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Good luck with your slow drones( MANPADSbait ) that would be blocked and jammed over battle in case of EW. Or you wouldn't fight against an Army that had this technology? Would your enemies be just African tribes?

Vice versa i offered relatively cheaper and ground attack aircraft rather than Hürjet.
According to you Hürkuş -C should be BS.
It can also play a fighter role against low maneuver but long endurance high-altitude drones. Almost every air force in the world tends to solve ISTAR roles as well as some armed air support roles with UAVs more and more. While these systems offer significant advantages in terms of sustainment cost and endurance, they are very vulnerable to airborne threats with current typical payloads climbing capabilities and AoE. So It can be a tank destroyer, as well as nightmare to all rotary wing systems and piston/prop UCAVs.
 

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There's no harm in dreaming but it’s harmful not to dream.😁

@dBSPL you said well "ISTAR"




Even this has unmanned module!!!





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I want baby Hürjets

I quit....
 
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The tweet was deleted. We should, maybe, not read too much into it. I watched some of the interview. I guess the poster of the tweet has paraphrased Güler's words "Yapıcaz. Yapıcaz." at 17:03 in the video(I timestamped it).


The defense minister says in part of the interview that they will acquire additional A400Ms. (26:30)
 

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Minister of National Defense Yasar Guler announced that there may be additional A400M transport aircraft procurement for the Turkish Air Force.


Not enough. C-160 and C-130 are at retirement age. They both need to be replaced by a new aircraft as well as further orders for A400M.

Our Logistic and Transport Wing is lacking immensely.

We need C-130J/C-390 AND further A400M.

What we actually need are C-17s but that train is long gone.
 

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Not enough. C-160 and C-130 are at retirement age. They both need to be replaced by a new aircraft as well as further orders for A400M.

Our Logistic and Transport Wing is lacking immensely.

We need C-130J/C-390 AND further A400M.

What we actually need are C-17s but that train is long gone.
I doubt the US would deliver to US C-17, also important are the Airbus A-330 MRTT.
 

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Could be talks for approximately 30-40 military aircraft, including for MRTT conversion kits, additional A400Ms and perhaps even long-range MPA and AEWs. These are already in the scope of needs, some urgent and some medium term. If you add THY's mega purchase to this, there seems to be significant leverage both to multiply the industrial participation in the Airbus ecosystem and to attract RR to an special investment here. I hope we will use it.
 

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Minister of National Defense Yasar Güler announced that additional Airbus A400Ms can be supplied to the Turkish Air Force.

The A400M fleet, consisting of 10 aircraft in the Turkish Air Force fleet, has completed more than 15,000 flight hours.

Türkiye also became a partner in the Airbus A400M Atlas program in 2003. A400M is an OCCAR (Organization for Joint Armament Cooperation) project. Türkiye is not a member of OCCAR, but is a project partner country.

Although it was planned to purchase 26 aircraft for the Turkish Air Force in 2003, the final procurement amount was determined as 10 aircraft and within this framework, a contract worth 1.496 billion euros was signed.

 

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When there are talks about the Eurofighter Typhoon and now interest for more A400M let's add couple A330MRTT to complete the bundle.

Note: As far as i remember there were plans that ASFAT on behalf of MSB will pick 7 Airbus A330-200 with the lowest flight hours from THY's inventory and turn them into tanker aircraft (MRTT) with assitance of Airbus. It was expected that the works will be carried out in the 2nd Air Supply and Maintenance Center (Kayseri).

The 2nd Air Supply and Maintenance Center was previously also known as TOMTAS. After all those orders for commercial aircrafts, modernization/maintenance agreements with Airbus and national aerospace programms we can expect that most of the structural manufacturing will take place in Kayseri, this also explains why TUSAS and ASFAT decided to revive TOMTAS.
 

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One question: only the F-16 Block 50/50+ will be upgraded to Block 70, the remaining F-16 Block 30/40 will get the Özgür package, the equivalent of Block 70, right?
40 New F-16 Block 70 Aircrafts
79 Block 70 Upgrade Kits, how many Block 50/50+ have we totally?
 

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One question: only the F-16 Block 50/50+ will be upgraded to Block 70, the remaining F-16 Block 30/40 will get the Özgür package, the equivalent of Block 70, right?
40 New F-16 Block 70 Aircrafts
79 Block 70 Upgrade Kits, how many Block 50/50+ have we totally?
I don’t think comparing özgür upgrade to block 70 is right.
 

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I don’t think comparing özgür upgrade to block 70 is right.
Nope, Ozgur and B70 very well be comparable, not now of course but in the very near future. It all comes down performance of the Murad radar. If Murad is as good as advertised it becomes, ozgür will be even more useful for us than B70.

Then why not we upgrade all our f16s to özgür? We simply dont have the source codes of other f16s. We need permission from US and LM for necessary kits and source codes for our B40 and B50. We can not go ahead and upgrade other F16s unless we burn the bridges with them. Also it would be very difficult and time consuming task.
 
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