Azerbaijan Armenia Tensions

[Saithan]

I repeat, if there is "compensation" in Syria for this agreement then it is acceptable and maybe more useful for Turkey, we should know it soon.

No, no compensation in Syria would be lasting.

I do not understand why Aliyev said yes to this. Why Turkey who probably went through this deal as well didn't do something.

 

[Deliorman]

I repeat, if there is "compensation" in Syria for this agreement then it is acceptable and maybe more useful for Turkey, we should know it soon.

Don’t be naive. You can’t negotiate and trust the Russians. You can’t expect them to be fair or to give you any compensation. Haven’t you guys learned it throughout the history and seeing how things go in Syria? The only language they understand is Strength.

Aliyev didn’t chicken out... he is just a corrupt KGB puppet from an old ComParty clan- he will do whatever his bosses in Moscow tell him 99 out of 100 times.
Unless we see a Turkish force next to the Russian peacekeepers and even a Turkish base in Azerbaijan I can’t call that a fair deal in any way for the Azerbaijan people.

ps This whole operation was with Russian consent and it’s whole mission was to topple Pashinyan and the growing pro-Western and democratic force in Armenia itself.

 

[Quasar]

There will be no capture of Hankendi though, its under Russian umbrella now.

I have a very bad feeling about this. so the biggest city and the ''capital'' of the artifical entity is now under Russian umbrella?

 

[Nilgiri]

ps This whole operation was with Russian consent and it’s whole mission was to topple Pashinyan and the growing pro-Western and democratic force in Armenia itself.

Bingo.

 

[mulj]

Don’t be naive. You can’t negotiate and trust the Russians. You can’t expect them to be fair or to give you any compensation. Haven’t you guys learned it throughout the history and seeing how things go in Syria? The only language they understand is Strength.

Aliyev didn’t chicken out... he is just a corrupt KGB puppet from an old ComParty clan- he will do whatever his bosses in Moscow tell him 99 out of 100 times.
Unless we see a Turkish force next to the Russian peacekeepers and even a Turkish base in Azerbaijan I can’t call that a fair deal in any way for the Azerbaijan people.

ps This whole operation was with Russian consent and it’s whole mission was to topple Pashinyan and the growing pro-Western and democratic force in Armenia itself.

Valid points in principle but Putin-Erdogan dynamic is strange and that is where I lay my hopes for short term period of time. If that happens in Syria, that would be huge relief for your domestic issues both in pkk threat and refugee situation.

 

[Reviewbrah]

I hope we see a study of intelligence and tunnel warfare done by Armenia. It was very ineffective.

Even PKK used tunnels much effective in Syria even while Turkish intelligence knew locations of almost all of them.

 

[mulj]

I hope we see a study of intelligence and tunnel warfare done by Armenia. It was very ineffective.

Even PKK used tunnels much effective in Syria even while Turkish intelligence knew locations of almost all of them.

Pkk tunnel system was supported by cement factory Lafarz or something liked that, concrete with steel nets are far more superior then trenches dig in by soviet front rule of conduct

 

[Bayraktar TB2]

Good plan where Turkey increases its influence and PR over Azerbaijan. Now has a opportunity for opening up to Armenia and got a economic corridor secured directly to Azerbaijan. Lol.. All part of Russian plan right .. Idlib is not comparable we have no legal ground to be there and the areas are controlled by rebels. Just give Turkey a base in Azerbaijan like the Russian basein Armenia we are all set.

 

[Bayraktar TB2]

Winner: Azerbaijan, Turkey and Russia in that order
Loosers: Armenia and Iran

 

[Saithan]

Winner: Azerbaijan, Turkey and Russia in that order
Loosers: Armenia and Iran

I'll keep my joy in check until I know Turkey is going to have a base in Azerbaycan.

 

[Bayraktar TB2]

I'll keep my joy in check until I know Turkey is going to have a base in Azerbaycan.

Troops and f16s are already there just need to formalise it

 

[Reviewbrah]

Good plan where Turkey increases its influence and PR over Azerbaijan. Now has a opportunity for opening up to Armenia and got a economic corridor secured directly to Azerbaijan. Lol.. All part of Russian plan right .. Idlib is not comparable we have no legal ground to be there and the areas are controlled by rebels. Just give Turkey a base in Azerbaijan like the Russian basein Armenia we are all set.

Only way Russia can keep its influence in Caucasus and central Asia is military power. If Turkey had a robust economy and diplomacy, even without military presence, Russians wouldn't be able to keep up. Best thing they could do is refuse to import tomatoes or prevent Turkish soap operas playing in the TV.

 

[Nilgiri]

An idea of how its being reported in western Media:

 

[500]

Wait, I know it shows a land corridor, but as I understand from the treaty Azerbaycan own's Lacin, which means the corridor will pass through Azerbaycan's land in a way like Nakcivan's connection with Azerbaycan. So it's vice verse, right ?

* The whole road from Lachin to Xankendi will be under Russian control.
* Nakcivan's connection with Azerbaycan will be under Armenian control but they agree to provide free passage and protection. The entrance to this passage will be under Russian customs control.

Overall before the war Armenia had full control on NK + 7 provinces.

Now Armenians got a Bantustan on half of NK territory with Russian guards.

This Bantustan wont last for too long. 5-10-15 years max.

 

[Saithan]

* The whole road from Lachin to Xankendi will be under Russian control.
* Nakcivan's connection with Azerbaycan will be under Armenian control but they agree to provide free passage and protection. The entrance to this passage will be under Russian customs control.

Overall before the war Armenia had full control on NK + 7 provinces.

Now Armenians got a Bantustan on half of NK territory with Russian guards.

This Bantustan wont last for too long. 5-10-15 years max.

Cool, thanks. I think soldiers on the ground quickly and taking up positions is very important to shape the outcome according to Azerbaycan's wishes.

But Russia already rushed in because they were prepared and knew what they wanted to do. TSK and Azerbaycan are way too slow and late to react.

I hope Susa stays as Azerbaycan military bastion location with beefed up troop presence.

 

[guest_07]

Winner: Azerbaijan, Turkey and Russia in that order
Loosers: Armenia and Iran

How about France?
(OSCE Minsk member)

 

[Saithan]

How about France?
(OSCE Minsk member)

they will work towards some sort of international recognition of the new map.

I don't imagine France will spend anymore time on lost battles. They'll move on to next field.

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1326137890649280512

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1326141266418151427

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1326152565680168960

Let’s see if TSK is going to be at those places.

My backup plan. China style surveillance system. UAV patrols and walls.

 

[Saithan]

Turkey praises Azerbaijan on Karabakh victory - Türkiye News

Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has congratulated Azerbaijan on liberating occupied territories, calling a deal on Nagorno-Karabakh a “great victory” for Baku.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com