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Mr Ismail Demir "Our Siper will be put into service but there will be a system chain that develops by increasing the various capabilities we call as Siper Block 0, Block 1, Block 2 and Block 3"
 

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Can you mention the different specs? I remember that Korkut can fire 1100 rounds per minute.
@Combat-Master also told in Naval progmams thread, it is less than 35mm oerlikon, so should be between 150-250.

Korkut has dual barrel, each can sustain 550.

Possibly Korhan's ready to fire munition amount is less than Korkut's too.

Both can use same munitions.

So, @Combat-Master how likely it is to use Korhan's turret on USVs? Can they automatize reloading process?
 

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The Ukrainian invasion shows that even mini drones can be really dangerous against both infantry and vehicles. Do we have something against them ? I mean for bases we have Sahin and Ihtar. However, is there any solution on squad level where soldier can use when they are on operation on mountains? Apart from anti-drone rifle? Or can there be and effective system?
 

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The Ukrainian invasion shows that even mini drones can be really dangerous against both infantry and vehicles. Do we have something against them ? I mean for bases we have Sahin and Ihtar. However, is there any solution on squad level where soldier can use when they are on operation on mountains? Apart from anti-drone rifle? Or can there be and effective system?
system like korkut should be excellent against mini UAVs.
 

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The Ukrainian invasion shows that even mini drones can be really dangerous against both infantry and vehicles. Do we have something against them ? I mean for bases we have Sahin and Ihtar. However, is there any solution on squad level where soldier can use when they are on operation on mountains? Apart from anti-drone rifle? Or can there be and effective system?
Aselsan's backpack jammer should offer protection againts civilian grade ones at least.Army has been using them for a long time.
 

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The Ukrainian invasion shows that even mini drones can be really dangerous against both infantry and vehicles. Do we have something against them ? I mean for bases we have Sahin and Ihtar. However, is there any solution on squad level where soldier can use when they are on operation on mountains? Apart from anti-drone rifle? Or can there be and effective system?
As Canik is to produce 30x113 cal Auto-cannons, soon we may see such vehicles.
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Or like these
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waste of money....


a airbust round is a must, how many bullet are you going to use to hit the small drone?

Who said 30x113mm cal Auto-cannons just use HE or AP rounds?

The gun on the above picture uses programmable smart " airburst" ammunitions. Those aren't Apache helis ammunitions.
The vehicle also has AESA plates which calculate distance and detonation time
Americans go for 30x113 rather than 20 mm gatling, why? Because large volume of bullet allows puting a fuse .
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Indeed airburst ammunitions are waste of money if they aren't programmable.

Old gen airbursts can't be programmed automaticly subject to distance of target.
 
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Actually my question is for the soldiers on operation against pkk, they mostly fighting on the mountains and don't have much vehicle support.

A system should be developed to use a 5.56 handheld machine gun in an automated fashion. Like a helmet mounted tracking device detects a drone and directs the soldier to point the gun in the proximate direction. The gun then can be made to align itself freely in the soldiers hand for precision targeting. With the addition of some AI the soldier practically becomes a CIWS carrier. Just dreaming.
 
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A system should be developed to use a 5.56 handheld machine gun in an automated fashion. Like a helmet worn tracking device detects a drone and directs the soldier to point the gun in the proximate direction. The gun then can be made to align itself freely in the soldiers hand for precision targeting. With the addition of some AI the soldier practically becomes a CIWS carrier. Just dreaming.
just use robots?
 

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A system should be developed to use a 5.56 handheld machine gun in an automated fashion. Like a helmet mounted tracking device detects a drone and directs the soldier to point the gun in the proximate direction. The gun then can be made to align itself freely in the soldiers hand for precision targeting. With the addition of some AI the soldier practically becomes a CIWS carrier. Just dreaming.
How about a glass that direct the weapon? but the problem is its expensive these days so it has to be protected in a armed vehicle now
 
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hOW about a glass that direct the weapon? but the problem is its expensive these days so it has to be protected in a armed vehicle now
What do you mean "glass"?
If you mean optics it is part of the helmet mounted tracking device.
 

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What do you mean "glass"?
If you mean optics it is part of the helmet mounted tracking device.
It needs to turn to track it which will make it heavy and complicated, its not easy to have heavy helmet on. instead, put it on drone and no heat signature
 
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A system should be developed to use a 5.56 handheld machine gun in an automated fashion. Like a helmet mounted tracking device detects a drone and directs the soldier to point the gun in the proximate direction. The gun then can be made to align itself freely in the soldiers hand for precision targeting. With the addition of some AI the soldier practically becomes a CIWS carrier. Just dreaming.
AK rounds don't have the range for this but using programmable airburst grenade launcher this would actually work really well. No need to have a separate head mounted display, you can just use a digital sight on the weapon itself. These already exist. Soldier holds down the trigger and aims the weapon where the sight tells him to, and when its in the right spot it shoots. And when the soldier isn't shooting drones the grenade launcher still functions like normal - he's not carrying useless weight everywhere in case a drone is overhead.
 

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