The development of end-to-end and intra-system communication technologies is increasingly unlocking the potential of distributed system architectures. For example, an airplane with a very modest physical payload can now fly with multiple loyal wing drones and use the systems and munitions on them with extremely high efficiency, as if the airplane itself were carrying them. In the operational scheme of a modern air force, complex systems of systems have been operating for decades, but what I am talking about is the development of artificial intelligence, decision support systems and autonomy, and the gradual sub-layering of these systems into micromanagement. If you are strong in avionics and have full access to yours combat flying platforms, with the right system architecture and doctrine, it is possible to increase the deterrence of aircraft with extremely limited physical capabilities to a previously unimaginable extent.There are a lot of rivals of Hürjet . İf TUSAŞ aims export , they should promise more . Stealthy micro trainer and fighter would be great.
Urgent upgrades don't necessarily have to have negative connotation, the urgency maybe making them in time before sending the jet for evaluation by potential customers.There are unverified rumours about I Sunnetci’s statement regarding Turkey buying some of the unwanted A400M transport planes. (6 out of 7 with Germany getting the other)
There were news that S Korea was offering Spain their trainer aircraft. Spain came back with a counter offer to give them A400Ms at the 15% price of 27million dollars a piece as a swap deal.
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South Korea and Spain seek deal to swap trainer jets for airlifters
The deal may involve about 50 basic and advanced trainer jets built by Korea Aerospace Industries, and four to six Airbus A400M airlifters.www.defensenews.com
Hurjet was offered to the Spanish.
Hurjet was not brought to Farnborough, because it had to go through urgent upgrades.
Now we are hearing that Hurjet is to go to Spain.
2 x 2 = ???
Any thoughts??
This concept won't materialize as UCAVs will dominate the light stealth fighter segment.I kept saying that Hurjet should have been designed to make it easy to turn it into a cheap, light stealth fighter, sort of like the Su 75, and it looks like the US is also interested in the idea.
yahoo.com air force floats light stealth fighter.
Nice articleI kept saying that Hurjet should have been designed to make it easy to turn it into a cheap, light stealth fighter, sort of like the Su 75, and it looks like the US is also interested in the idea.
yahoo.com air force floats light stealth fighter.
And lose every single advantage it has? Future is unmanned, there isn't a single reason to turn KE into a manned fighter, an area Baykar has no experience in, and make it bigger (because it isn't just putting a cockpit and a seat, you have to put a lot more equipment) and more expensive and spend years testing it to end up with a plane that has very low payload or much bigger than KE to have a proper payload. KE's advantage is being relatively cheap when compared to other 5th gen fighters (even if it isn't just as capable) and being unmanned it can pull manoeuvres they cannot. There isn't a single logical reason to turn it into a manned system.Nice article
Or Kızılelma should be transformed into manned
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‘Light Fighter’ Concept Emerges During US Air Force Chief’s Speech at UK's Air and Space Power Association Amid NGAD’s Uncertain Future
Allvin unveiled what the Royal Aeronautical Society has later defined as a ‘notional Light Fighter concept’ while calling for a shift of the nexttheaviationist.com
Nice idea, a 5. Gen F-16 like.Nice article
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‘Light Fighter’ Concept Emerges During US Air Force Chief’s Speech at UK's Air and Space Power Association Amid NGAD’s Uncertain Future
Allvin unveiled what the Royal Aeronautical Society has later defined as a ‘notional Light Fighter concept’ while calling for a shift of the nexttheaviationist.com
I like your enthusiasm. I wish if it were that simple though. What you are suggesting entails substantial changes.The only thing we need for the Hurjet is an engine with a physical diameter under 90cm and a dry weight under 1200kg, that can generate around 100kN of emergency power with afterburner. To give an exact equivalent example, the F414-GE-39E developed by GE for Gripen. Everything else is ready or at the test level.
If the light attack platform being developed within the scope of the Hürjet project can be shaped around this class of engine, we will have a platform that can continue its development in the direction of whatever is needed, lets say electronic attack, node for drone wings, reco, light/naval attack jet etc., and whose operating costs and logistics system will be extremely advantageous.
Even with a limited payload, short-range and single-engine platform like Gripen; can respond to many needs. Arming the Hürjet with a one level more powerful engine will enable the emergence of a system that is a direct equivalent of the Gripen NG, which can be a very valuable solution in terms of the economy of an air force that also combats both asymmetric threats and facing very near distance threats but needs around / over 300 front line jets in terms of total fleet size.
But if we're going to go through all that trouble of virtually designing a whole new plane from scratch, wouldn't we be better off with 1 TF35K power lighter version of Kaan? That would be worth the trouble much more than a modified Hürjet as it would be a proper light 5th gen fighter and would be much, much better for a carrier.But, still, your post has merits to think about. We can change the nose and fuselage to be stealthy, alter the shape of air inlets, introduce a delta wing and make the airframe more suitable for air combat and higher speed. Then that plane is not really Hurjet though.
In fact, then, the F414 will be the handicap for that plane. We will need 2 x TF12000 engines (8000lbf dry and 12000lbf wet thrust version of TF10000engine) to give us our stealth twin engined “lightish” fighter jet. When navalised, it would be the right plane for operation from our future carrier.
So.. I-22 Sikatan was not a dumb idea at all.Nice article
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‘Light Fighter’ Concept Emerges During US Air Force Chief’s Speech at UK's Air and Space Power Association Amid NGAD’s Uncertain Future
Allvin unveiled what the Royal Aeronautical Society has later defined as a ‘notional Light Fighter concept’ while calling for a shift of the nexttheaviationist.com
No, the US is not interested, it is only an idea of one man.and it looks like the US is also interested in the idea.
5th gen F-16 is called F-35 and it is not a light fighter.Nice idea, a 5. Gen F-16 like.
TurAF should first increase the ordered number of aircrafts to replace the T-38 before anything else, current order is to replace the NF-5s of Turkish Stars after all. Navy Design Office's carrier design clearly have Hürjets on it, so we know that the navy is interested in a combat variant even if air force isn't. We expect Spain to buy the thing, when our own air force hasn't fully subscribed to the project yet.I have a feeling that TurAF has no great interest in a CAS Hürjet and that configuration is more aimed for export.
Instead imho TurAF has more interest in Air/Air Hürjet to control UCAVs, and the Air/Air configuration will be purely for self defence measures.
We saw the thing from all possible angles and in flight, it has an F404.I read somewhere that the first prototype flew with F110-129 Engine instead of F404 Engine.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Without going in to aerodynamics 101 too much, let us just look at the forces that play a part in flight.Among the main characteristics, the one that stands out is the payload lifting capacity of around 6500lb. This reference is based on statements made 5-6 years ago. With current data, we understand that this characteristic has been formed with the current engine configuration. Therefore, the first and foremost consideration should be engines that can produce higher power in the same diameter and dry weight class without changing main airframe design of the aircraft.
I am not an aeronautical engineer, but one thing is that the relationship between power increase and lift capacity increase is not linear. For example, a 25% increase in power can provide a lifting capacity that is more than that. The other issue is that the jet can increase its lift capacity with avionics improvements and structural advances.