despite of being cheaper :)
Certification sometimes may cost a lot, banks tend to not approve a loan for that. unless there is programme from government for the certifications and calibration, it means you are just stuck there.
Here in Indonesia procurement that is not big ticket items (that is highly scrutinized) the winner of any bidding is usually already decided behind close door even before it is announced. Usually if one have very potential offering the "designated winner" will approach you at the parking lot and making an introduction while informing you that they are the "designated winner" and they were there to offer to take you (and you're offering) in as their subcontractor.
 

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Here in Indonesia procurement that is not big ticket items (that is highly scrutinized) the winner of any bidding is usually already decided behind close door even before it is announced. Usually if one have very potential offering the "designated winner" will approach you at the parking lot and making an introduction while informing you that they are the "designated winner" and they were there to offer to take you (and you're offering) in as their subcontractor.

Just look at Monas Revitalization projects, by Jakarta province Municipal government. Sigh....
 

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Just look at Monas Revitalization projects, by Jakarta province Municipal government. Sigh....
Not familiar with the case, but margin anywhere between 100% - 300% are quite common. All the officials have their own staffer that shouldn't be forgotten (otherwise they will be singing)
 

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The making of Indonesian passive radar prototype with its vehicle
No such thing as passive radar in the real world. All radar broadcast radio wave, which is why they are called radar. Same thing with lidar (laser) albeit they broadcast laser light. If they're not broadcasting any radio wave then it is NOT radar
 

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No such thing as passive radar in the real world. All radar broadcast radio wave, which is why they are called radar. Same thing with lidar (laser) albeit they broadcast laser light. If they're not broadcasting any radio wave then it is NOT radar
Uh, well, since Radar is an acronym of RAdio Detection And Ranging, it does not specify what method - whether it's by transmitting RF and detecting the signal that reflected back by objects (active), or by only detecting any RF transmitted or reflected from objects (passive).

Both methods are still within the scope of detection and ranging by using radio frequencies.
 

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No such thing as passive radar in the real world. All radar broadcast radio wave, which is why they are called radar. Same thing with lidar (laser) albeit they broadcast laser light. If they're not broadcasting any radio wave then it is NOT radar
Where you learning to?
 

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Does anyone know what parts that would be produced by Pindad in "Pindad" Cobra procurement? I failed to see any local manufacture except for cosmetic and probably tropical-suited parts (it's like Sanca all over again). How much percent is the local content, what is the benefit for us and what's the urgency of buying low quantity of 8x8 vehicle? Considering it has been listed in KKIP website and "digadang-gadang oleh media sebagai buatan Pindad".

Endnote: The name is suspiciously foreign. Even rebranded products like Elang and Sanca has local names.
 

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