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Being anti-America is the dumbest political thing you can do. America is a super power whose relationship is critical. Every nation that was hardcore anti-American was reduced to dust or trash status. We don't want to see Turkey turn into Iran.

Turkey cannot afford to be anti-american, what she can be is heavily proactive and wise in her geopolitical endeavours. Had AK party not made a mess of Syria, we wouldn't be watching the americans create kurdistan 2.0 there.

America is a reality that must be managed correctly. Managing that relationship from an anti position is going to lead Turkey into fights she cannot win.

Tomorrow if Turkish anti-american policies lead to a direct confrontation with america and the americans tear Turkey apart are we going to clap our hands now that the Turkish people have been turned into the new Palestinians? Where we get too turn on the TV and watch Turkish kids like morons throw stones at american occupying tanks?

We already see what is happening to Turks in China.

The understanding of what intelligence is, and how it is to be cultivated into greater wisdom....is arguably the highest realm and application of ethics and morality.
 

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CHP's MENA policy is a big question for me. Will it be more isolating policy but in a bad way? CHP on numerous occasions made bad geopolitical statements. They were asking why we were in Libya. Libya probably one of the only places we have to be at not because of failed AKP policies.
 

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CHP's MENA policy is a big question for me. Will it be more isolating policy but in a bad way? CHP on numerous occasions made bad geopolitical statements. They were asking why we were in Libya. Libya probably one of the only places we have to be at not because of failed AKP policies.

Chp is too European aligned!!

Fck that. Turks need to reach the damn world we are a bridge!!

We need make ourselves felt across the world. We need to be in Europe, Africa, Asia, North America, Australia, South America also Antarctica.

Being in Libya was the right choice. Now we signed a deal with Ethiopia regarding Gas, Oil and Minerals.
 

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CHP's MENA policy is a big question for me. Will it be more isolating policy but in a bad way? CHP on numerous occasions made bad geopolitical statements. They were asking why we were in Libya. Libya probably one of the only places we have to be at not because of failed AKP policies.
both libya and azerbaijan were correct choices tbh
Syria and Iraq are for national security

If turkey left libya which the CHP said they would do, it would be a great mistake
If a country wanna grow, its presence must be felt everywhere and that is a fact


All the major players in the world are like that, China, Russia, USA, France, UK, Germany, Spain, and Italy
If turkey wanna be like them, they must establish themselves in all of Africa at least
 

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Chp is too European aligned!!

Fck that. Turks need to reach the damn world we are a bridge!!

We need make ourselves felt across the world. We need to be in Europe, Africa, Asia, North America, Australia, South America also Antarctica.

Being in Libya was the right choice. Now we signed a deal with Ethiopia regarding Gas, Oil and Minerals.
When did turkey sign a deal with Ethiopia
 

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We got nothing to apologise about.

In Anatolia we fought to survive. Our ancestors knew the end was coming either we fight or the homeland of the Turks would be wiped out forever.

Because if the Greeks and the Armenians won they would have wiped us without mercy lets all be honest. The reason why they are whining and crying about this genocide bs because they could not replicate what happened in the Balkans and Spain.

The Turks fought tooth and nail. Honestly regardless of what peoples views of Ataturk is I will always will be grateful to him and our forefathers who fought for this homeland.

People can constantly argue about Ataturk regarding his policies or his religion does not change the fact he led our nation to its finest hour in the days of darkness. While Chicken shit Vahdettin failed us. I know Vahdettin was not leadership material i try to be fair as I can with him since he was given an empire that was already collapsing no chamce ypu can reverse ita fortunes in a short amount of time, but he let us down in our darkest moment. An Ottoman sultan does not surrender he fights but he did the opposite.
 

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Alright, a scared rector can install an iron fence to prevent people from entering to the university at his own will and obviously he can stop academicians who works in there from entering at his own will as well.
My academician friend in the university has verified she wasn't able to enter in the last days.
He is so scared of being protested that he will end up deserting the campus and live happily inside with his own backers.
Should also note he has established a new faculty and appointed a new dean so that he can recruit some yandas easier. He even doesn't have guts to resign and he is emptying his own academic life ,he is not even aware.
 

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I expected more parties to stand up.

So why side with feto/ak party? Is it a new thing the political islamists of feto/ak party started to insult and attack Ataturk? The political islamist class are left leaning marxists in disguise. They want big government, control of all institutions and instruments, denouncing of nationalism and national history. A poor working class whose wealth is distributed among the many millions of refugees etc.

When you look at everything the political islamists are doing, its communism in disguise. If they achieve their ambitions, they would then turn on the religion itself.
 

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We got nothing to apologise about.

In Anatolia we fought to survive. Our ancestors knew the end was coming either we fight or the homeland of the Turks would be wiped out forever.

Because if the Greeks and the Armenians won they would have wiped us without mercy lets all be honest. The reason why they are whining and crying about this genocide bs because they could not replicate what happened in the Balkans and Spain.

The Turks fought tooth and nail. Honestly regardless of what peoples views of Ataturk is I will always will be grateful to him and our forefathers who fought for this homeland.

People can constantly argue about Ataturk regarding his policies or his religion does not change the fact he led our nation to its finest hour in the days of darkness. While Chicken shit Vahdettin failed us. I know Vahdettin was not leadership material i try to be fair as I can with him since he was given an empire that was already collapsing no chamce ypu can reverse ita fortunes in a short amount of time, but he let us down in our darkest moment. An Ottoman sultan does not surrender he fights but he did the opposite.
i was referring to Armenians learning turkish . nothing good will come out of it
 

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Why wouldn't Turkey transport weapons into Syria? Russia, America, England, France, Germany, Italy, Iran are all their sending guns and weapons. Every single one of those actors are supporting sides that are all anti Turkey. The truth is the Turk has to be more active, more aggressive and wiser about how they conduct business. "soverignty is not given, it is taken" Freedom and liberty will not be given to the Turks.

Fighting in syria and sending guns is self defence for Turkey.
 
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I expected more parties to stand up.
He is not sincere. The real problem is different.


He should have protested Erdoğan who was listening when Molla cursed Atatürk.

The real problem Erdoğan allowed Molla cursing Atatürk
 

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The political islamist class are left leaning marxists in disguise.
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you my friend , are a learned men
They want big government, control of all institutions and instruments, denouncing of nationalism and national history. A poor working class whose wealth is distributed among the many millions of refugees etc.

When you look at everything the political islamists are doing, its communism in disguise. If they achieve their ambitions, they would then turn on the religion itself.
not long a ago i argued with my friend that turkey is no longer a capitalist country if you dont have someone in akp you cant run business
 

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Why wouldn't Turkey transport weapons into Syria? Russia, America, England, France, Germany, Italy, Iran are all their sending guns and weapons. Every single one of those actors are supporting sides that are all anti Turkey. The truth is the Turk has to be more active, more aggressive and wiser about how they conduct business. "soverignty is not given, it is taken" Freedom and liberty will not be given to the Turks.

Fighting in syria and sending guns is self defence for Turkey.

Journalists crying about exposing military operations and proxy conflicts.

Then they cry when they get caged. Bad luck if you do this in every country they will arrest even throw you into prison without trial or get executed. Dumbass journalists.

Those weapons we sent into Syria went to our Syrian Turkmen brothers who were getting slaughtered by Assad/Russia, the Kurds and Isis terrorists.

The world ignored their plight when Turkey tried to do something. The world condemned us.

The days of Turkiye staring and staying back are over. If not we will end up like the Uygurs if nothing is done.
 

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When isis destroyed Iraqi Turkmen villages.

The world cared fck all about it compared to the Yazidis and Assyrians.

When Turkey does something for the Iraqi Turkmens and Syrian Turkmens the whole world condemns us with dirty lies.
 

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Interesting read, when I first heard about the Peker story there were some things i immediatly asked myself such as, how come that this person immediately got such publicity? Why is this man in small oil town? Is there a connection between him and small oil town? Since Biden is back in the biz, he already threatend that he will influence Turkish politics -not by a coup-, could this be meant by that?

Michael Rubin signaled Sedat Peker plot against Turkey in 2016​

BY DAILY SABAH​

ISTANBUL INVESTIGATIONS
JUN 01, 2021 12:42 PM GMT+3
Sedat Peker talks in a video displayed on a mobile phone, in a photograph taken in Istanbul, Turkey, May 26, 2021. (AFP PHOTO)
Sedat Peker talks in a video displayed on a mobile phone, in a photograph taken in Istanbul, Turkey, May 26, 2021. (AFP PHOTO)



An article dating back to 2016 that was penned by former Pentagon adviser Michael Rubin, a man who knew of an imminent Gülenist Terror Group (FETÖ) coup plot five years ago, is back in the spotlight. Rubin is an American neocon scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), a fierce advocate of the terrorist group, and he apparently signaled the current plot by mob boss Sedat Peker back in October 2016. Peker, believed to be in Dubai now after fleeing Turkey where he is wanted on charges of running an organized crime gang, made headlines for a series of videos he posted in which he fired up allegations against politicians, particularly Interior Minister Süleyman Soylu. Authorities have slammed Peker’s claims as slander and defamation as the mob boss has failed to produce any evidence for his allegations.
Rubin’s article confirms Turkish officials’ concerns that Peker’s defamation campaign might be the work of anti-Turkey circles, including FETÖ, which seeks to destabilize the country. The article mentions a new “coup on the horizon” against the government, this time courtesy of Peker whom Rubin describes as Turkey’s “most powerful mafioso.” He says that the question remains whether the Turkish mafia and “deep state” would tolerate competition with President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and asks, “If there is a showdown, will it be violent?” He portrays Peker as a “deep state” figure and points out that he had connections to some politicians “to place a figurehead in the presidential palace” if Erdoğan is “assassinated.” The article bluntly concludes that Erdoğan is “a dead man walking.”
Turkish media outlets say that Rubin’s article was actually the first sign of a plot to topple Erdoğan hatched five years ago but shelved after Democrats in the United States, endorsed by FETÖ whose leader lives in Pennsylvania, lost the presidential election. The Peker plot resurfaced again after U.S. President Joe Biden took office, Turkish media says. In a video that surfaced last year, Biden, then a candidate, said he would seek a regime change in Turkey and expressed his willingness to work with "opposition leadership" in the country to topple Erdoğan in Turkey's 2023 elections. “We can support those elements of the Turkish leadership that still exist and get more from them and embolden them to be able to take on and defeat Erdoğan. Not by a coup, not by a coup, but by the electoral process,” he said. An article on the A Haber website says that a plot is afoot through Peker, who resides in United Arab Emirates which they describe as a “financier of 2016 coup attempt.”
The Turkish news report also mentions that the mob boss’s allegations are similar to those by FETÖ-linked police chiefs and prosecutors against the government during the terrorist group’s 2013 coup attempt.
Peker himself had denied Rubin’s allegations in one of his notorious videos while Rubin responded to him by saying “stop whining.”

Erdoğan last month voiced his support for Soylu in the face of Peker’s allegations. “We stood with our interior minister in his struggle against terrorist groups and criminal gangs. Our nation is aware of everyone who supports terrorist groups, criminal gangs and enemies of Turkey,” Erdoğan said in an address to the members of the ruling Justice and Development (AK Party). Erdoğan stated that the “true intention” of the videos was obvious as they also targeted the son of “our friend,” former Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım, pointing to a plot against top officials as Turkey stepped up its fight against organized crime and terrorism.
Michael Rubin is known for his staunch stance against President Erdoğan and in 2019, he suggested that Erdoğan would "end up being exiled, imprisoned or executed," in an article for the Washington Examiner. He also drew the ire of the Turkish public for his open support of FETÖ, and a number of Turkish lawyers filed a lawsuit against Rubin over the matter.
He had suggested that a coup was imminent in Turkey four months before FETÖ's attempt, though he later argued that it was "engineered" by Erdoğan, a view shared by the terrorist group's supporters seeking asylum abroad with their false narrative of being victims of a "purge." Although he was anti-FETÖ when the group posed as a religious charity movement in the past, he became an advocate for them on social media, while a former FETÖ member claimed that Rubin personally visited the group's leader Fetullah Gülen in the latter's retreat in Pennsylvania in 2015. Rubin is also in close contact with Ahmet Sait Yayla, a fugitive former police chief linked to the terrorist group.





 

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