TR Air Defence Programs

[Kartal1]

What are you talking about I am the one who posted the FPV videos in the first place. How can you even say I don't know about mountainous Iraqi north?
DUDE, STOP MAKING THINGS ABOUT ME OR ATTACKING ME PERSONALLY. Isn't that against the rules? The rules don't apply to you since you are the lead mod, is that it?

No there aren't any jammers in any of these attacks if they were there wouldn't be dozens of drone attacks with no one even scattering due to drone alarm. Show me where are our soldiers carrying a second gun, a shotgun. They don't even give proper body armor to our boys either. Just compare our tiny plates (if they even are wearing one by a miracle) with American kits.

Even if there is just 1 commando on a temporary high mountain top you can still have a portable jammer or at least an UAV alarm like the one in the second video.A small UAV alarm wouldn't even use much energy unlike a jammer. I was a communications officer in TAF so, I know what I am talking about. Stop trying to patronize or insult me.

Show me on the video I posted where are they, any of it hard kill Şahin, jammers, UAV alarms or shotguns? I know they have some hard/soft kill stuff on bigger bases but they have nothing in these smaller temporary bases that PKK attacks much more frequently.

So now you are even implying I am somehow supporting PKK by pointing out clear-cut, negligence that kills our boys. Wow... This is the sad mentality that is actually KILLING our soldiers. Instead of FIXING the problem, make 1001 excuses do to nothing and blame those who point out shortcomings that are the cause of our losses. Nice, real nice example of what I was referring to earlier.

Yes, I imply that you don't have any idea of the areas TSK is deployed right now, the risks involved, the topographic specifics, the direction from which the drones in question came or the location and proximity of civilian settlements compared to our bases. You don't have any idea of the measures taken, nor the equipment the soldiers are given or the difficulties at Amedi and Matin that are preventing the more effective deployment of counter-measures.

There is a good reason why the systems in question are not deployed on these exact places, but hopefully this problem will be sorted out in the coming 2 months.

I don't care who you are or what you've been. If you think that you are worthy enough so I lose my precious time to personally attack you I have bad news for you.

I would be the first one to criticize TSK when it comes to the operations we carry out and I did it before, can do it again without any sense for remorse or fear, but when I see people talking absolute sh!t without having even the slightest idea about what they are talking about, without even taking the step to have a 5 minutes read while we currently have the best feed on the operations in Iraq and Syria, creating a fusion from the best sources available, I feel obligated to respond. If you are going to criticize for the sake of criticism, it's your choice and no one is going to meddle, just don't be mad when response comes.

Everything you want a footage of (as far as it's not abusing OPSEC rules) was already posted in the Iraq, firearms and small drones threads.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1807831884291784843

Sungur Manpads with 2x2 launcher on VURAN Multi-Purpose Armored Vehicle

 

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1807831884291784843

Sungur Manpads with 2x2 launcher on VURAN Multi-Purpose Armored Vehicle

I can see six holes? No?

 

[Bogeyman]

I can see six holes? No?

The friends I asked said there were 4. I don't know.

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1807831884291784843

Sungur Manpads with 2x2 launcher on VURAN Multi-Purpose Armored Vehicle

Ancient photo, at least 3 years old from when BMC showed off Leotay. No Vuran Sungur deliveries have been made afaik. Can’t see this being accepted into service as well with that height.

I can see six holes? No?

Middles ones are not launchers.

 

[Saithan]

Good to know those are old pictures. that height and shape is really ugly and seems like one of those badly made photoshop addons that someone usually shares with us

But If possible a humwee size IFV with short range AD system would be nice, like really compact ones that are highly mobile.

 

[Strong AI]

A contract amendment regarding the procurement of air defense missile subsystems has been signed between ASELSAN and ROKETSAN, valuing EUR 59.143.396,- increase in total contract value. Within the context of the contract amendment, the deliveries will be made between the years 2024-2028.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1810276137882284196

 

[Sanchez]

Gürz spotted in the Cyprus victory parade, from today. This must be a show of trust from the cadre.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814612452195131425

 

[Cypro]

Gürz spotted in the Cyprus victory parade, from today. This must be a show of trust from the cadre.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814612452195131425

These came for Defence Industry Exhibition, but surprisingly attended to the parade.

 

[Strong AI]

{#AirDefense}
HİSAR A 150 Short Range Air and Missile Defense System.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1819005834883399842

 

[Sanchez]

ACV-30 like carrier with 4 IRIS-Ts from Kongsberg. Pretty sure it's much more "autonomous" than Hisar-A+

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1818648195972710676

 

[UkroTurk]

ACV-30 like carrier with 4 IRIS-Ts from Kongsberg. Pretty sure it's much more "autonomous" than Hisar-A+

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1818648195972710676

Why more autonomous ?Hisar A has own radar.

Even they don't have VLS

 

[Sanchez]

Why more autonomous ?Hisar A has own radar.
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Even they don't have VLS

Nomads also have a radar. It is also much more mobile, can fire on the move and I bet much less maintenance intensive than Hisar-A with its swivel mount for its launchers. What Hisar have in its advantage is the EO suite however.

 

[UkroTurk]

can fire on the move

Hisar A also can launch missiles while moving.

Hisar A is good.

 

[Anmdt]

Nomads also have a radar. It is also much more mobile, can fire on the move and I bet much less maintenance intensive than Hisar-A with its swivel mount for its launchers. What Hisar have in its advantage is the EO suite however.

All i need to know about Nomads;
Does it float?

 

[Afif]

All i need to know about Nomads;
Does it float?

I didn't realize HISAR A float like Korkut. Does it?

 

[Sanchez]

Hisar A also can launch missiles while moving.

Can it?

I didn't realize HISAR A float like Korkut. Does it?

Nope. It can ford through a meter of water. Korkut with its waterjets is amphibious, Hisar A isn't. It wasn't a requirement and doubt it can being that top heavy.

 

[Strong AI]

Can it?

What does "Protection of Mobile and Mechanized Units" mean to you?

 

[Sanchez]

What does "Protection of Mobile and Mechanized Units" mean to you?

It's a doctrinal usage of the wording, not tactical. Nothing put out there over the last decade suggests Hisar A can fire while moving, not yet at least. Hisar A is not TOR.

 

[UkroTurk]

Gratefully Hisar A is not TOR.