TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

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Thermally Modulated Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries
This is a new battery technology being developed. 10 minute charge, no adverse effects of li-ion or li-hydride or li-polymer batteries. Much cheaper longer life (expected to last 2 million miles). It does not catch fire. And most importantly much lighter. Still in development stage. But a solution to current shortcomings of rechargeable batteries.
Then there is Tesla’s 4680 Battery. This is a revolution in it self.

So the Technology is there to use. It is up to us if we want to get on the band wagon or not!
We should definitely try a hybrid electrodiesel power train for our tanks at this time.
Tanks are indispensable war machines of the battlefields. They will evolve and be there for quite a few decades yet. Especially with the newer and more effective active/passive protection systems. Their drivetrain is going to evolve in to first dieselelectric hybrid power; Then Hydrogen fuel cell electric power. We have to start using these new technologies.
Some of these battery tech are at R&D stage with lower TRL levels. They will probably be commercialized one day but not just yet. We can still put some batteries in the power mix of our propulsion systems but in relatively small dozes to be increased over time. We can only look at what our Aspilsan can make today or in the process of making in the short term. The video below offers some hints.

 

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We should make a new tank with a different name!
Based on the ALTAY prototypes.. AKTAY!
 

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Does Roketsan get armour tech from IBD?
Technology is being transferred from China for the armor of the Altay tank. ETİ Maden Boron Carbide Plant is being built in Bandırma district of Balıkesir.
 

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Does Roketsan get armour tech from IBD?
Greek newspapers are now well used to the conspiracy. There is no evidence in their claims. They just think the armor is alike. In Altay, three-layer armor developed by Roketsan, RHA, Composite and ERA, will be used. Of these, only ERA may have received support from Ukraine in armor.
 
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French engine is so bad that UAE took MTU engine for their Leclerc tank.
Ukraine and Russia, non has 1500hp engine, thats why they dont use much protection. also the size of engine is bigger to German ones.
USA use jet engine that use 4 times more fuel, and high heat signature.
only Germany developed 1500hp engine with transmission in the world so far with high reliability...
But i think, as Turkey is going to test its 1000hp engine with Transmission and 1500hp engine this year, it will be soled after loosing years thanks to Germans...
i think batteries might not be suitable with tanks as after every shoot it shakes a lot... also putting them under also means it will be damaged after any mine explosion. Also hybrid is the way to go, it has high tork from 0 that super important for tanks.. also fuel economy and silent operations with batteries only in case of need...

The French MBT engine is probably suited to a certain climate and not so much for the dry and hot climates often observed in the UAE or neighbouring countries.

Both the Ukraine and Russia offer 1500 hp or more powerful MBT engines.

KMDB design bureau of Ukraine offers the 6TD-3 diesel engine. Turkish authorities have expressed interest in that engine, too.

The latest Russian MBT T-14 Armata is powered by a (theoretical) 2,000 hp engine. Of course, operating at 2,000 hp would mean the life of the engine would be shortened.

The AVDS-1790 engine, also able to generate 1500 hp, offered by L3 Harris in the United States and originally developed by Continental Motors, is not exactly a novelty. It has been used in quite a few armoured vehicles and howitzers, too.

I suspect the Chinese, too, would have developed land vehicle engines able to generate 1500 hp. Perhaps, the Chinese brand name, or "Made in China" label would not be as highly reputable as some other well established brands from other countries and perhaps, there is a good and justifiable reason for that, too.

However, there is no mythical or mysterious knowledge or expertise required to develop and/or manufacture 1,500 hp engines for land vehicles or transmissions for the same.

Internal combustion engines are old technologies. More than a century old, those technologies have been mastered by numerous European countries (or countries where their descendants are numerous) and subsequently, acquired by East Asian countries, too.
 

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The French MBT engine is probably suited to a certain climate and not so much for the dry and hot climates often observed in the UAE or neighbouring countries.

Both the Ukraine and Russia offer 1500 hp or more powerful MBT engines.

KMDB design bureau of Ukraine offers the 6TD-3 diesel engine. Turkish authorities have expressed interest in that engine, too.

The latest Russian MBT T-14 Armata is powered by a (theoretical) 2,000 hp engine. Of course, operating at 2,000 hp would mean the life of the engine would be shortened.

The AVDS-1790 engine, also able to generate 1500 hp, offered by L3 Harris in the United States and originally developed by Continental Motors, is not exactly a novelty. It has been used in quite a few armoured vehicles and howitzers, too.

I suspect the Chinese, too, would have developed land vehicle engines able to generate 1500 hp. Perhaps, the Chinese brand name, or "Made in China" label would not be as highly reputable as some other well established brands from other countries and perhaps, there is a good and justifiable reason for that, too.

However, there is no mythical or mysterious knowledge or expertise required to develop and/or manufacture 1,500 hp engines for land vehicles or transmissions for the same.

Internal combustion engines are old technologies. More than a century old, those technologies have been mastered by numerous European countries (or countries where their descendants are numerous) and subsequently, acquired by East Asian countries, too.
as you are able to see, i said reliable engine with transmission, those two makes huge differene...
Ukraine makes 1200hp engine, with big volume, also not a reliable transmission.
dont really listen to what Russia says, give attention to what they do... if they got 1500hp engine then why they suited their new tank with 1200hp powered engine? it doesnt make sense. iam probably the only one here who speak Russian and being from Azerbaijan saw t90(we got 100 of them) and all other Russian tanks. they dont even have laser warning system which is obsolete these days. it flares up after the first antitank missile hit, without knowing that its coming. as Karabakh is mountain area, super slow to go up or be used in attack. it was like sitting duck. thats why our forces couldn't even use their tanks in the war. just imagine thats t90 use french thermal camera, Russia doesn't even have thermal camera production..
Also, you are not able to use Russian engine with German transmission. they need to be specifically designed to be used together. Korea had that problem. but because of it was their own engine, they redesigned it, but imagine if you purchase it? basically Korean engine was tested and was working good, same with Renk German transmission, but when they were integrated, both destroyed each other from first initiation. head of Turkish main engine producer TEI, talked about this Korean experience today..
 

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