TR Defence Exports & Updates

[Sanchez]

New details on MILGEM warship exports to Malaysia

Malaysia is preparing to procure three MILGEM ADA Class Corvettes from Turkey as part of the LMS Batch II Program, in the first phase and eight in the final phase. The contract could allegedly be signed in the first half of this year.

As part of the Littoral Mission Ship (LMS) Batch II Procurement Program, Malaysia will procure three corvettes in the first phase. At a time when Malaysia was evaluating MİLGEM ADA Class Corvettes for the LMS Batch II Program, STM signed a goodwill agreement with the Technology Depository Agency Berhad (Malaysia-TDA) in May 2023, including technology transfer in the field of military maritime.

According to Defence Security Asia, STM is expected to be selected as the 'prime contractor' for the Royal Malaysian Navy's LMS Batch II Program. The project, in which three Littoral Task Ships will be procured with a budget of more than 400 million dollars in the first phase, is being carried out through a 'Government-to-Government (G2G) Agreement'.

The contract for the construction of 3 LMS Batch II ships is expected to be signed this year, and a decision is expected to be taken for the construction of 5 more ships during the 13th Malaysia Plan (2026-2030). Thus, by 2030, the Malaysian Navy will have 8 Littoral Task Ships based on the MİLGEM ADA Class Corvette design.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1757710024430785000

 

[Oublious]

New details on MILGEM warship exports to Malaysia

Malaysia is preparing to procure three MILGEM ADA Class Corvettes from Turkey as part of the LMS Batch II Program, in the first phase and eight in the final phase. The contract could allegedly be signed in the first half of this year.

As part of the Littoral Mission Ship (LMS) Batch II Procurement Program, Malaysia will procure three corvettes in the first phase. At a time when Malaysia was evaluating MİLGEM ADA Class Corvettes for the LMS Batch II Program, STM signed a goodwill agreement with the Technology Depository Agency Berhad (Malaysia-TDA) in May 2023, including technology transfer in the field of military maritime.

According to Defence Security Asia, STM is expected to be selected as the 'prime contractor' for the Royal Malaysian Navy's LMS Batch II Program. The project, in which three Littoral Task Ships will be procured with a budget of more than 400 million dollars in the first phase, is being carried out through a 'Government-to-Government (G2G) Agreement'.

The contract for the construction of 3 LMS Batch II ships is expected to be signed this year, and a decision is expected to be taken for the construction of 5 more ships during the 13th Malaysia Plan (2026-2030). Thus, by 2030, the Malaysian Navy will have 8 Littoral Task Ships based on the MİLGEM ADA Class Corvette design.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1757710024430785000

400 million 3 ships is cheap, or are we only going to supple them weapon software and hardware?

 

[what]

Probably not including all payload, also not guaranteed that all systems onboard will be bought in Turkey.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Ukrainian ambassador Vasyl Bodnar says Kyiv plans to purchase fifth-generation Turkish fighter jet Kaan when it is developed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758143031755292813

 

[Afif]

For that Ukraine have to prove they can be trusted with the full security of KAAN. Right now there is a massive systematic corruption where many of the western weapon systems & parts ended up on black markets. (Despite, Ukrainian armed force being in desperate need of them)

 

[Khagan1923]

Ukrainian ambassador Vasyl Bodnar says Kyiv plans to purchase fifth-generation Turkish fighter jet Kaan when it is developed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758143031755292813

Why does this sound like a bribe to be taking into account the fact that Ukrainian firms want to take part in the engine development.

„psst let us partake in your engine program and we pinky promise we will buy a couple Kaans from you when the time comes“

 

[uçuyorum]

Why does this sound like a bribe to be taking into account the fact that Ukrainian firms want to take part in the engine development.

„psst let us partake in your engine program and we pinky promise we will buy a couple Kaans from you when the time comes“

I mean I'm sure they would want 5th gen fighters after war has settled down in 10 years providing they have an economy, with help from west. They probably wouldn't be able to get F35, but if they were industrial partners with KAAN they could maybe get some.

 

[Khagan1923]

For that Ukraine have to prove they can be trusted with the full security of KAAN. Right now there is a massive systematic corruption where many of the western weapon systems & parts ended up on black markets. (Despite, Ukrainian armed force being in desperate need of them)

Gonna say the same thing I said about Pakistan due to its closeness to China. Ukraine is fully under control of the west. How much trust is there that they won't leak things about the aircraft to those powers? There are a couple countries who would gladly get their hands on classified information about Kaan.

Corruption aside.

 

[Khagan1923]

I mean I'm sure they would want 5th gen fighters after war has settled down in 10 years providing they have an economy, with help from west. They probably wouldn't be able to get F35, but if they were industrial partners with KAAN they could maybe get some.

Don't know in 10 years how cutting edge will be the F-35 be? Under how much influence will Ukraine be? How will the war have gone? We don't know what the world will look like in 10 years.

I don't take the words of the ambassador very serious. Could just be pampering for more support. Like I said.

 

[Huelague]

Ukrainian ambassador Vasyl Bodnar says Kyiv plans to purchase fifth-generation Turkish fighter jet Kaan when it is developed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758143031755292813

Against Russia. As far as Ukraine will exist as a sovereign state. Which is not likely that Ukraine will last that long. At least 5 years, before Ukraine will ever get Kaan fighter. Not to mention that US will intervene any purchase of Turkish fighter jet. With Western Money.

 

[what]

Not sure if Ukraine will have the budget for a 5th Generation Aircraft for a while or even before the war.

 

[Kitra]

Probably not including all payload, also not guaranteed that all systems onboard will be bought in Turkey.

They will be equipped with NSM and other foreign systems.

 

[Scott Summers]

Against Russia. As far as Ukraine will exist as a sovereign state. Which is not likely that Ukraine will last that long. At least 5 years, before Ukraine will ever get Kaan fighter. Not to mention that US will intervene any purchase of Turkish fighter jet. With Western Money.

Zelensky will ask KAAN for free and if Turkey rejects, he will give interviews for 399 newschannels around the globe to complain about Turkey.

It's very naive to think that Ukraine can pay for anything. Maybe if the EU or US will give them a loan with high interest rates (IMF), but not to purchase Turkish jets.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

What are we actually talking about? I doubt that KAAN can simply be exported to all countries that want it...
If at all only to Qatar, or Azerbaijan the closest allies.
The rest will only get drones of different classes if at all, maybe in 15 years we will bring out an export version then we can talk.

 

[Afif]

If so, then I guess this is a bad news for BD.

Chief of air staff stated we will procure 5th gen fighter in the future.
Thus, alternatively, We need to develop much closer alignment to USA or PRC to get the F-35 or J-35 in the next decade. Or maybe, buy Eurofighter for MRCA and then built on that to buy Tempset in 2040. (As Tempset will be put on for export)

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Ukrainian ambassador Vasyl Bodnar says Kyiv plans to purchase fifth-generation Turkish fighter jet Kaan when it is developed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758143031755292813

Ukraine : We will buy KAAN with your money
Like other weapons from USA for free (Americans money)

 

[Sanchez]

"The company that established the 155 mm artillery ammunition production line in the USA and the companies that will establish the light ammunition factory I wrote about do not want their names to be made public yet. Let me add one more thing: Soon you will hear news about a Turkish company producing kamikaze drones in France, a Turkish company producing IKA(UGVs) in the Czech Republic, and the Turkish acquisition of one of the largest ammunition factories in Eastern Europe."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758236327949021616

 

[what]

If at all only to Qatar, or Azerbaijan the closest allies.

And what makes you think that?

 

[boredaf]

"The company that established the 155 mm artillery ammunition production line in the USA and the companies that will establish the light ammunition factory I wrote about do not want their names to be made public yet. Let me add one more thing: Soon you will hear news about a Turkish company producing kamikaze drones in France, a Turkish company producing IKA(UGVs) in the Czech Republic, and the Turkish acquisition of one of the largest ammunition factories in Eastern Europe."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1758236327949021616

It seems like we are setting ourselves up around the world

 

[Yasar_TR]

KAAN is still a work in progress that hasn't even flown yet. After that, it still has to go through thousands of tests, integration of electronics, sensors, radars, avionics. There will be 14 prototypes built to carry out these tests. After this there will be a process of indigenous engine integration that will enable it to be sellable to third parties without recourse.
Then when all is fine and the plane is ready, will we be able to buy it in to our airforce that needs it more than any other prospective buyer.
After we are satisfied with the numbers of planes in our inventory can we think about exporting it.

Any conception that it will be ready for export soon is premature and baseless at this stage.