TR Defence Exports & Updates

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1916117491446595876

 

[Costin1984]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1915686517722263874

I hope that this JV will also produce for further European markets in the coming years.

 

[Sanchez]

Erdoğan to visit Italy tomorrow, should be interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1916900869439660201

 

[mTT]

Erdoğan to visit Italy tomorrow, should be interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1916900869439660201

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1917232503158460627

TB3 ?

 

[mTT]

"Accordo nel settore aerospaziale tra Leonardo e Bicar Technologies, che porterà alla creazione di una joint venture per droni con sede in Italia."

Aerospace agreement between Leonardo and Baykar Technologies, which will lead to the creation of a drone joint venture based in Italy.

Meloni ed Erdoğan firmano accordi storici: Italia e Turchia puntano a 40 miliardi di interscambio (Video) | InfoOggi

Italia e Turchia rafforzano il partenariato strategico: firmati numerosi accordi bilaterali a RomaROMA – 29 aprile 2025. Si è concluso oggi a Roma il quart

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[Sanchez]

TB3 ?

In the end, much much larger. Many Turkish projects will be Europeanized. For today, we don't have any info, these are all MoUs.

 

[Pokemonte13]

In the end, much much larger. Many Turkish projects will be Europeanized. For today, we don't have any info, these are all MoUs.

I'm guessing hull with leonardo equipment kinda like we did t129. I'm really exited for the awacs variant of akinci because im not sure if current engines are enough to power multiple radars at the same time maybe just one that rotates and if our own airforce would buy it.

 

[Sanchez]

Update on Aselsan's Leopard 2 upgrade for the Chilean Army Per TurDef:

"ASELSAN's modernisation programme is divided into four phases. The first phase, which has been completed, includes the C4ISR system and new radios. The second phase will overhaul the fire control system, add electro-optics, a new IFF system, a 360° surveillance suite, and fire suppression/NBC equipment.
The next two phases are expected to include armour overhauls and an active protection system as the finishing touch to the survivability."

However, "Chilean sources have reported that Germany refused to sell new Leopard 2 MBTs to Chile if a modernisation deal was made with ASELSAN.

In a live stream of Chile-based YouTube channel La Trinchera about ASELSAN's Leopard 2 modernisation programme for Chile, Germany's offer for new Leopard 2 models included the condition of not signing a modernisation deal with ASELSAN."

Germany Wants to Block ASELSAN’s Offers to Chile | TURDEF

Chilean sources have reported that Germany refused to sell new Leopard 2 MBTs to Chile if a modernisation deal was made with ASELSAN.

turdef.com

It's not clear directly if the German firm/Germany is talking about the entirety of the modernization package or its follow ups. We hadn't heard of a deal being signed previously, but per the source, it is signed and radio and C4ISR equipment is already delivered and deployed. All this is a translation of a translation, so some details might be missing/wrong. As far as I can remember, these tanks were modernized with modern radios by an Israeli company when they were first received. So maybe the first phase is not about Aselsan but Chile's own mod program.

Per the same stream, Aselsan is now also offering to upgrade Chile's Leopard 1Vs. "Chile will decide (to start the program or not) after observing the Leopard 2 modernisation process. The package is stated to include a change to a 120 mm smoothbore gun instead of the rifled 105 mm one.

ASELSAN offers Leopard 1V MBT Modernisation to Chile | TURDEF

ASELSAN has offered a modernisation package for Leopard 1V MBTs following the ongoing Leopard 2 MBT modernisation.

turdef.com

Possible continuation of business links with Chile. Claimed Aselsan offer of modernizing up to 270 Chilean Marder 1A3s with Aselsan gear. No details on the scope of the program. But Chilean links are nothing new, Aselsan was tasked with modernizing radios of these vehicles few years ago as well.

"Following the Leopard 2A4 MBT modernisation package to be delivered by ASELSAN, another package is on the horizon. Chile-based defence news platform La Trinchera reported that Chilean officials have begun discussing a modernisation package for German-made Marder 1A3 IFVs with their Turkish counterparts.

Chile Considers Modernisation for Marder IFV with Turkiye | TURDEF

Chilean and Turkish officials have begun discussions on a modernisation package proposal for German-made Marder 1A3 IFVs in the Chilean Army service.

turdef.com

 

[what]

I believe that South Korea was on 10th place 2024 according to SIPRI with around 10bln €. Doable but would be a significant increase.

 

[Tornadoss]

Our 4x4 vehicles, which are currently in the inventory in Kazakhstan, and 8x8 vehicles, which successfully completed the tests, participated in the military parade in honor of Defenders of the Fatherland Day in Kazakhstan.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920099785966596419

So it selected over SA vehicle and already delivered.

 

[Sanchez]

So it selected over SA vehicle and already delivered.

Remains to be seen.

 

[Fairon]

So it selected over SA vehicle and already delivered.

As per Otokar's wording, Arma's only participated in the parade and not delivered yet, unlike Cobra 2.

Whole Parade

Военный парад в Астане | Прямая трансляция | 07.05.2025

7 мая 2025 года в 11:00 часов в Астане состоится масштабный военный парад, приуроченный ко Дню защитника Отечества и 80-летию Победы в Великой Отечественной ...

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Other new 8x8 vehicles also appear to have participated as well. (starting at 02:39:50)

 

[iLookForward]

Does anyone have the export calendar for 2024 posted by SSB? Also can't seem to find the export calendar for 2025.

 

[Sanchez]

Turkiye will have the second-largest international presence at Spain's major defence and aviation fair FEINDEF, showcasing its strength with key firms.

TUSAŞ, Roketsan, Havelsan, MKE, FNSS, Nurol Makina, Canik, SDT, Savronik, CES, and Sarsılmaz will prominently represent Turkiye. Turkiye is set to have the second-largest international representation at the event following Spanish firms.

The Spanish Ministry of Defence, the Ministry of Interior or the Spanish Air Force will be visible at the event. The only foreign defence institution with a dedicated stand is Turkiye's Secretariat of Defence Industries (SSB).

Spain's Defence and Aerospace Fair FEINDEF Opens Tomorrow | TURDEF

Turkiye will have the second-largest international presence at Spain's major defence and aviation fair FEINDEF, showcasing its strength with key firms.

turdef.com

No deals are expected per talks, but let's see.

 

[Azeri441]

As per Otokar's wording, Arma's only participated in the parade and not delivered yet, unlike Cobra 2.




Other new 8x8 vehicles also appear to have participated as well. (starting at 02:39:50)

if they are showing 3 vehicles at the parade then its pretty much a done deal, they are probably conducting negotiations over the purchase as of now.

 

[Iskander]

Does anyone have the export calendar for 2024 posted by SSB? Also can't seem to find the export calendar for 2025.

Here is the data for the last 15 years.

Оборонный экспорт Турции достигает новых высот благодаря европейским соглашениям 2024 года

Оборонная промышленность Турции неуклонно расширяет свое присутствие в Европе

armiya.az

 

[Sanchez]

if they are showing 3 vehicles at the parade then its pretty much a done deal, they are probably conducting negotiations over the purchase as of now.

They are doing those negotiations for the last 5 years almost. Arma was the clear winner of the tests over 2 years ago.

 

[Sanchez]

Spain is eyeing a new 6x6 program as a "stopgap" measure for the problematic 8x8 VCR Dragon while also possibly lowering the total 1000 number for Dragons. Turkish firms will possibly take part in the tender process. Indra and Otokar had signed a cooperation deal last week, and Indra also created a new JV with Edge in UAE.

Defensa prepara la licitación de un nuevo blindado de seis ruedas mientras se resuelve el problema con los 8x8 Dragón

La opción de Indra para comprar la planta de Santa Bárbara en Trubia daría lugar a una reordenación del sector en torno a esos dos contratos Más información: El Gobierno presiona a Indra para que compre Santa Bárbara y salve el 8x8, blindado estrella de Defensa

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Otokar isn't present at Feindef-25. But Arma II with an EM&E 105mm turret and Indra radars is shown on the Indra stand next to a Dragon VCR. I don't expect much to arrive from it, especially after yesterday's news about Indra looking to buy Iveco's military division. With good moves, a joint Spanish/Italian/Turkish company to rival GDLS(UK/Spanish) and KNDS(German/French) could emerge, but more likely it would be Spanish/Italian. Let's see if the Indra bid with Arma wins the Spanish stopgap contract.

Indra and Otokar Cooperate on ARMA II 8x8 Armoured Vehicle | TURDEF

Spanish Indra exhibited Otokar’s ARMA II 8x8 armoured vehicle with a 105 mm turret during the FEINDEF’25 exhibition held in Spain, signalling a joint work.

turdef.com

 

[Sanchez]

Spain is eyeing a new 6x6 program as a "stopgap" measure for the problematic 8x8 VCR Dragon while also possibly lowering the total 1000 number for Dragons. Turkish firms will possibly take part in the tender process. Indra and Otokar had signed a cooperation deal last week, and Indra also created a new JV with Edge in UAE.

Defensa prepara la licitación de un nuevo blindado de seis ruedas mientras se resuelve el problema con los 8x8 Dragón

La opción de Indra para comprar la planta de Santa Bárbara en Trubia daría lugar a una reordenación del sector en torno a esos dos contratos Más información: El Gobierno presiona a Indra para que compre Santa Bárbara y salve el 8x8, blindado estrella de Defensa

www.elespanol.com

Very interesting, FNSS also signed a MoU with Cockerill and 2 Spanish companies, TSD and Oesia to present a design for the same program.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1922544082473095674

 

[Saithan]

Very interesting, FNSS also signed a MoU with Cockerill and 2 Spanish companies, TSD and Oesia to present a design for the same program.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1922544082473095674

We still don't a have a turret /barrel as good as what cockerill makes right ?