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Another trap they are playing on the Turks is the mentality "send them all back". To me that's a hijacking and an indirect way to discredit peoples concerns with incredible levels of migration.

This isn't an issue to do with racism, this isn't an issue to do with being against migrants or refugees. Any sane state has rules and procedures in place for such people that should be followed according to a states capacity.

There are many legitimate reasons why a nation should be against such levels of migrations and continued migrations. These issues should be at the forefront and the counter productive rhetoric is something that you shouldn't fall into.

For me the biggest issue is the insidious agenda behind it all, for others the economic cost to a nation who cannot even feed her own people, for others its the social disharmony and friction. Then we have the Kurdish PKK terrorism problem. Literally many reasons why this insanity cannot continue.

I have no issues with someone taking the legit means to enter a nation and then being granted citizenship. But what we have is really an "agenda" in play. The migrants themselves are also victims to a certain degree.
 

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Another trap they are playing on the Turks is the mentality "send them all back". To me that's a hijacking and an indirect way to discredit peoples concerns with incredible levels of migration.

This isn't an issue to do with racism, this isn't an issue to do with being against migrants or refugees. Any sane state has rules and procedures in place for such people that should be followed according to a states capacity.

There are many legitimate reasons why a nation should be against such levels of migrations and continued migrations. These issues should be at the forefront and the counter productive rhetoric is something that you shouldn't fall into.

For me the biggest issue is the insidious agenda behind it all, for others the economic cost to a nation who cannot even feed her own people, for others its the social disharmony and friction. Then we have the Kurdish PKK terrorism problem. Literally many reasons why this insanity cannot continue.

I have no issues with someone taking the legit means to enter a nation and then being granted citizenship. But what we have is really an "agenda" in play. The migrants themselves are also victims to a certain degree.
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I have a question. What exactly are the supporters of Erdogan supporting him for in this election? Is it because he is against terrorist organizations like FETO, Hezbollah, and PKK? Is it because of his nationalism? Is it because they support his immigration policy? Is it because they are satisfied with him on economic matters? Is it because he is Islamist? Is it for the defense industry? Is it because of the bridges and roads he has built?

The reason I ask these questions is as follows: Erdogan and the AK Party had previously cooperated directly with FETO and PKK. Now it seems they are also in cooperation with Hezbollah via Hüda Par. Regarding nationalism, Erdogan himself once said, 'I have trampled on all kinds of nationalism.' Furthermore, the party he is currently cooperating with, Huda-Par, has an aversion even to the word 'Turk'. Although the economy used to be good, there has been extreme inflation in recent years, and people's purchasing power has significantly decreased. In this regard, immigrants also play a significant role.

However, despite the fact that Erdogan has made significant mistakes and contradictory statements on many of these issues, I have observed the strange phenomenon that the majority (or at least a significant portion) of Erdogan's supporters seem to pretend that Erdogan is faultless on most of these issues, or at least believe he is far better than his alternatives. And These are the only fundamental issues that voters consider when making decisions in Turkey. I am certain that the people here may have seen many of AKP's mistakes in various other areas.
I will answer your questions correctly even though I've never been to Turkiye.
"Turkey’s GDP per capita stood at $3,641 in 2002, the year before Erdogan became prime minister, and reached $9,661 in 2021, according to the latest World Bank data" (CNN Business)
Erdogan more than trippled Turkiye's GDP per capita during his rule. But today, the West tries to convince people that Erdogan's mismanagement of the economy is the cause of Turkiye's economic problems. How can people believe them, specially when there are clues of Western economic attack on Turkiye everywhere.
As for Erdogan's refugee policy, people support him out of compassion for the stranded MUSLIM refugees. We true Muslims are more intimately connected than our enemies think. You may call us Islamists or fundamentalists or even terrorists, but no toture or badmouthing will make us abandon our brothers and especially our leaders (Erdogan a good example). This is why the combined force of the Western media and opposition propaganda does not convince the Turkish conservative base. Islam and their leader is way more important than the economy.
No politician will succeed in a conservative Muslim community if he has Western support. We dislike almost everything the West stands for. We will never like or trust their governments - especially not after the 65+ million deaths and displacements they inflicted on the Muslim world since 9/11 (and these crimes will be paid for no matter how long it takes).
CHP's or KK's biggest mistake was getting the endorsement of the West at a time when anti-Western sentiments in the Muslim world is through the roofs. As long as conservative Muslims are a majority in Turkiye, secularists should forget about winning elections.
 

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Ada Uzkul 23 years old killed by syrian when she refuse his offer of friendship. she was about to get engaged with her boyfriend

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Canan Çimen kill by Syrian guy. first he attacked him by baseball bat then killed him by pistol, leaving his 3 children orphans


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It seems Turkiye is the only country where refugees commit crimes. There were no crimes in Turkiye before the refugees came. No Turkish nationals committed crimes against any refugee. All the refugees must be criminals because of a handful of crimes committed by some.
 

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It seems Turkiye is the only country where refugees commit crimes. There were no crimes in Turkiye before the refugees came. No Turkish nationals committed crimes against any refugee. All the refugees must be criminals because of a handful of crimes committed by some.
according to Süleyman Soylu half of the crime committed in turkey is committed by foreign nationals and no we didn't had any case before that a Turkish guy drew out his pines and start masturbate while stalking a girl in street or forcing 10 year old boys to become kooni and dance in order to give sexually excitement then get fuked

thanks to the Muslim ummah our culture will get richer with bacha bazi mashallah
 

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Read the posts above and listen to foreigners, stop complaining about illegal immigrants commiting crimes and keep voting akp to welcome more 3rd world, they only want the best for you.
 

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according to Süleyman Soylu half of the crime committed in turkey is committed by foreign nationals and no we didn't had any case before that a Turkish guy drew out his pines and start masturbate while stalking a girl in street or forcing 10 year old boys to become kooni and dance in order to give sexually excitement then get fuked

thanks to the Muslim ummah our culture will get richer with bacha bazi mashallah
I had bought body armour to bring outside.,just warned by the police in metro.

How can these syrian bring the gun outside ?wtf the Turkish police do?To check the basic self defense item of TC citizen?
 

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I can't understand how people ignoring Turkish economy. In İstanbul most of "esnaf" are almost dead. People can not earn enough money to eat.
On the other hand last important 10 days, we were speaking about S.oğan bitch.

My congratulations to Erdoğan, he knows how to manipulate opposition's agenda.
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Dört gün önce tekrar görevimi yaptım.
 

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We cant wear BALİSTİK YELEK outside,we cant bring a plastic Jopu outside.

And the syrian can bring knife and gun.
 

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I don't think I will travel to Türkiye for a holiday any more. If the refugee problem isn't solved I will be there to fight for our second war of independence.





I'm warning you all not to watch this because your blood will boil.



See, this is why citizens should be armed. Refugee comes at you with knife, you blast him with a shotgun. As the Germans can attest, those make for especially painful wounds so the assailant will learn his lesson.

I can criticize many things about America but the right to bear arms is something that frankly every country in the world should embrace.

Also, WHY ARE THEY JUST FILMING? Throw a stone at the Syrian's head or something. Get lucky and you might kill him or knock him out.
 

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See, this is why citizens should be armed. Refugee comes at you with knife, you blast him with a shotgun. As the Germans can attest, those make for especially painful wounds so the assailant will learn his lesson.

I can criticize many things about America but the right to bear arms is something that frankly every country in the world should embrace.
we didnt need for that before 2012 when the islamist open the flood gate
 

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Erdoğan will this election, we all know this. But what's happening now will permanently push the vast majority of Millennials and Gen Z away from Islam. Meanwhile in the West, youth are getting more conservative.



I believe that the Islamist apparatus in Türkiye always knew that urbanisation would lead to less religious youth and eventually a future Türkiye which strongly secular. Therefore to reverse this trend they are allowing mass migration into the nation. Little did they know that this would increase nationalism but also anti-Islamism among Turkish youth at a pace faster than they could ever imagine.
 

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Erdoğan will this election, we all know this. But what's happening now will permanently push the vast majority of Millennials and Gen Z away from Islam. Meanwhile in the West, youth are getting more conservative.



I believe that the Islamist apparatus in Türkiye always knew that urbanisation would lead to less religious youth and eventually a future Türkiye which strongly secular. Therefore to reverse this trend they are allowing mass migration into the nation. Little did they know that this would increase nationalism but also anti-Islamism among Turkish youth at a pace faster than they could ever imagine.

If they cannot conquer us directly and overtly, they work to destabilise us. The PKK is a good example, no Kurdish terrorists irrespective of how much american/russian support could ever overturn the power and might of the Turkish nation. Impossible, so they used to it drain the resources and energies of the state instead. Its the same trick with the Armenians, they know the Armenians stand no chance against Turkiye, they even got swept away by Azerbaijan, so they do the next best thing they make sure the friction and conflict drains energies of the Turkish state.

This Islamist friction they are creating is intended to waste the energies and potential of the nation. For them they are already winning.
 

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I don't think I will travel to Türkiye for a holiday any more. If the refugee problem isn't solved I will be there to fight for our second war of independence.





I'm warning you all not to watch this because your blood will boil.



İt is being said that the murderer was a Turkish man and it happened two months ago . So don't trust. becareful
 
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