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It is imported from some far away place rightI kinda wonder what kind of prestige they can get by importing Soap boxes like armored cars from unheard company like Panu or whatsoever their name is?

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It is imported from some far away place rightI kinda wonder what kind of prestige they can get by importing Soap boxes like armored cars from unheard company like Panu or whatsoever their name is?
It is imported from some far away place rightThen it is exotic / luxury goods. Same thing when someone imported his mistress from poor Eastern Europe, it will still come as an exotic / luxury goods eech sorry I mean person.
You know I once came out technical solution that only worth Rp 1.500.000 using parts bought in pasar (electronic spare parts on the upper floor, wet market at the ground floor kind), that vastly outperform & far more reliable than a US$ 2500 Made in USA equipment. And nobody wants to use my solution, even after being presented all the raw data & evidenceDon't know, sometimes Local can be better than imported ones, just look at RE local stuff like Julie Estelle, Yuki Kato, Moremans and the likes they are not fall short from the imported stuff.
Hate to be the messenger here ...but , not everybody was equally as informed as we do . Hell , even some of us here still buying the " karya bangsa " fully ...I kinda wonder what kind of prestige they can get by importing Soap boxes like armored cars from unheard company like Panu or whatsoever their name is?
If they are importing something in the same class of vehicles like Amir Gaia or Plasan Sandcat in which had reputable battle record and coming from major company from Israel in which had reputation as battle hardened country i am still get it for what they are trying to get. But this one, i can only sigh
Don't know, sometimes Local can be better than imported ones, just look at RE local stuff like Julie Estelle, Yuki Kato, Moremans and the likes they are not fall short from the imported stuff.
You know I once came out technical solution that only worth Rp 1.500.000 using parts bought in pasar (electronic spare parts on the upper floor, wet market at the ground floor kind), that vastly outperform & far more reliable than a US$ 2500 Made in USA equipment. And nobody wants to use my solution, even after being presented all the raw data & evidenceAnother example is when I use Rp 250.000 + "kemenyan & jampi2x" to outperform nearly US$ 1000 worth of European made equipments, and still nobody wants to use my solutions
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Certification issues i think?You know I once came out technical solution that only worth Rp 1.500.000 using parts bought in pasar (electronic spare parts on the upper floor, wet market at the ground floor kind), that vastly outperform & far more reliable than a US$ 2500 Made in USA equipment. And nobody wants to use my solution, even after being presented all the raw data & evidenceAnother example is when I use Rp 250.000 + "kemenyan & jampi2x" to outperform nearly US$ 1000 worth of European made equipments, and still nobody wants to use my solutions
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Certification issues i think?
If you were able to achieve so far they should at least have aided you with certification process. To be honest, probably it was easier for them to buy it from a dealer despite of being cheaper
Certification sometimes may cost a lot, banks tend to not approve a loan for that. unless there is programme from government for the certifications and calibration, it means you are just stuck there.
Here in Indonesia procurement that is not big ticket items (that is highly scrutinized) the winner of any bidding is usually already decided behind close door even before it is announced. Usually if one have very potential offering the "designated winner" will approach you at the parking lot and making an introduction while informing you that they are the "designated winner" and they were there to offer to take you (and you're offering) in as their subcontractor.Certification issues i think?
If you were able to achieve so far they should at least have aided you with certification process. To be honest, probably it was easier for them to buy it from a dealer despite of being cheaper
Certification sometimes may cost a lot, banks tend to not approve a loan for that. unless there is programme from government for the certifications and calibration, it means you are just stuck there.
Here in Indonesia procurement that is not big ticket items (that is highly scrutinized) the winner of any bidding is usually already decided behind close door even before it is announced. Usually if one have very potential offering the "designated winner" will approach you at the parking lot and making an introduction while informing you that they are the "designated winner" and they were there to offer to take you (and you're offering) in as their subcontractor.
Not familiar with the case, but margin anywhere between 100% - 300% are quite common. All the officials have their own staffer that shouldn't be forgotten (otherwise they will be singing)Just look at Monas Revitalization projects, by Jakarta province Municipal government. Sigh....
No such thing as passive radar in the real world. All radar broadcast radio wave, which is why they are called radar. Same thing with lidar (laser) albeit they broadcast laser light. If they're not broadcasting any radio wave then it is NOT radarThe making of Indonesian passive radar prototype with its vehicle
Uh, well, since Radar is an acronym of RAdio Detection And Ranging, it does not specify what method - whether it's by transmitting RF and detecting the signal that reflected back by objects (active), or by only detecting any RF transmitted or reflected from objects (passive).No such thing as passive radar in the real world. All radar broadcast radio wave, which is why they are called radar. Same thing with lidar (laser) albeit they broadcast laser light. If they're not broadcasting any radio wave then it is NOT radar
Where you learning to?No such thing as passive radar in the real world. All radar broadcast radio wave, which is why they are called radar. Same thing with lidar (laser) albeit they broadcast laser light. If they're not broadcasting any radio wave then it is NOT radar
Wood mock up?Kaplan/Harimau hitam IFV variants .
yeah i feel like it was a wood mockup too .Wood mock up?
Give it 40mm turret and it would be perfect.
If it's true that the mockup is for APC version, 40 mm would be overkill and took too much space. From the 3D model it looks like SABER25 mm turret, with the main armament consists of an ATK 25mm M242 Enhanced Bushmaster 25mm dual-feed automatic cannon which is provided with 240 rounds (150+90) of ready-use ammunition.Wood mock up?
Give it 40mm turret and it would be perfect.
or FNSS Sharpshooter .If it's true that the mockup is for APC version, 40 mm would be overkill and took too much space. From the 3D model it looks like SABER25 mm turret, with the main armament consists of an ATK 25mm M242 Enhanced Bushmaster 25mm dual-feed automatic cannon which is provided with 240 rounds (150+90) of ready-use ammunition.
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