TR Air Defence Programs

[LordAragon]

Turkish layered anti-drone concept is what Ukraine needs at present. As far as I know there is currently no sophiaticated layered system developed by European countries against saturation kamikaze drone attack. Expensive systems like IRIS or NASAMS were not developed for this threat.

• Şahin (up to 700m)
• Korkut twin 35mm mobile (up to 4km)
• Göker single 35mm stationary (up to 4km)
• Sungur Mobile (up to 8km)

+ laser weapons + anti-drone jammers

You sure european has no equivalent? Afaik, turkish systems like korkut is a copy of oerlikon skyshield, skyranger and mantis.
And germany already shown their directed energy weapon way before turkey did.

 

[Zafer]

What about Alka? We did shoot down a Chinese drone with it. It seems to be perfect against these suicide drones.

I am thinking either we are keeping it top secret or the energy usage and kill time is not ideal yet.

Alka is big and bulky at its existing iteration. They are supposed to be making compact versions of it for easier deployment. But still you don't want to deploy such futuristic weapons just anywhere.

 

[AzeriTank]

You sure european has no equivalent? Afaik, turkish systems like korkut is a copy of oerlikon skyshield, skyranger and mantis.
And germany already shown their directed energy weapon way before turkey did.

Germany purchased a Turkish laser chip for more than a million$ from Turkey to test its small laser weapon)

 

[Tsenal]

Germany purchased a Turkish laser chip for more than a million$ from Turkey to test its small laser weapon)

Source?

 

[AzeriTank]

Source?

i watched it in youtube several month or a year ago

 

[Anmdt]

You sure european has no equivalent? Afaik, turkish systems like korkut is a copy of oerlikon skyshield, skyranger and mantis.
And germany already shown their directed energy weapon way before turkey did.

You are missing the whole point, EU does not offer that as a "whole" system, while TR does. EU offers expensive systems to stop cheap kamikaze drones. While TR has Şahin 40mm smart munition system, numerous light EW based drone defences that can be mounted even on 4x4s or Toyotas.

Also, SPAAG is a concept from WWII, no doubts TR was adopting smart munition (AHEAD) or replicating the tech, however if you did little search TAF also evaluated Mantis in the program and then opted for upgrade of Oerlikon GDFs and mount the cannons on tracked platforms to maximize efficiency in finances, logistics, adaptability by little trade-off in the performance (2 cannons instead of 1, even provides an increase in survivability if a cannon fails unexpectedly)

If i recall, Skyshield / Skyranger / Mantis (without missiles) is a very expensive system and Korkut does the same amount of the work with an onboard FCR with1/3th (wo FCR on skyranger) or less cost.

Should i state the fact both Korkut and laser systems met battlefield long before than German systems even proven at the battlefield?. We all have seen Ukrainians complaining about how "ineffective" PzH2000 with involved complexity and maintenance while Polish systems were easy to maintain and operate. Probably same would apply for this SPAAG too.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Ikinci: "SIPER will be our high-altitude long-range air defense system. The works are almost finished. It will be in the inventory of the TAF very soon"

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Ikinci: "The tests of the SUNGUR MANPADS system, which is thrown from the shoulder, have been completed, mass production continues.It has a range of 8.5 km."

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Siper Blk2 firing trials will start in 2023

Türkiye yeni milli mühimmatlarını göreve hazırlıyor

Türk savunma sanayisi, Cumhuriyetin 100. yılında kullanılmaya başlanacak yeni milli mühimmat çözümleriyle güvenlik güçlerine güç katacak. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[Combat-Master]

Mr Ikinci: "The tests of the SUNGUR MANPADS system, which is thrown from the shoulder, have been completed, mass production continues.It has a range of 8.5 km."

He also says, 4.5km altitude which is another 500 meters over what the brochure states SUNGURs altitude is.

 

[Combat-Master]

SIPERs radar is on display with a new BMC vehicle mockup.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Siper AKR radar

 

[Fighter_35]

SIPERs radar is on display with a new BMC vehicle mockup.
View attachment 49428

This one is handsome. This also can be used for ballistic missile launcher platform

 

[Siper>MMU]

Siper AKR radar
View attachment 49430

This one has 4 datalink antennas which is new I guess

 

[Combat-Master]

HISAR Family now officially NAVAL capable

 

[Heartbang]

HISAR Family now officially NAVAL capable
View attachment 49438

can we quadpack these into the I class?

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585982217188057088

MKE CIWS project firing tests

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Turkish layered anti-drone concept is what Ukraine needs at present. As far as I know there is currently no sophiaticated layered system developed by European countries against saturation kamikaze drone attack. Expensive systems like IRIS or NASAMS were not developed for this threat.

• Şahin (up to 700m)
• Korkut twin 35mm mobile (up to 4km)
• Göker single 35mm stationary (up to 4km)
• Sungur Mobile (up to 8km)

+ laser weapons + anti-drone jammers

What is the difference between Korkut, and Goker in Characteristics?

 

[Anmdt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585982217188057088

MKE CIWS project firing tests

There is a lot to do, i would love to see its reaction speed from rest position to engagement.

 

[Anmdt]

What is the difference between Korkut, and Goker in Characteristics?

Rate of fire, amount of ammunition stored, onboard FCR.