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Oh I almost forgot, my Bosnian friend who was in the sector where the fighting Croats ( I was in Serb sector) told me how Turkish guy in 5 minutes, alone , killed 9 Croats. I am sure that Turkish guy didn't share your political views, because people with your political views didn't do shit for us. At the end of day , why would day? Why would they help us as it is not something close to their cause ? That cause I will describe very simply, The West is the possession of the ultimate truth so it is worthwhile to follow it despite periodical hostilities towards you. Well let me tell you pal , neither you nor the west are in the possession of any significant truth .
Lol, did I touch a nerve. Just as you seem to have an impression of me. I have one of you too. Pro AKP, clapping your hands over AKP inviting refugees to Turkey. In short psudo fetocu. Your view aligning with mhp people you spoke of seems pretty much to confirm that. Afterall MHP is just as responsible for AKP policies as AKP itself.

btw you couldn’t be anymore wrong about me though. Wanna try again ?
 

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I think that you dont even have viable education to understand what I am saying . At no point I supported any refugees in Turkey whatsoever it is pretty clear from my posts , so you are a liar or have no ability to comprehend what I write. If you think that I support refugees please quote me on that, will you? As matter of the fact it is one of my chritics of AKP . Also everyone view at some point can alligne with somebody's. As pseudo Feto can you explain me what exactly I write thar is similar to that ? Can you quote me on that? Or it is just another slander , usually you dabb in that anyway.
At the end of the day , what is your original massage? Apart from pettiness and childishness there is nothing in it , is it related to the given subject? Obviously not , so obviously you were waiting for some kind of answer because in some other subjects I touched your nerve.
Obviously this subject matters for me and someone can read from above why, your feeling of elation tells me beside alread mentioned view of you I can add another one , in Bosnia we use a Turkish word for that SOYSUZ
 

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As of Stingers , well they should given us some of it when the planes from Serbia flew 1995 and bombed us infront or Banja Luka despite No Fly Zone.
That never happened,stop lying.
 

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That never happened,stop lying.
Really? You have been there in 1995 ?
As for your part of Brits and nlaws I can swallow that, at least during the war Brits turned a blind eye on weapons smuggling. It was a secret policy and in charge of that was a captain with let's say strange background. Nevertheless it costed him his career. As of Yenkee bums , to hell with them and their help
 
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Really? You have been there in 1995 ?
Nope I was in Gorazde.But I know for a fact that planes from Serbia did not bomb ARBIH positions "infront of Banja Luka"(whatever that is supposed to mean btw) in 1995.
It wasn't the Brits that turned a blind eye to the occasional weapons delivery but US.The sky over Bosnia was controlled by USAF.You really think Iranian cargo planes were landing on Visoko airport for months without US noticing them?Or that the munition Iranian ships were bringing to Croatia(1994-1995) was done without US knowledge and permission?
For someone who claims to have been there you seem to have a lot of your facts backward.

So now you suggest that we should refuse US offering us Stinger and Javelin,Serbia is spending millions on tanks,armored carriers,planes,drones and helicopters,while we only have m4 rifles and m60 machine guns?What a great idea,Alija Izetbegovic(the biggest traitor in Bosnian history) would be so proud of you.
 
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Not good. There is a big potential in Serbia for Wagner. Serbia is the logistic center of Russian special services operations on the Balkans and also the command center for the pro-Russian paramilitary forces on the Balkans.

They will probably create a recruitment and training center of Wagner and this way will ease the procedure of training for their paramilitary force. With the current model training and management is done mainly by GRU and the training quality is bad as there is no chance of large unconventional warfare specialist teams operating in the target countries and also creating of decent training facilities enabling firearms training. It is more of a formal, ideological training that is being given under the close surveillance of the host country's counter-intelligence services by individual instructors which is not enough.

With the creating of such a center there will basically no limit in what kind of training they can give to their paramilitary force. With organizational restructuring and the proper recruitment procedure of their paramilitary forces also tracking of such high risk individuals will be made harder. With the unlimited resource, recruitment and training potential this Wagner center will have an easy access to locals and that way the work of the Russian special services will be made easier and more complex and covert guerilla force network can be established which can be a game changer when it comes to professional capabilities, access to target countries, efficient establishment of clandestine cells with fault tolerant systems which are able to replace important figures within the organization fast if the target country tightens control and decide to target HVTs.

Wagner can be a very good tool in making this operation deniable by getting away from the usual operation models conducted under official cover. The Wagner "Orly" center could take the role of the Russian embassy in Serbia and by doing this it will also make the work of enemy intelligence harder.
 

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Not good. There is a big potential in Serbia for Wagner. Serbia is the logistic center of Russian special services operations on the Balkans and also the command center for the pro-Russian paramilitary forces on the Balkans.

They will probably create a recruitment and training center of Wagner and this way will ease the procedure of training for their paramilitary force. With the current model training and management is done mainly by GRU and the training quality is bad as there is no chance of large unconventional warfare specialist teams operating in the target countries and also creating of decent training facilities enabling firearms training. It is more of a formal, ideological training that is being given under the close surveillance of the host country's counter-intelligence services by individual instructors which is not enough.

With the creating of such a center there will basically no limit in what kind of training they can give to their paramilitary force. With organizational restructuring and the proper recruitment procedure of their paramilitary forces also tracking of such high risk individuals will be made harder. With the unlimited resource, recruitment and training potential this Wagner center will have an easy access to locals and that way the work of the Russian special services will be made easier and more complex and covert guerilla force network can be established which can be a game changer when it comes to professional capabilities, access to target countries, efficient establishment of clandestine cells with fault tolerant systems which are able to replace important figures within the organization fast if the target country tightens control and decide to target HVTs.

Wagner can be a very good tool in making this operation deniable by getting away from the usual operation models conducted under official cover. The Wagner "Orly" center could take the role of the Russian embassy in Serbia and by doing this it will also make the work of enemy intelligence harder.
I see it as a blessing in disguise.With them operating in Serbia US and UK will for sure speed up the equiping of Bosnian armed forces(new helicopters,Stingers,Javelins and NLAW's are already announced) and hopefully allow formation of Kosovo army,which will pave the way for Kosovo forces finally arming itself properly(with atleast some heavy weaponry).
 

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I see it as a blessing in disguise.With them operating in Serbia US and UK will for sure speed up the equiping of Bosnian armed forces(new helicopters,Stingers,Javelins and NLAW's are already announced) and hopefully allow formation of Kosovo army,which will pave the way for Kosovo forces finally arming itself properly(with atleast some heavy weaponry).
Maintaining political stability is crucial on the Balkans. As in any other such operation Russian special services are using political instability as a fuel to their operation. The best measure is the preventive measure.

The best way of preventing an irreversible escalation that leads to an armed conflict is working intelligence/counter-intelligence service, doing what's necessary for internal political balance and sustaining of diplomatic dialogue.
 

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Maintaining political stability is crucial on the Balkans. As in any other such operation Russian special services are using political instability as a fuel to their operation. The best measure is the preventive measure.

The best way of preventing an irreversible escalation that leads to an armed conflict is working intelligence/counter-intelligence service, doing what's necessary for internal political balance and sustaining of diplomatic dialogue.
The only reason Russian services are able to operate and destabilize the situation in the Balkans(or at least try to) is the Serb expansionism and territorial pretensions towards Montenegro,Kosovo and Bosnia.With Montenegro being a part of NATO Kosovo and Bosnia are the only targets for Serbia.
The Serb wishful thinking is that Russians are somehow going to help them to create "Greater Serbia" or as they like to call it now days "Serbian world".
The only solution in order to avoid future wars is either accepting Bosnia and Kosovo in NATO(France will never allow that) or allowing them to arm themselves sufficiently to deter any possible Serb invasion.
 

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The only reason Russian services are able to operate and destabilize the situation in the Balkans(or at least try to) is the Serb expansionism and territorial pretensions towards Montenegro,Kosovo and Bosnia.With Montenegro being a part of NATO Kosovo and Bosnia are the only targets for Serbia.
The Serb wishful thinking is that Russians are somehow going to help them to create "Greater Serbia" or as they like to call it now days "Serbian world".
The only solution in order to avoid future wars is either accepting Bosnia and Kosovo in NATO(France will never allow that) or allowing them to arm themselves sufficiently to deter any possible Serb invasion.
This is the prevention of conventional conflict. The real challenge will be the prevention of the unconventional one.
 

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This is the prevention of conventional conflict. The real challenge will be the prevention of the unconventional one.
As you already said in the previous post the intelligence services doing their job will be the best prevention of an unconventional conflict.
Good example would be NATO stopping Serbo-Russian coup attempt in Montenegro 2016.

 

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We are all based on the Yugoslav maps, but when we look at the whole historical perspective, Bosnians is already divided by Serbian genocides, deportations and denial policies. Many Turks know about the Soviet policy of Zengazur and how two brotherly states TR and AZ were physically separated, or about the Crimean deportation, but not enough about how our brotherly states were demographically and physically isolated in the Balkan Muslim geography. Bosniaks have been struggling to maintain their identity for 200 years without interruption and have endured some of the most vile attacks humanity has ever seen.

Bosnia has to strengthen militarily. This is not a choice, it is a necessity. Unfortunately, there is no option to choose weapons from one side or the other. It has to be from whoever gives it to it. So we don't need to be surprised by US arms aid to Bosnia. Azerbaijan also received arms and technical support from Israel. But in the end, it liberated its occupied territories when international conditions were favorable.
 

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Bosnia has very very little weapons which can be used independently. If a cannon is in Sarajevo then shells are in the hands of Serbs ( Bulgarians) or Croats ( pseudo Hungarians). Bosnia given money can produce self propelled howitzer and other stuff , even tank engines ( there was unfruitful negotiations with Turkey).
Also I start to think that pseudo Catholics are becoming bigger danger then Serbs. Nothing much can be done. How we counter all this stories?
The Concert called Croats , completely invented term. Such thing as Croat as any historical figure doesn't exist. Can someone name one Croats who is not Getman ( Tudjman) Hungarian, Italian etc ? It shows what fakery we face , the fakery like Serbo Croat language.
As a matter of fact , I challenge any Serb or Croat to prove what they understand what their forefathers wrote 150 years ago , surely they understand what we wrote. At the end of the day surfs talk like their masters not vice versa .
 

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@dBSPL You are right, it is not a choice but a necessity for Bosnia.

And When it comes to the international condition, there is a good chance if things started to go south again, our troops will get involve directly through UN intervention as they did in 1990s.

but hopefully, this should never come to this again.

Recently I found out about that prideful chapter of history where brave Bangladeshi peace keepers didnt gave up their position unlike Dutch soldiers, and despite all odds they performed their duty with profession throughout the deployment.

I am glad that we were able to help our Bosnian brothers in their hours of need as much as our soldier could in that circumstances.

A very interesting read by

Brig Gen Salim Akhtar ndc, psc (Retd)​

Bangladesh UN Contingent Peacekeeping Mission in Bosnia-Herzegovina​

HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF THE CONFLICT​

Bosnia-Herzegovina (BH) was part of the former Balkan state of Yugoslavia. After the Allied victory in World War II, Yugoslavia was set up as a federation of six republics with borders drawn along ethnic and historical lines demarcating republics of Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Serbia.

The country had three large ethnic communities: (1) Bosnians- Muslims; (2) Croats- Catholic Christians; and, (3) Serbs-Orthodox Christians. Bosnia, being part of the old Ottoman empire, had a Muslim majority population. After the death of President Josip Broz Titoin 1980, internal political turmoil fueled by the fall of the other communist regimes in Eastern Europe, the state of Yugoslavia started to break up into smaller independent states. Map below shows the breakup and formation of the new republics.

In a 1991 census, population of Bosnia (Grey Portion) of some 4 million comprised of 44 percent Bosnians, 31 percent Serbs, and 17 percent Croats. In April 1992, Bosnia-Herzegovina (Muslims) declared its independence from Yugoslavia and this started off what we know as the Bosnia war. Over the next several years, Bosnian Serb forces, with the backing of the Serb-dominated Yugoslav army, targeted both Bosnian Muslims and Croatian Catholic Christiansresulting in the deaths of some 100,000 people by Dec 1995, when the war ended under 'Dayton Peace Accord'. It was the worst act of genocide in Europe since the Nazi regime's killing of some 6 million European Jews during World War II.

With both the European union and UN efforts failing to stop the killing and the ethnic cleansing, the international community agreed to deploy UN Peacekeepers.What most people do not know even today is that, the UN Peace Keeping mission was launched in Bosnia without UN Security Council Peacekeeping mandate simply because the big powers could not agree on a common agenda. As I understand, the OIC had played an active diplomatic role for making the Europeans accept UN Peacekeepers from non-European nations, especially from the Muslim countries. In addition to a unit from Kenya, non-European countries that contributed peacekeepers were Bangladesh, Malaysia and Pakistan.

The Bangladesh contingent was assigned to an area, called Bihac, on the north-east tip of Drvar, east of Banja Luka, a small Muslim enclave surrounded by Serbs on all sides. The French battalion that had been for some two years in Bihac, did not wish to continue any longer. In 1993, I led a team of officers for the reconnaissance mission to assess the situation and the logistic needs for placement of a contingent of Bangladesh peacekeepers and its sustenance.

Bosnia is known for its freezing and wet winters which appeared to me as a big challenge as none of our soldiers had any experience of living under snow conditions, apart from the fact that Bangladesh army was not equipped for operating in freezing winter conditions, which demand special clothing, special equipment and winter- survival knowledge. On our return, a report was submitted with a long list of specialized equipment for such situations, including winter clothing. Much of these are now on the standard list of Bangladesh UN equipment.

Deployment of peacekeeping units from Muslim countries was put on hold in 1993, as many European nations objected to their deployment in Bosnia- Herzegovina, and later struggled to find locations where these incoming units could be placed. I state this very sensitive aspect of the conflict only after having seen such documents and having come across such comments personally. In Bangladesh, the infantry battalion that was mobilized for Bosnia was later sent for Kuwait mission and I opted not to go for the Kuwait mission to continue my teaching assignment at the Staff College Mirpur.

The situation on the ground was getting worse that demanded additional troops, which NATO countries were unable to commit. As such, I believe, under the OIC initiative, the 1994 decision to insert peacekeepers from outside Europe including the Muslim nations was cleared.

Bangladesh was asked to confirm readiness to insert a mechanized infantry battalion within 45 days and, not surprisingly, Bangladesh agreed. In mid 1994, I was a Colonel and officiating commander of an infantry brigade in the north. I was called and asked to take charge and start the mobilizing and training effort in order to be able to send the contingent immediately. I took charge of the battalion in Savar and started the work of reorganizing, re-equipping and training. BTRs (APC), which is in such abundance now in the army, was not to be found in 1994. Hence, arrangements were made with UN to provide specialized equipment including APCs, and organize training of the APC crews. Solution came with UN retrieving of surplus equipment, stores and winter uniforms of the East German Army from the stock warehouses of a very large training facility of the old Soviet Union in Slovakia. We assembled the training team of about 100 plus people who were sent about a month ahead to Slovakia to train and take over the equipment. Since I had already arrived with an advanced team in Zagreb, Croatia, I along with a Danish Army officer drove via Hungary to Slovakia. The Danish officer found it hard to understand why Col. Salim, his companion, with a blue beret and UN ID had to undergo visa processes while entering Hungary and again at the Slovakia borders. Since I was carrying a non-European passport, I could well understand the issue! I shared some of that long drives and the experience of driving across the borders, and specially going through Budapest was nice and enjoyable.

BANBAT C.O Col. Salim with the French C.O.
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BANBAT C.O Col. Salim with the French C.O.
Training camp in Slovakia was impressive and gave me a picture of how much the old Soviet Union had stocked and prepared for a war with NATO that never came. We ended up using part of that equipment. By August 1994, the battalion arrived and camped at Zagreb, Croatia. We stayed about a month at camp Pleso in Zagreb, sharing facilities with soldiers mostly from NATO countries. The time was used for training, sorting out logistics with the UN and obtaining driving licenses. The training team from Slovakia along with BTR-70s, generators and a host of other equipment arrived in Zagreb by train. Unloading the trains was an experience. Unlike the practice of unloading through ramps in Bangladesh, the APCs and ARVs simply turned and drove onto the station platform and drove out of the station. I spent the day shuttling between the station and the camp. The unloading job continued for the whole day . We received two trainloads of something like 68 APCs (BTR70s), few tracked ARVs, a large number of trailer-mounted generators and other equipment. Arrival of equipment from Bangladesh got delayed as a result of transshipment at port of Alexandria, Egypt, where they could not find ship in time for Croatia.

Operations in Bosnia were primarily a NATO-run operations, which later came under the flag of UN Peacekeepers, but in reality what I witnessed was: NATO continued its firm hold with the French and the British playing the lead role in all decision making. Interestingly, Americans were kept out of all operational decision-making process. Towards the end of 1994, when situation was getting bad and plans were being discussed to extract UN Peacekeepers, US Navy Adriatic Fleet was given the responsibility to extract BANBAT in case of need. Though the US Naval officers discussed events with me on telephone, they were not allowed to attend to my briefing.

UN operations planned for the Bangladesh battalion to replace the French battalion in the Muslim enclave of Bihac, because the French had given a deadline for their pull-out date, which forced the UN operations to push in the Bangladesh battalion without waiting for the ship-load of equipment to arrive, which was being delayed due to transshipment at Alexandria, Egypt.

The Bangladesh contingent that I was given to command consisted of one infantry battalion, workshop detachment, medical detachment including dental, signals detachment and logistic support elements. As a contingent commander my big concern was adequate driving skills of APC drivers and the ability of all our drivers to drive, including soft vehicles, under snow condition to start with. In Bosnia, a large number of fatalities came from vehicle accidents during the winter months, the dreaded 'black-ice' on mountain roads.

Sometime in early Sep. 1994, the first convoy comprising of APCs and trucks with soldiers left for Bihac' under UN MP escort (Danish MP unit). As the convoy was driving through the city roads within the first few kilometers, one of our APC crushed a civilian car under its belly. Fortunately, the car driver survived and UN took care of the incident. Our convoy moved on, and finally reached the destination doing about 100 km in about 12 hours. BANBAT insertion was complete with four convoys on follow-up dates with some of the weapons being airlifted on MI-26 helicopters. With the arrival of BANBAT, the French battalion withdrew around mid-Sept., handing over the operational responsibility to BANBAT.

By 3rd week of Sept., 1994 when Bosnian forces around Sarajevo and central Bosnia were under intense attack by Serb forces, the Bosnian Army 5 Corp Commander in Bihać decided to attack the Serb forces around Bihac' to relieve pressure from central Bosnia. This break out by Bosnian forces from Bihać resulted in significant defeat of Serb forces and substantial loss of Serb territory. Bosnian forces from Bihać not only captured a huge ares of land, but also captured a lot of equipment from the retreating Serb forces, including tanks and artillery guns. Success of the Bosnian forces from Bihać caused the Serb forces to link the change in the battle field scenario to arrival of BANBAT in the area. We even experienced UN Observers from the West looking upon BANBAT with suspicious eyes. With this came the total blockade by the Serbs on all supply convoys destined for BANBAT, including total restrictions on helicopter lifts. About Nov – Dec 1994, BANBAT experienced some 10 weeks of total blockade including food supplies. Fortunately for BANBAT, the French battalion which was oversupplied, had left behind many containers of combo food packs, warehouse of other tinned food items and water packs, which came to good use. However, some of these food packs had pork content which caused some discontent among our soldiers. Under severe food crisis BANBAT learnt to adapt with whatever was available. BANBAT had carried a small quantity of rice, dal and few other dry item; it was under these circumstances I learned that food habit can seriously affect morale. Under the self-imposed rationing, I allowed rice, 'dal'(lentil-soup) and 'aloo bhorta'(mashed potatoes)once a week on Sundays. And with such a meal, which had much less calorie value than the combo pack, people were all in smiles and high morale.

BANBAT was positioned at three camps and a few forward OPs (observation posts). Camp accommodation was based on pre-fab containers, with each camp generating its own electric power for the heating, which was life's essential need. Camps and the OPs were subjected to frequent shooting and shelling and many of us, in vehicles or APCs, have experienced being hit. I can recall on one occasion when I was crossing Serb vs Bosnian confrontation line, my vehicle took about 6 hits from small arms. Sometime in Dec 1994, one of our APCs was hit twice by Serb-fired ATGM with the gun turret blowing away and Sainik Ismail was killed with few others injured. Once when the camp was still under fire, I was offered NATO air strike but instead of asking for the air strike, I asked for immediate ceasefire which allowed me to evacuate the wounded to US Army MASH in Zagreb. As I look back now, this decision may have saved many lives on that day by allowing the situation to calm down. If I had approved the NATO air strike on Serb positions at the time, that would have certainly caused the situation to flare up, denying chances for evacuation of wounded Bangladesh soldiers. I have to say that many of our young officers held their positions under intense fire beyond the call of duty. I can recall one occasion when a young captain with his APC team were manning a position that came under intense fire from the Serbs, as they were shelling the Bosnian positions nearby, but BANBAT team did not abandon its position and kept reporting on the situation which was the prime requirement for the peace keepers. I received numerous letters of appreciation from Force Commander, General Smith of UK, to a number of operational staffs from UNPROFOR headquarters, who were deeply appreciating the professionalism of Bangladesh soldiers.

During our mission we faced a very hostile Western media including CNN. In consequence, I had to go on a number of interviews with medias like BBC, SKY TV UK, Peter Jennings Show ABC TV USA and a number of papers like LA Times and Philadelphia Times as part of my struggle to fight the negative media campaign against BANBAT.

According to my judgement, the European nations were upset with BANBAT because hey came to believe wrongfully that the battlefield losses of the Serbs were somehow linked to the arrival of the BANBAT in the area, and this is not what the lead European nations wanted to see. War in Bosnia continued for five years or so, simply because two of the leading European nations had a clear political objective to let the war continue till Bosnia lives no longer as a Muslim majority country in the heart of Christian Europe. This was the prime reason for enforcing arms embargo on the Bosnians while the Serbs were getting free supply of weapons from elements of the Serbian army.

War in Bosnia ended with territories divided as shown on the map below which served well with the political objective of certain European nations: Fragmented Bosnia-Herzegovina. Bosnia-Herzegovina now consists of three political entities in clearly separated areas with their own governments. The Bosnians (Muslims) areas marked in light grey, Croat (Catholic Christians) areas marked in pink and Serbs (Orthodox Christians) areas marked in deep purple.

One may ask what did BANBAT achieve during its mission in Bosnia? BANBAT has kept the UN flag flying many times under some very adverse circumstances, while at the same time, under similar conditions, some European battalions, including one NATO battalion, gave away the area under them to the advancing Serbs. One may recall the massacre Serb forces carried out in enclaves of Zepa and Srebrenica after the UN battalion surrendered to the belligerents. Bangladesh battalion stood up against every odds with meagre supplies and soldiers who had never seen anything like a European winter. On the quiet, many NATO officers confided to me that most European battalions would have refused to continue under the atrocious conditions that BANBAT survived and held on to its positions. Credit goes to the absolute tenacity and courage of the Bangladesh soldiers and young officers who served under my leadership and delivered what I asked for under any condition.

To relieve the battlefield stress for Bangladesh Army, we were possibly the only battalion that arranged seven chartered flights for a one month vacation to Bangladesh for the soldiers and officers.

I salute all the young officers and soldiers who served under my command, gladly accepting tasks which often put their lives at risk.



The writer was Bosnia Mission Contingent Commander.

@TR_123456 @Yasar @Cabatli_TR @Kartal1 @Bogeyman @Ryder @what and others! this may interest you.
 
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@dBSPL You are right, it is not a choice but a necessity for Bosnia.

And When it comes to the international condition, there is a good chance if things started to go south again, our troops will get involve directly through UN intervention as they did in 1990s.

Recently I found out about that prideful chapter of history where brave Bangladeshi peace keepers didnt gave up their position unlike Dutch soldiers, and despite all odds they performed their duty with profession throughout the deployment.

I am glad that we were able to help our Bosnian brothers in their hours of need as much as our soldier could in that circumstances.

An interesting read by

Brig Gen Salim Akhtar ndc, psc (Retd)​

Bangladesh UN Contingent Peacekeeping Mission in Bosnia-Herzegovina​

HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF THE CONFLICT​

Bosnia-Herzegovina (BH) was part of the former Balkan state of Yugoslavia. After the Allied victory in World War II, Yugoslavia was set up as a federation of six republics with borders drawn along ethnic and historical lines demarcating republics of Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Serbia.

The country had three large ethnic communities: (1) Bosnians- Muslims; (2) Croats- Catholic Christians; and, (3) Serbs-Orthodox Christians. Bosnia, being part of the old Ottoman empire, had a Muslim majority population. After the death of President Josip Broz Titoin 1980, internal political turmoil fueled by the fall of the other communist regimes in Eastern Europe, the state of Yugoslavia started to break up into smaller independent states. Map below shows the breakup and formation of the new republics.

In a 1991 census, population of Bosnia (Grey Portion) of some 4 million comprised of 44 percent Bosnians, 31 percent Serbs, and 17 percent Croats. In April 1992, Bosnia-Herzegovina (Muslims) declared its independence from Yugoslavia and this started off what we know as the Bosnia war. Over the next several years, Bosnian Serb forces, with the backing of the Serb-dominated Yugoslav army, targeted both Bosnian Muslims and Croatian Catholic Christiansresulting in the deaths of some 100,000 people by Dec 1995, when the war ended under 'Dayton Peace Accord'. It was the worst act of genocide in Europe since the Nazi regime's killing of some 6 million European Jews during World War II.

With both the European union and UN efforts failing to stop the killing and the ethnic cleansing, the international community agreed to deploy UN Peacekeepers.What most people do not know even today is that, the UN Peace Keeping mission was launched in Bosnia without UN Security Council Peacekeeping mandate simply because the big powers could not agree on a common agenda. As I understand, the OIC had played an active diplomatic role for making the Europeans accept UN Peacekeepers from non-European nations, especially from the Muslim countries. In addition to a unit from Kenya, non-European countries that contributed peacekeepers were Bangladesh, Malaysia and Pakistan.

The Bangladesh contingent was assigned to an area, called Bihac, on the north-east tip of Drvar, east of Banja Luka, a small Muslim enclave surrounded by Serbs on all sides. The French battalion that had been for some two years in Bihac, did not wish to continue any longer. In 1993, I led a team of officers for the reconnaissance mission to assess the situation and the logistic needs for placement of a contingent of Bangladesh peacekeepers and its sustenance.

Bosnia is known for its freezing and wet winters which appeared to me as a big challenge as none of our soldiers had any experience of living under snow conditions, apart from the fact that Bangladesh army was not equipped for operating in freezing winter conditions, which demand special clothing, special equipment and winter- survival knowledge. On our return, a report was submitted with a long list of specialized equipment for such situations, including winter clothing. Much of these are now on the standard list of Bangladesh UN equipment.

Deployment of peacekeeping units from Muslim countries was put on hold in 1993, as many European nations objected to their deployment in Bosnia- Herzegovina, and later struggled to find locations where these incoming units could be placed. I state this very sensitive aspect of the conflict only after having seen such documents and having come across such comments personally. In Bangladesh, the infantry battalion that was mobilized for Bosnia was later sent for Kuwait mission and I opted not to go for the Kuwait mission to continue my teaching assignment at the Staff College Mirpur.

The situation on the ground was getting worse that demanded additional troops, which NATO countries were unable to commit. As such, I believe, under the OIC initiative, the 1994 decision to insert peacekeepers from outside Europe including the Muslim nations was cleared.

Bangladesh was asked to confirm readiness to insert a mechanized infantry battalion within 45 days and, not surprisingly, Bangladesh agreed. In mid 1994, I was a Colonel and officiating commander of an infantry brigade in the north. I was called and asked to take charge and start the mobilizing and training effort in order to be able to send the contingent immediately. I took charge of the battalion in Savar and started the work of reorganizing, re-equipping and training. BTRs (APC), which is in such abundance now in the army, was not to be found in 1994. Hence, arrangements were made with UN to provide specialized equipment including APCs, and organize training of the APC crews. Solution came with UN retrieving of surplus equipment, stores and winter uniforms of the East German Army from the stock warehouses of a very large training facility of the old Soviet Union in Slovakia. We assembled the training team of about 100 plus people who were sent about a month ahead to Slovakia to train and take over the equipment. Since I had already arrived with an advanced team in Zagreb, Croatia, I along with a Danish Army officer drove via Hungary to Slovakia. The Danish officer found it hard to understand why Col. Salim, his companion, with a blue beret and UN ID had to undergo visa processes while entering Hungary and again at the Slovakia borders. Since I was carrying a non-European passport, I could well understand the issue! I shared some of that long drives and the experience of driving across the borders, and specially going through Budapest was nice and enjoyable.

BANBAT C.O Col. Salim with the French C.O.
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BANBAT C.O Col. Salim with the French C.O.
Training camp in Slovakia was impressive and gave me a picture of how much the old Soviet Union had stocked and prepared for a war with NATO that never came. We ended up using part of that equipment. By August 1994, the battalion arrived and camped at Zagreb, Croatia. We stayed about a month at camp Pleso in Zagreb, sharing facilities with soldiers mostly from NATO countries. The time was used for training, sorting out logistics with the UN and obtaining driving licenses. The training team from Slovakia along with BTR-70s, generators and a host of other equipment arrived in Zagreb by train. Unloading the trains was an experience. Unlike the practice of unloading through ramps in Bangladesh, the APCs and ARVs simply turned and drove onto the station platform and drove out of the station. I spent the day shuttling between the station and the camp. The unloading job continued for the whole day . We received two trainloads of something like 68 APCs (BTR70s), few tracked ARVs, a large number of trailer-mounted generators and other equipment. Arrival of equipment from Bangladesh got delayed as a result of transshipment at port of Alexandria, Egypt, where they could not find ship in time for Croatia.

Operations in Bosnia were primarily a NATO-run operations, which later came under the flag of UN Peacekeepers, but in reality what I witnessed was: NATO continued its firm hold with the French and the British playing the lead role in all decision making. Interestingly, Americans were kept out of all operational decision-making process. Towards the end of 1994, when situation was getting bad and plans were being discussed to extract UN Peacekeepers, US Navy Adriatic Fleet was given the responsibility to extract BANBAT in case of need. Though the US Naval officers discussed events with me on telephone, they were not allowed to attend to my briefing.

UN operations planned for the Bangladesh battalion to replace the French battalion in the Muslim enclave of Bihac, because the French had given a deadline for their pull-out date, which forced the UN operations to push in the Bangladesh battalion without waiting for the ship-load of equipment to arrive, which was being delayed due to transshipment at Alexandria, Egypt.

The Bangladesh contingent that I was given to command consisted of one infantry battalion, workshop detachment, medical detachment including dental, signals detachment and logistic support elements. As a contingent commander my big concern was adequate driving skills of APC drivers and the ability of all our drivers to drive, including soft vehicles, under snow condition to start with. In Bosnia, a large number of fatalities came from vehicle accidents during the winter months, the dreaded 'black-ice' on mountain roads.

Sometime in early Sep. 1994, the first convoy comprising of APCs and trucks with soldiers left for Bihac' under UN MP escort (Danish MP unit). As the convoy was driving through the city roads within the first few kilometers, one of our APC crushed a civilian car under its belly. Fortunately, the car driver survived and UN took care of the incident. Our convoy moved on, and finally reached the destination doing about 100 km in about 12 hours. BANBAT insertion was complete with four convoys on follow-up dates with some of the weapons being airlifted on MI-26 helicopters. With the arrival of BANBAT, the French battalion withdrew around mid-Sept., handing over the operational responsibility to BANBAT.

By 3rd week of Sept., 1994 when Bosnian forces around Sarajevo and central Bosnia were under intense attack by Serb forces, the Bosnian Army 5 Corp Commander in Bihać decided to attack the Serb forces around Bihac' to relieve pressure from central Bosnia. This break out by Bosnian forces from Bihać resulted in significant defeat of Serb forces and substantial loss of Serb territory. Bosnian forces from Bihać not only captured a huge ares of land, but also captured a lot of equipment from the retreating Serb forces, including tanks and artillery guns. Success of the Bosnian forces from Bihać caused the Serb forces to link the change in the battle field scenario to arrival of BANBAT in the area. We even experienced UN Observers from the West looking upon BANBAT with suspicious eyes. With this came the total blockade by the Serbs on all supply convoys destined for BANBAT, including total restrictions on helicopter lifts. About Nov – Dec 1994, BANBAT experienced some 10 weeks of total blockade including food supplies. Fortunately for BANBAT, the French battalion which was oversupplied, had left behind many containers of combo food packs, warehouse of other tinned food items and water packs, which came to good use. However, some of these food packs had pork content which caused some discontent among our soldiers. Under severe food crisis BANBAT learnt to adapt with whatever was available. BANBAT had carried a small quantity of rice, dal and few other dry item; it was under these circumstances I learned that food habit can seriously affect morale. Under the self-imposed rationing, I allowed rice, 'dal'(lentil-soup) and 'aloo bhorta'(mashed potatoes)once a week on Sundays. And with such a meal, which had much less calorie value than the combo pack, people were all in smiles and high morale.

BANBAT was positioned at three camps and a few forward OPs (observation posts). Camp accommodation was based on pre-fab containers, with each camp generating its own electric power for the heating, which was life's essential need. Camps and the OPs were subjected to frequent shooting and shelling and many of us, in vehicles or APCs, have experienced being hit. I can recall on one occasion when I was crossing Serb vs Bosnian confrontation line, my vehicle took about 6 hits from small arms. Sometime in Dec 1994, one of our APCs was hit twice by Serb-fired ATGM with the gun turret blowing away and Sainik Ismail was killed with few others injured. Once when the camp was still under fire, I was offered NATO air strike but instead of asking for the air strike, I asked for immediate ceasefire which allowed me to evacuate the wounded to US Army MASH in Zagreb. As I look back now, this decision may have saved many lives on that day by allowing the situation to calm down. If I had approved the NATO air strike on Serb positions at the time, that would have certainly caused the situation to flare up, denying chances for evacuation of wounded Bangladesh soldiers. I have to say that many of our young officers held their positions under intense fire beyond the call of duty. I can recall one occasion when a young captain with his APC team were manning a position that came under intense fire from the Serbs, as they were shelling the Bosnian positions nearby, but BANBAT team did not abandon its position and kept reporting on the situation which was the prime requirement for the peace keepers. I received numerous letters of appreciation from Force Commander, General Smith of UK, to a number of operational staffs from UNPROFOR headquarters, who were deeply appreciating the professionalism of Bangladesh soldiers.

During our mission we faced a very hostile Western media including CNN. In consequence, I had to go on a number of interviews with medias like BBC, SKY TV UK, Peter Jennings Show ABC TV USA and a number of papers like LA Times and Philadelphia Times as part of my struggle to fight the negative media campaign against BANBAT.

According to my judgement, the European nations were upset with BANBAT because hey came to believe wrongfully that the battlefield losses of the Serbs were somehow linked to the arrival of the BANBAT in the area, and this is not what the lead European nations wanted to see. War in Bosnia continued for five years or so, simply because two of the leading European nations had a clear political objective to let the war continue till Bosnia lives no longer as a Muslim majority country in the heart of Christian Europe. This was the prime reason for enforcing arms embargo on the Bosnians while the Serbs were getting free supply of weapons from elements of the Serbian army.

War in Bosnia ended with territories divided as shown on the map below which served well with the political objective of certain European nations: Fragmented Bosnia-Herzegovina. Bosnia-Herzegovina now consists of three political entities in clearly separated areas with their own governments. The Bosnians (Muslims) areas marked in light grey, Croat (Catholic Christians) areas marked in pink and Serbs (Orthodox Christians) areas marked in deep purple.

One may ask what did BANBAT achieve during its mission in Bosnia? BANBAT has kept the UN flag flying many times under some very adverse circumstances, while at the same time, under similar conditions, some European battalions, including one NATO battalion, gave away the area under them to the advancing Serbs. One may recall the massacre Serb forces carried out in enclaves of Zepa and Srebrenica after the UN battalion surrendered to the belligerents. Bangladesh battalion stood up against every odds with meagre supplies and soldiers who had never seen anything like a European winter. On the quiet, many NATO officers confided to me that most European battalions would have refused to continue under the atrocious conditions that BANBAT survived and held on to its positions. Credit goes to the absolute tenacity and courage of the Bangladesh soldiers and young officers who served under my leadership and delivered what I asked for under any condition.

To relieve the battlefield stress for Bangladesh Army, we were possibly the only battalion that arranged seven chartered flights for a one month vacation to Bangladesh for the soldiers and officers.

I salute all the young officers and soldiers who served under my command, gladly accepting tasks which often put their lives at risk.



The writer was Bosnia Mission Contingent Commander.
Hopefully times has changed, and turkey can intervene directly in times of crisis. Bosnia should increase its combat readiness, and capacity. Build a larger capable army with the help of turkey. The opportunities are huge. Morocco also contributed with over 10 000 soldiers to Kosovo for 14 years.
 

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Whoever laughing emoji on my post , I can say , please disapprove my statement.. who is croat? Nikola Zrinjski? His name was Miklos Zrimyi a Hungarian, Frankopan ? An Italian Fankopini ? Father of Croat language Ljudevit Gay Father Raymond ( French) mother Von Asperger ( German) . Any coinage from any so called Croat King stamp on it ? Any? Who spoke Any other language in Dalmatia apart from Italian?
Serbs? Nemanjic dynasty? Albanians intermarried with Bulgarians crowned by the Papal crown.
Croat names Sroessmayer, Stadler, Novak etc German, Vlachian, Checz, Hungarian etc.
Serb ? In reality can you speak without making elementary grammatical mistakes ?
These charlatans were invented by Austro-Hungarian empire.
Every single Catholic Church was destroyed by the Austrians after 1878 and rebuilt in Austrian style apart from one in Kresevo.
Please Mr Laughing put your fact through, are those churches in Osjek etc Chatolic or Protestant origin?
 
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