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I don't think it's going to be as forecasted. It would require an active politic of battling inflation and debt, none of which is present.
 

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Just a reminder WB loan is not interest free either. So what's the point of taking this loan ? IMO it would be better to avoid taking foreign loan, but why bother pointing this out to some ppl.
Dude. Yandaş people needs to be fed. And they dont have any money on Central Bank. They need to take loan to throwing it away like they wasted 128 billion dollars.

So they took 265 million. That means

250 million will spend on bridge guarantees.
14 million will go to Kartal Imam Hatip graduates.
And maybe they buy dragon fruit with the rest.
 

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These Swap deals are not really a good thing for Turkey considering the non existing budget discipline. Which is the reason to make these swaps. It actually fits China's loan deal concept very well.


Mahfi Eğilmez: Center's reserves minus 56 billion dollars​


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These Swap deals are not really a good thing for Turkey considering the non existing budget discipline. Which is the reason to make these swaps. It actually fits China's loan deal concept very well.


Mahfi Eğilmez: Center's reserves minus 56 billion dollars​


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And yet the AKPeons still ask for evidence when we tell them that the country is bankrupt, there is no healing for blindness after all.
At this speed 2023 will make 2001 look like a walk in the park, you guys just pray that we can pull another Kemal Dervis until then, yoksa vay halinize.
 

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These Swap deals are not really a good thing for Turkey considering the non existing budget discipline. Which is the reason to make these swaps. It actually fits China's loan deal concept very well.


Mahfi Eğilmez: Center's reserves minus 56 billion dollars​


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Yes its easier route to sustain a current account deficit (a balm to slow various high fever signalling by the currency)....rather than do the hard reform as to why the deficit is there.

i.e the govt "trust" in each other intervenes above what the market is doing by itself.

Similar to "easy" loan buffet like you say, but those are capital account side of it.
 

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general cargo is back

Sadly nothing can be done
Major steel container manufacturers are located in china and they cant export due to the pandemic and turkish businessmen dont wanna enter this field because they will be outcompeted by china after the pandemic
I guess they will have to suck it up
 

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Though no trust remains, so this is waste of your breath.
 
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Though no trust remains, so this is waste of your breath.

145 billion short term debt means its increased by about 22 billion USD in 2 years time (world bank had it at around 123 billion in 2019 as in my previous post). About 8.6% increase per year effectively. Not good given situation.
 
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Turkey is far behind the EU in purchasing power



According to Purchasing Power Parity (PPP), Turkey's per capita gross domestic product (GDP) index value was 64. This figure fell 36 percent behind the EU average.



ANKA21.06.2021

The Turkish Statistical Institute (TÜİK) announced the provisional results of the SGP prepared by the European Union Statistical Office (Eurostat). PPP is defined as the price ratio of a standardized basket of goods and services, defined in detail, in different countries.

Thus, price level differences between countries are eliminated and real price and volume comparisons can be made internationally. According to the PPP, per capita GDP index for 2020, while the average of 27 European Union (EU) countries was 100, this value was 64 for Turkey and was 36 percent below the EU average.

In comparisons, 27 EU member states, 3 European Free Trade Association (EFTA) countries (Switzerland, Iceland and Norway), 5 candidate countries (Turkey, North Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Albania), one potential candidate country (Bosnia-Herzegovina) and United Kingdom covered. Among the 37 countries included in the comparisons, the country with the highest GDP per capita index according to PPP was Luxembourg with 266, and the lowest country was Albania with 31. In the GDP per capita index, Luxembourg was 166 percent above the EU average and Albania was 69 percent below the average.

PRODUCT PURCHASED FOR 100 EURO IN EUROPE, 32 EURO IN TURKEY

The price level index is calculated as an indicator of the purchasing power of the national currencies of the countries according to the comparative exchange rate. If the price level index of a country is greater than 100, this country is defined as "expensive" compared to the country group average, and if it is less than 100, this country is defined as "cheap" compared to the country group average.

Turkey's price level index for actual individual consumption became 32 according to the provisional results for 2020. This value showed that the same basket of goods and services purchased for 100 euros across EU countries can be purchased with 32 euros in Turkish lira (TL) in Turkey.

TURKEY'S

Consumption

LEVEL WAS 72 PER CAPITA IN 2020


Per capita consumption is the yearly use of goods and services by each person, derived by dividing the quantity of goods and services used by the total population.


While comparing the development levels of countries is based on the gross domestic product per capita, actual individual consumption indices per capita are accepted as a more appropriate indicator when comparing the relative welfare levels of consumers. Actual individual consumption includes services provided by the government or non-profit organizations (education, health, etc.) in addition to the goods and services purchased by consumers.

While the actual level of individual consumption per capita was 100 in 27 European Union (EU) countries, it was 72 for Turkey and was 28 percent below the EU average. Among the 37 countries included in the comparisons, the country with the highest actual individual consumption per capita was Luxembourg with 131, and the lowest country was Albania with 40.




Although the same basket of goods and services purchased for 100 euros across EU countries can be purchased with 32 euros in Turkish lira (TL) in Turkey, Turkish people can't consume the basket.

No matter prices are more expensive in the EU , European citizens consume more good and service .

Note that index is calculated per Capita . they divided total quantity of service and goods by population country.
Considering income inequality in Turkey , numbers will be worse while EU has income equality.
 
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Turkey is far behind the EU in purchasing power



According to Purchasing Power Parity (PPP), Turkey's per capita gross domestic product (GDP) index value was 64. This figure fell 36 percent behind the EU average.



ANKA21.06.2021

The Turkish Statistical Institute (TÜİK) announced the provisional results of the SGP prepared by the European Union Statistical Office (Eurostat). PPP is defined as the price ratio of a standardized basket of goods and services, defined in detail, in different countries.

Thus, price level differences between countries are eliminated and real price and volume comparisons can be made internationally. According to the PPP, per capita GDP index for 2020, while the average of 27 European Union (EU) countries was 100, this value was 64 for Turkey and was 36 percent below the EU average.

In comparisons, 27 EU member states, 3 European Free Trade Association (EFTA) countries (Switzerland, Iceland and Norway), 5 candidate countries (Turkey, North Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Albania), one potential candidate country (Bosnia-Herzegovina) and United Kingdom covered. Among the 37 countries included in the comparisons, the country with the highest GDP per capita index according to PPP was Luxembourg with 266, and the lowest country was Albania with 31. In the GDP per capita index, Luxembourg was 166 percent above the EU average and Albania was 69 percent below the average.

PRODUCT PURCHASED FOR 100 EURO IN EUROPE, 32 EURO IN TURKEY

The price level index is calculated as an indicator of the purchasing power of the national currencies of the countries according to the comparative exchange rate. If the price level index of a country is greater than 100, this country is defined as "expensive" compared to the country group average, and if it is less than 100, this country is defined as "cheap" compared to the country group average.

Turkey's price level index for actual individual consumption became 32 according to the provisional results for 2020. This value showed that the same basket of goods and services purchased for 100 euros across EU countries can be purchased with 32 euros in Turkish lira (TL) in Turkey.

TURKEY'S

Consumption

LEVEL WAS 72 PER CAPITA IN 2020


Per capita consumption is the yearly use of goods and services by each person, derived by dividing the quantity of goods and services used by the total population.


While comparing the development levels of countries is based on the gross domestic product per capita, actual individual consumption indices per capita are accepted as a more appropriate indicator when comparing the relative welfare levels of consumers. Actual individual consumption includes services provided by the government or non-profit organizations (education, health, etc.) in addition to the goods and services purchased by consumers.

While the actual level of individual consumption per capita was 100 in 27 European Union (EU) countries, it was 72 for Turkey and was 28 percent below the EU average. Among the 37 countries included in the comparisons, the country with the highest actual individual consumption per capita was Luxembourg with 131, and the lowest country was Albania with 40.




Although the same basket of goods and services purchased for 100 euros across EU countries can be purchased with 32 euros in Turkish lira (TL) in Turkey, Turkish people can't consume the basket.

No matter prices are more expensive in the EU , European citizens consume more good and service .

Note that index is calculated per Capita . they divided total quantity of service and goods by population country.
Considering income inequality in Turkey , numbers will be worse while EU has income equality.

To add to what you mention....

A big issue with PPP (as good as it improves upon just using exchange rate for GDP) is it also has to stick to official price levels reported by the country.

So the issue is lot of hidden inflation is inevitably missed....as the CPI index (especially its composition) is only so good for each country depending on their internal institutional statistical independence+credibility from political pressures etc.
 

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