TR Aircraft Carrier and Amphibious Ship Programs

[Rodeo]

TCG Anadolu, LIT UP!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1645252419822010368

 

[Sanchez]

We haven't heard about LCACs for Anadolu for years at this point. Any updates?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

President ERDOĞAN: “We talked to different countries to build a real Aircraft Carrier, we are still in talks.”

 

[TR_123456]

Without a proper carrier group ready, by which I mean multiple TF2000s on top of frigates, it would be a colossal waste of money and time

Takes a decade to build an AC.

 

[boredaf]

By the time that TCG Uçak Gemisi is ready, we will probably have something around 8 TF-2000s lol

Not with the cost of an aircraft carrier we wouldn't.

 

[Bogeyman]

President Erdogan: “We are increasing our defense industry budget to $75 billion.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1645400325350629378

I think Erdogan is talking about an additional $15 billion budget for the Defense Industry. The current total size was said to be $60 billion.

 

[Afif]

If we consider the strategic logic, in the near future Turkey is not in a need for full flegde CSG. As its advantageous geographic position between three continents makes it almost like an unsinkable carrier.

But more importantly, Turkey doesn't have any oversea treaty allies or territories to protect.

In my opinion, it would be a better choice to invest the same money in development of medium size SSN like baracuda. A fleet of 4/6 SSN would give Turkey much more effective and credible deterrence against conventionally and numerically superior adversaries, like superpowers.

@dBSPL @Sanchez et al. What do you guys think?

 

[TR_123456]

If we consider the strategic logic, in the near future Turkey is not in a need for full flegde CSG. As its advantageous geographic position between three continents makes it almost like an unsinkable carripoper.

But more importantly, Turkey doesn't have any oversea treaty allies or territories to protect.

In my opinion, it would be a better choice to invest the same money in development of medium size SSN like baracuda. A fleet of 4/6 SSN would give Turkey much more effective and credible deterrence against conventionally and numerically superior adversaries, like a superpower.

@dBSPL @Sanchez et al. What do you guys think?

Somalia,Libya,Azerbaijan,Qatar,KKTC(Northern Cyrus),New African Allies etc.

 

[Afif]

Somalia,Libya,Azerbaijan,Qatar,KKTC(Northern Cyrus),New African Allies etc.

Tbh, only Azerbaijan and Cyprus actually counts. And to protect them Turkey doesn't need CSG at all.

I mean, how to do gonna send a carrier strike gourd into Caspian sea?

And when it comes to Cyprus, a CSG would be an overkill.
As the opposite coastlines of the Mediterranean and Aegean seas are well within the range of Turkish air force and its stand-off missiles, as I said Turkey itself like an unsinkable Aircraft carrier thanks to its geographic location.

And even better, Turkey could develop some airbases in Cyprus, which would give TurAF even wider combat radius deep into Middle east and North Africa.

And when it comes to developing credible blue water capability for medium powers like Turkey, a fleet of modern SSN would be more crucial step than aircraft carrier.

Of course, I am not suggesting to abandon the idea of CSG, rather I am saying it should be the second priority after SSN.

 

[TR_123456]

Tbh, only Azerbaijan and Cyprus actually counts. And to protect them Turkey doesn't need CSG at all.

I mean, how to do gonna send a carrier strike gourd into Caspian sea?

And when it comes to Cyprus, a CSG would be a overkill. The other coast of the Mediterranean is well within range of Turkish air force and stand-off missiles, as I said Turkey itself like an unsinkable Aircraft carrier thanks to its geographic location.

And even better, Turkey could develop some airbases in Cyprus, which would give TurAF even wider combat radius.

And how will we have a blue Navy which is the goal?
Its like you saying,invest in education instead of defence,doesnt make sense for a country like mine.

 

[Afif]

And how will we have a blue Navy which is the goal?
Its like you saying,invest in education instead of defence,doesnt make sense for a country like mine.

With all due respect, A fleet of capable SSN is more crucial to develop true blue water capability than aircraft carriers, specially for medium powers like Turkey.

 

[Lool]

We officially put the world's first SİHA ship, TCG Anadolu, into service today. I would like to thank everyone who made us live this picture of pride and contributed to this great success. Congratulations

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1645411319577985024

 

[TR_123456]

With all due respect, A fleet of capable SSN is more crucial to develop true blue water capability than aircraft carriers, specially for medium powers like Turkey.

So,why do france,UK, Italy and even Brasil have them?

 

[boredaf]

So,why do france,UK, Italy and even Brasil have them?

Different countries have different needs, he is right we really don't need an aircraft carrier at all, especially not while there are a lot more urgent and critical projects that we should focus our time and budget on. Trying to project power on the other side of the planet is a fool's errand while our power is being challenged in our region and a carrier is completely over the top and unnecessary for our needs for a long time.

 

[Sanchez]

So,why do france,UK, Italy and even Brasil have them?

France and Italy do have blue water navies. Brazil's is more of a tradition from Minas Gerais and they currently do not have a fixed wing carrier. Ex Ocean Atlantico is a helicopter carrier.

 

[TR_123456]

Different countries have different needs, he is right we really don't need an aircraft carrier at all, especially not while there are a lot more urgent and critical projects that we should focus our time and budget on. Trying to project power on the other side of the planet is a fool's errand while our power is being challenged in our region and a carrier is completely over the top and unnecessary for our needs for a long time.

As i said before,it takes at least a decade,nobody is talking about the near future(4/7 years).
The main focus should be independence first,engines,chips,defence platforms etc.

 

[TR_123456]

France and Italy do have blue water navies. Brazil's is more of a tradition from Minas Gerais and they currently do not have a fixed wing carrier. Ex Ocean Atlantico is a helicopter carrier.

Brasil had the Sao paulo,decommissioned in 2018.

 

[I_Love_F16]

So,why do france,UK, Italy and even Brasil have them?

France and the UK have islands in other side of the planet, hence why they have AC's, to be able to protect their overseas territories, and even then they have troubles maintaining these, but why Turkiye ? The Navy is in need of frigates, but no, let's build a big ass aircraft carrier that will cost us billions just to maintain it. Doest't make any sense to be completely honest. We don't know how to manage our priorities. We just like to show off.

 

[Sanchez]

Brasil had the Sao paulo,decommissioned in 2018.

Sao Paolo was hardly active for the last 10-15 years. They only kept it operating to keep the pilot and flight deck personnel experiences alive. They've been looking to build a new one for the last 30 years and in the last decade they talked about getting French help to build one based on CdG for 2040s but those never bore fruit. They have no projects as of now with the rate of their economy, which may or may not be a tale to learn from for us.

 

[TR_123456]

Sao Paolo was hardly active for the last 10-15 years. They only kept it operating to keep the pilot and flight deck personnel experiences alive. They've been looking to build a new one for the last 30 years and in the last decade they talked about getting French help to build one based on CdG for 2040s but those never bore fruit. They have no projects as of now with the rate of their economy, which may or may not be a tale to learn from for us.

You understand that it was only about the point(middle powers with AC's) being made,right?