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[Afif]

''To commemorate the 76th anniversary of the founding of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), the PLA Air Force released a short film titled "Lofty Dreams" on Tuesday. The film, for the first time, revealed footage of the GJ-11 stealth drone flying in formation with J-20 stealth''


guess some may need more than a short film of a flight in formation during a commemortion to call it ''it has become the first country to operationalize'' ??? just saying

Guys ANKA-3 is operational...

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They usually don't do it unless it is in service.

J-35 (its early prototype) was flying for years.

But this one is from few months ago after it entered service with PLAAF.

 

[Quasar]

They usually don't do it unless it is in service.

J-35 (its early prototype) was flying for years.

But this one is from few months ago after it entered service with PLAAF.

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thanks but ''They usually don't do it'' is not good enough

 

[Quasar]

most of the time I love your perspective I really mean it ...... objective and Critial which is quite rare!! dont get me wrong but when it comes to China your objective and critical thinking requires a bit polishing

ok fair point could be

China became the first country to operationalize ''this type of UCAV'' which is made in China

Russia Became the first country to operationalize ''this type of UCAV'' which is made in Russia and even lost one in Ukraine

operational in a very broad sense I guess

USA .............?

 

[Ripley]

We should also take into account the political and even strategic concerns of any given country as well, I believe. Like one man’s food other man’s poison, you know.
Turkey, for instance, parading every step of its projects with a lot of fanfare, if you ask me. But I also can understand the reasoning behind starting from political PR/propaganda, all the way up to showcasing its newly gained capabilities with every new hardware, hence creating a deterrent for its foes.

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1988517288409026810

 

[Ripley]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1989101366120444024

Kozan Erkan:
“May Allah never let anyone sink this low. Someone with a military background wouldn't make a post like this. It's highly likely work of unqualified staff Dendias assigned for social media. Nevertheless, it didn't befit the Greek Air Force.”

I feel the same way. I’m not raged or gone mad but just feeling bad for whole thing.
The loss of life at a plane crash is tragic, regardless of nationality. Also, aviators, aviation enthusiasts universally don’t enjoy such tragic accidents but rather feel sorrow for the loss of crew and souls out of respect of this profession.
So sad indeed.

 

[Iskander]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1989101366120444024

Kozan Erkan:
“May Allah never let anyone sink this low. Someone with a military background wouldn't make a post like this. It's highly likely work of unqualified staff Dendias assigned for social media. Nevertheless, it didn't befit the Greek Air Force.”

I feel the same way. I’m not raged or gone mad but just feeling bad for whole thing.
The loss of life at a plane crash is tragic, regardless of nationality. Also, aviation enthusiasts universally don’t enjoy such tragic accidents but rather feel sorrow for the loss of crew and souls out of respect of this profession.
So sad indeed.

From history.
An ancient historian writes that Themistocles ordered the Persian ambassador's tongue to be torn out for daring to address him in the sacred Greek language, thereby desecrating it.



Modern times.
Law enforcement in Rome is investigating incidents from 30 years ago, when wealthy individuals from Italy, the United States, and Russia came to Yugoslavia as tourists and, for fun, shot Kosovars from heights near the city.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1ow3y2j

The video shows the popular Russian writer Limonov, accompanied by Karadzic, shooting defenseless Kosovars with machine guns out of hatred for Muslims.
Civilization!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DKFsIFrKr7XI&ved=2ahUKEwj7zZeihPGQAxXAX0EAHdgxEn8Qo7QBegQIExAE&usg=AOvVaw09aYQTtIURNsYr-Yz56q1-

Progress seems to be evident. After all, it's just a photo.

 

[OPTIMUS]

Here I would like to hear your opinions.

Yesterday a 12-year-old deaf girl was shot dead by the German police. She used to be placed in the home, but from there she was foaled to her mother. Two Dute police officers wanted to bring the girl back There was an argument, because the girl does not want to leave her mother. A policeman hit the girl with Tesar, one shot her life-threatening

Now all TV stations and radio stations are switched to defense mode for police.

My question would the Turkish police have done something like that, what would happen.

As a note in Germany, the 6 meter rule applies for the protection of the police. FROM 6 meters approach, police officers may feel "threatened".

 

[Ripley]

Here I would like to hear your opinions.

Yesterday a 12-year-old deaf girl was shot dead by the German police. She used to be placed in the home, but from there she was foaled to her mother. Two Dute police officers wanted to bring the girl back There was an argument, because the girl does not want to leave her mother. A policeman hit the girl with Tesar, one shot her life-threatening

Now all TV stations and radio stations are switched to defense mode for police.

My question would the Turkish police have done something like that, what would happen.

As a note in Germany, the 6 meter rule applies for the protection of the police. FROM 6 meters approach, police officers may feel "threatened".

My friend your news lacks quite substantial facts. It’d be just fair to express opinions only after all elements reviewed.

German police shoot 12-year-old girl during welfare check

Officers fired at hearing-impaired child who approached them with knives at her mother's home, sparking debate over police violence and use of force against minors - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[OPTIMUS]

Very pretty.

now the facts statements of the police:

1) The 12-year-old child had a knife in his hand.
2) The girl had 2 knives in her hand.
3) The girl was holding two butcher knives in her hands.
4) The girl attacked the Police officers.
5) The girl didn't look like she was 12 years old.
6) The officers did not know that the girl was deaf.
7) The girl has crossed 6 meters line.
8) The fact that both Police officers dared at the same time to shoot, shows how dangerous the girl was.

These are the points that are repeated on the radio every hour.

 

[TR_123456]

My friend your news lacks quite substantial facts. It’d be just fair to express opinions only after all elements reviewed.

German police shoot 12-year-old girl during welfare check

Officers fired at hearing-impaired child who approached them with knives at her mother's home, sparking debate over police violence and use of force against minors - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

You dont find it odd that they tasered and shot her at the same time?
A twelf year old kid with a knife,what can she do against a grown man?
German police officers have body armor in cities.
Trust me when i say that this story is bs,they just shot her dead,why not the legs?
They are trained to shoot the leg,something is really wrong here.
Keep in mind,this is not the US,its Western Europe.

 

[OPTIMUS]

The German police train to shoot at the body. The Turkish police, however, train to shoot at the legs. That's why a member of the PÖH was killed in a firefight.

But for me, it's also very interesting how the German media, as if by a magical hand, was switched to stand behind the police.

 

[Ripley]

You dont find it odd that they tasered and shot her at the same time?
A twelf year old kid with a knife,what can she do against a grown man?
German police officers have body armor in cities.
Trust me when i say that this story is bs,they just shot her dead,why not the legs?
They are trained to shoot the leg,something is really wrong here.
Keep in mind,this is not the US,its Western Europe.

You want my opinion? Police were way out of line by shooting a 12 year old girl with a firearm whom they had just teased. I doubt the German police were trained in that manner. They seemed like fighting in a close quarters combat in an urban area.
Shameful.

 

[TR_123456]

The German police train to shoot at the body. The Turkish police, however, train to shoot at the legs. That's why a member of the PÖH was killed in a firefight.

But for me, it's also very interesting how the German media, as if by a magical hand, was switched to stand behind the police.

German police are trained to aim for the torso when lethal force is necessary, but are also trained to fire warning shots or aim for the legs to stop a fleeing suspect when the situation is not life-threatening
. The decision depends on the specific threat and the immediate danger to the officer or others. Aiming for the center mass (torso) is taught as the most effective way to stop an aggressor in a life-threatening situation because it is the largest target.

Training priorities

• Life-threatening situations: Officers are trained to aim for the torso to stop the threat as quickly as possible.
• Fleeing suspects: They are advised to shoot at the legs (not the knees) to stop someone from fleeing without the intention of causing lethal harm.
• Warning shots: The use of firearms is a last resort, and officers are trained to fire warning shots first.
• Non-lethal options: Officers are trained to use force that is proportional to the threat, meaning they are taught to aim for parts that won't cause lethal wounds if the situation does not involve an immediate threat to life

A kid with a knife is not life threatening,specially when it is little a girl.

 

[Ripley]

The German police train to shoot at the body. The Turkish police, however, train to shoot at the legs. That's why a member of the PÖH was killed in a firefight.

But for me, it's also very interesting how the German media, as if by a magical hand, was switched to stand behind the police.

Honestly, i suspect Turkish Police get much of real life situations training. If you follow social media, you’ll see many cases Turkish police trying convince the murderer and suspect with murder weapon in hand standing beside the victims.
These scenes created a strong criticism toward Turkish Police. Only after that, they started shooting at murderers and suspects weapons in hand.
Turkish law enforcement officers were skeptical because they were afraid of the legal and social consequences.