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Hmm...does this report count civilian aerospace products/parts export also?
I ma not sure what military platforms TUSAS exported in 2023 that costed up to $864 millions.
 

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These other companies must do more - they need to aggressively market their products. Baykar is carrying the entire sector.

Yeah especially TUSAS. They’re not even doing 1% of what Baykar are doing in advertisement. It’s like they don’t want to sell lol. Honestly I’m a bit disappointed by them.
 

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Hmm...does this report count civilian aerospace products/parts export also?
I ma not sure what military platforms TUSAS exported in 2023 that costed up to $864 milli
 

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Yeah especially TUSAS. They’re not even doing 1% of what Baykar are doing in advertisement. It’s like they don’t want to sell lol. Honestly I’m a bit disappointed by them.
Indeed. On the other hand, they are very invested in many long-term projects, which will pay of in the coming decades.

Landing substantial contracts for T-625, T-925, ANKA III, Hurjet, TF-X will quickly put them back on top.
 

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Yes, but I was under the impression it was aerospace products for defence purposes only that is being counted? There was also a report regarding this last year. I don't remember well.
 

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These other companies must do more - they need to aggressively market their products. Baykar is carrying the entire sector.
Baykar, is, really incredible. And they're not even close to their full potential. It wouldn't surprise me to see their exports climbing over $3billions in 4-5 years.
 

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Yes, but I was under the impression it was aerospace products for defence purposes only that is being counted? There was also a report regarding this last year. I don't remember well.

I believe it includes civilian aerospace products.
 

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I believe it includes civilian aerospace products.
Must be because P&W THY is the service centre for civilians aircraft and engines of THY.
So while its nice to see the numbers grow but it is still not good enough, not even close.

But I'm optimistic with TAIs upcoming products in the coming years.
The drone export numbers of TAI were a bit disappointing, ATAK couldn't reach a desirable level due to politics but I see light at the end of the tunnel for TAI to become the domestic champion in exports
 

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This numbers honestly disappointing especially for Aselsan and Roketsan. Yet the some share of Baykar export also contains Roketsan munition and Aselsan CATS.
Btw are naval exports included here?
 

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This numbers honestly disappointing especially for Aselsan and Roketsan. Yet the some share of Baykar export also contains Roketsan munition and Aselsan CATS.
Btw are naval exports included here?
True. In addition to $108millions worth of direct exports, ASELSAN has exported $196millions as subsystems of our platforms. Total export is $304 millions.

 

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This numbers honestly disappointing especially for Aselsan and Roketsan. Yet the some share of Baykar export also contains Roketsan munition and Aselsan CATS.
Btw are naval exports included here?

Honestly i dont believe that the real numbers are being shared for political reasons. Just my personal opinion.
 

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Honestly i dont believe that the real numbers are being shared for political reasons. Just my personal opinion.
Aren't export deals announced through KAP for Aselsan, Roketsan etc? There has been a post almost every time someone signed a new deal. How would they hide or change the real numbers?
 

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Nigeria's internal security project that has been going on for a while which saw Turkish drones from Asisguard be exported, will also include 13 Nurol NMS in a 35 million deal between Asisguard and Nigeria.

"Drones from Turkish defense firms Havelsan and STM will also be sold to Nigeria, and products of around 10 companies, including Gurbag Defense and MILMAST, will be exported."

 

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Aren't export deals announced through KAP for Aselsan, Roketsan etc? There has been a post almost every time someone signed a new deal. How would they hide or change the real numbers?

I would assume most of the deals have been mentioned either by name of the client or as an anonymous customer, however, there is probably still a big amount of % that is not counted in the charts. I can say that this is at least the case between Morocco and Turkiye.
 

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$10.2 billion contract from Turkish defense industry​


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The Turkish defense and aerospace industry sector signed export contracts worth 10.2 billion dollars in 2023. The export revenue of the sector was 5.5 billion dollars.

President of the Presidency of Defense Industries, Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün made important statements about the export performance of the Turkish defense and aerospace industry. While it is known that the export revenue of the sector in 2023 was 5.5 billion dollars, the amount of export contracts signed during the year was 10.2 billion dollars.

Prof. Dr. In the statement made by Haluk Görgün , “We are entering the century of defense with new important contracts. We are taking firm steps towards our sustainable export targets. We have left behind a new milestone with our record-breaking 2023 Defense and Aviation Industry Exports that we announced yesterday. Today, we are raising the bar even higher with the new contracts we signed in 2023.

Our companies, which produce helicopters, land vehicles, marine vehicles, weapons and ammunition, missile systems, electronic systems and radar systems, especially unmanned aerial vehicles, signed contracts with a total value exceeding 10,240 Billion Dollars in 2023.

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With the deliveries we will start this year, we will increase our export figures in 2024 and beyond and set new records for our country.

"We will continue to share our reliable, high-technology products that have proven themselves in the battlefield with friendly and allied countries."


Source: @SavunmaSanayiST.com



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Aren't export deals announced through KAP for Aselsan, Roketsan etc? There has been a post almost every time someone signed a new deal. How would they hide or change the real numbers?
I've heard that some contracts are never made public. But I have no idea about size.
 

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How did this flew under your radar folks?

Looks like Pakistan is a lost cause for KAAN. Not that Turkey technically needs them, but politically it would have been a win. Despite Turkey showing good interest in Pak's participation, they weren't very assuring from the beginning.

Previously i wrote in detail why Pakistan is likely to choose FC-31 over KAAN. But that wasn't very believable back then. Most people was almost certain, even if Pakistan don't join the program, they would definitely select to buy it as their next gen fighter.
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How did this flew under your radar folks?

Looks like Pakistan is a lost cause for KAAN. Not that Turkey technically needs them, but politically it would have been a win. But despite Turkey showing good interest in Pak's participation, they weren't very assuring from the beginning.

Previously i wrote in detail why Pakistan likely to choose FC-31 over KAAN. But that wasn't very believable then. Most people was almost certain, even if Pakistan don't join the program, they would at least select to buy it as their next gen fighter.
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Pakistan has always flown aircraft of both western origin and eastern origin. However, the future lies in the 5th generation warplanes. Moreover, the number of countries where 5th generation aircraft can be purchased is not more than 1-2. When they want to buy a 5th generation "WEST" origin warplane to replace the F-16s, the address they will go to will be Turkey. Therefore, I think they will be seriously interested in Kaan once he proves himself.
 
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