Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Lordimperator]

3 dedicated aaw destroyer (orizonte class) with radar configuration of apar block 2 + smart l mk2 with 64 cells for aster 30 block 1nt

Horizon class only has 48 cell,

 

[NEKO]

that's why for heavy combatant at least we need;
- 3 dedicated aaw destroyer (orizonte class) with radar configuration of apar block 2 + smart l mk2 with 64 cells for aster 30 block 1nt
- 20 frigates; 4 iver aaw + 8 fremm GP + 8 fremm ASW
- 7 martadinata class with current configuration.

estimation: ~$25 billion

It is easy to make a wishlist, but to realized that is a different matter.

Australian and Singaporean : kek

Don't forget Brazil their population, economy and military will grow bigger.

 

[Lordimperator]

Don't forget Brazil their population, economy and military will grow bigger

Even they want to make ssn "mutant" scorpene at 2030,

 

[NEKO]

Even they want to make ssn "mutant" scorpene at 2030,

If somehow in the future we have bigger ambitions who know maybe we will approach them for their nuclear marine propulsion.

 

[Lordimperator]

we will approach them for their nuclear marine propulsion

Well, it will make our southern neighbour "ketar ketir" which i think they will try to hinder us getting such capability

 

[archwings]

It is easy to make a wishlist, but to realized that is a different matter.

with $79 billion credit card, it is possible. i would put $35 billion for the navy, $25 billion for the air force, $10 billion for the army, $5 billion for mabes tni (satelite, c4sir) and $4 billion for local defense industry.

 

[JATOSINT]

Who said we couldn't ?? It's the price tag that deter us for so long ...

I thought NSM is cheaper than Exocet, no?

 

[Umigami]

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Their Radar and Mogami looks promising.

 

[Madokafc]

with $79 billion credit card, it is possible. i would put $35 billion for the navy, $25 billion for the air force, $10 billion for the army, $5 billion for mabes tni (satelite, c4sir) and $4 billion for local defense industry.

It is the other way around, Air Force should be more larger than Navy but not much or maybe should be close enough.

Nowadays fighter is very expensive and to Made it economically feasible to Made it in Indonesia we need more money

 

[Van Kravchenko]

Australian and Singaporean : kek

Its a long long way to go.

Just like older member said, keep work, and pay tax, tree doesnt grow on trees.


I Just wish the IH and FREMM contract isn' t a Prank at all !

 

[Madokafc]

Its a long long way to go.

Just like older member said, keep work, and pay tax, tree doesnt grow on trees.


I Just wish the IH and FREMM contract isn' t a Prank at all !

So you should start your contribution, smoking more, drink more and eating more!!!

 

[Ravager]

I thought NSM is cheaper than Exocet, no?

Depending on the block . Since we allready using the older version and familiar with it . in the overall range NSM were considered as pricier . Not to mention the size of munition/war head differences . It's not an apple to apple comparison .

 

[FoodSoldier]

with $79 billion credit card, it is possible. i would put $35 billion for the navy, $25 billion for the air force, $10 billion for the army, $5 billion for mabes tni (satelite, c4sir) and $4 billion for local defense industry.

The biggest chunk is for the airforce ($30-ish bio), next is Navy ($25-ish bio) and Army got the smallest ($15-ish bio)

 

[trishna_amrta]

2 IH + 6 FREMM + 8 30FFM = 16
Wait a sec... didn't the navy want to buy 16 or something frigate?
Does maestrale included or not?

Maestrale class is merely a stop gap solution. So it doesn't count

 

[Ravager]

The biggest chunk is for the airforce ($30-ish bio), next is Navy ($25-ish bio) and Army got the smallest ($15-ish bio)

Well , i hope it will come true ...it's a long overdue anyway .

 

[trishna_amrta]

From brownwater coastal Navies suddenly emerged as Big Greenwater Navy bordering to the blue ones (minus Air arm based on flat top platform and land strike Submarine platform)

hey now, even in the current state TNI-AL is already Green Water Navy, albeit maybe 2nd rated Green Water Navy.

And if we use Todd & Lindberg classification system (c.2019) by the time those Iver Huitfeld class, Bergamini class, and maybe the (Mogami class perhabs?) along with those subs (Scorpene 2000 or Type-214) then TNI-AL will become 4th rated Blue Water Navy

 

[trishna_amrta]

that's why for heavy combatant at least we need;
- 3 dedicated aaw destroyer (orizonte class) with radar configuration of apar block 2 + smart l mk2 with 64 cells for aster 30 block 1nt
- 20 frigates; 4 iver aaw + 8 fremm GP + 8 fremm ASW
- 7 martadinata class with current configuration.

estimation: ~$25 billion

maybe we will approach them for their nuclear marine propulsion.

Mantap sekali ini. Barusan minum Cap Tikus yang rasa apa bang

 

[trishna_amrta]

Just like older member said, keep work, and pay tax, tree doesnt grow on trees.

You can always contribute more with these type of goods ;

 

[trishna_amrta]

My only worry with all these new modern platform is material readiness & logistic. Particularly the availability of fuel, spare parts, and naval ordinance (missiles & heavy torpedo)

 

[Van Kravchenko]

So you should start your contribution, smoking more, drink more and eating more!!!

You can always contribute more with these type of goods ;

Nah guys, i rather pay for my land and vehicle tax. Unfortunately i also got tax cut in my sallary.

Maestrale class is merely a stop gap solution. So it doesn't count

Perhaps you should revised your arguments, learning from curret secondhand Vessel in Navy inventory how come 40 + years of commision called interim, furthermore this Maestralle also got some enhancement (perhaps will be better than PKR, muehehe) so, they will serving ID Navy for around 20 yrs.

i mean, what interim did you mean ?, we're already in dire need for both quantity and quality of warmachines (according to some experts).
Also if this interim stuff got upgrade, they still can bite & ressist tho