Has Macron declared war on Islam?

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Reis has no regards against dollars raising in Turkish economy. Sad days for Turkey.

He is not saying anything when S.Arabia boycotts us. (Cause there's an anti Turk motive and he hates Turks) But when some French guy draws a thing, hold on you gotta start a War!

B.S. diplomacy all over!

And IIRC his wife has some fancy 50 thousand dollars French purse.
 

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You can read what he said and on Islam.
Words mean nothing. It is said once and disappears in a moment. Muslims always insult other religions and yet they are still alive and practised by billions of people..
 

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What a hypocrite....Just the other week Turkey was complaining about Saudi boycott calling it a violation of WTO rules and now they do this.
If the boycott affects France, the EU must close ranks and hammer Turkey economically....no European tourists, no investments, nothing, nada, RIEN....let them eat cake and Erdogan s fairytales

According to the French customs,France exported €508 billion worth of goods and €251 billion worth of services in 2019,the entire middle east only accounting for 3%.

I'll list the trade between France and the countries that have called for the boycott of French products ;

Turkey ;

French exports to Turkey : €5,9 billion
French imports from Turkey : €8,7 billion

Qatar ;

French exports to Qatar : €3,8 billion
French imports from Qatar : €678 million

Kuwait ;

French exports to Kuwait : €526 million
French imports from Kuwait : €214 million

Jordan ;

French exports to Jordan : €212 million
French imports from Jordan : €26 million

Iran ;

French exports to Iran : €376 million
French imports from Iran : €46 million

Pakistan ;

French exports to Pakistan : €396 million
French imports from Pakistan : €914 million

Just to put things into perspective.

Belgium ;

French exports to Belgium : €34,2 billion
French imports from Belgium : €38 billion
 
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Macron's approval rating is taking a free-fall in France. He uses Islamophobia to distract the public away from himself.

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Islamophobia and anti-Turkey stances are good leverage for politicians to get gains from european bigotry populism. Europe is becoming more and more radical, by gaining religious and racial hates.

It serves as a lifeline before every election process or when leaders have difficulty managing domestic political crises. Forget France, Austria or Belgium, even German politicians gradually becoming part of this populism.

Politicians are growing this fire by throwing wood. And while the fire grows, the gaining of those who carry wood also increase. All these are snapshots from 1930s Europe.
 

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Islam is long due for reform sadly. The more the people take refuge in Western values to defend criticism of Islam the more they are not seeing the problem.
Christianity went through reforms. Hinduism is going through it. It's quite a long process.
How many times this 99.9% of the population is peace loving argument is going to make sense? For every one attacker there are probably 100 radicals from either side shaping his thought process of the religion. The more Imams are streamlined, minimum age for religious education brought in and the first and foremost the courage to accept that there is an issue and this reform has to come from within the community. If they don't take up, then they shouldn't blame if the state's take up the reform.
 

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Saudi Arabia and their backward Wahhabi ideology has been the strongest factor against any reform. It was the Wahhabis which preached that modern governments are all infidels and that Muslims have to overthrow their governments and rule by Shariah.

Before Wahhabism took root, Ayub Khan in Pakistan reformed the Muslim family laws. But after Wahhabism took root in Pakistan any such reforms would be unthinkable.

All the West needs to do is to recognize the problem (KSA) and stop protecting it with legitimacy, arms and money. If KSA falls, then Wahhabism will fall along with it and Islamic extremism will largely be over, just as it is not a serious thing in Indonesia/Malaysia/Bangladesh.

Bangladesh closed down all Middle-Eastern funded mosques back in 2005-6 and therefore we just don't have any subculture of extremism.
 
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Alright after years of interactions and studying of the Western and primarily European Right Wing I have to come to a simple understanding that could explain the hostility to Certain Muslim immigrants and it's not religion primary reason is and will always be race,from 9/11 to like 2018 the pro Zionist Counter "Jihad" due to the tragedy of terrorism that afflicted the west and America in the early 2000s used the right wing as cannon fodder to rally the mainstream narrative for Middle Eastern wars and intervention the election of Trump/Brexit led to rise of populist right opposed to these intervention and in some circles of Israel anyways simple analysis unlike America which is a settler colony Western Europe mainly gets Muslim immigrants from South Asia,North Africa and to a extent Eastern Turkey,the racial tensions were there since advent of guest worker immigration schemes of the 1950s 1960s and 1970s always was about race the supposed "Islamophobia" is veener or racial hatred towards non whites Europe did not flinch when it help the White Bosniaks and White Albanians in the mid to late 90s when Yugoslavia was buring down if they were a billion Bosnians,Albanians,Tatars
,Chechens*non Islamist ones or Western Balkan Turks from Izmir and Istanbul who primarily are Muslim they would not flinch at all they would be like Ashkenazi Jews so the hatred is primary to Arabs,Pakistanis,and Anatolian Turks
@Kaptaan @T-123456 @Nilgiri
 
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I am Turkish. Turks will rip apart that Arabic tale and become themselves again.

If you want mods do something about me, well that's only prove my claim about you arap worshippers.

Do you support polygamy????

Answer this question.
 

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Alright after years of interactions and studying of the Western and primarily European Right Wing I have to come to a simple understanding that could explain the hostility to Certain Muslim immigrants and it's not religion primary reason is and will always be race,from 9/11 to like 2018 the pro Zionist Counter "Jihad" due to the tragedy of terrorism that afflicted the west and America in the early 2000s used the right wing as cannon fodder to rally the mainstream narrative for Middle Eastern wars and intervention the election of Trump/Brexit led to rise of populist right opposed to these intervention and in some circles of Israel anyways simple analysis unlike America which is a settler colony Western Europe mainly gets Muslim immigrants from South Asia,North Africa and to a extent Eastern Turkey,the racial tensions were there since advent of guest worker immigration schemes of the 1950s 1960s and 1970s always was about race the supposed "Islamophobia" is veener or racial hatred towards non whites Europe did not flinch when it help the White Bosniaks and White Albanians in the mid to late 90s when Yugoslavia was buring down if they were a billion Bosnians,Albanians,Tatars
,Chechens*non Islamist ones or Western Balkan Turks from Izmir and Istanbul who primarily are Muslim they would not flinch at all they would be like Ashkenazi Jews so the hatred is primary to Arabs,Pakistanis,and Anatolian Turks
@Kaptaan @T-123456 @Nilgiri

Humans by nature are racist.

Its an instinct.
 

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What I don't understand is this: Why are we not talking about this Muslim guy who beheaded that poor teacher? We are only talking about Macron. smh
Good question. Lets start to talk about Wests and how they promote extremism worldwide and creating such individuals. Cause effect principle.
 

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Words mean nothing. It is said once and disappears in a moment. Muslims always insult other religions and yet they are still alive and practised by billions of people..

You act like as if Muslims are the only ones who insult peoples religions when there is examples of other religions doing it too.

If people are so ardent about free speech. Perhaps it should be allowed to insult anything from race, ethnicity, religion and culture.

Let the gates be opened for everybody.
 

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Interview with Clementine. Where she points at the populist movement and how politicians have moved to being more far left than anything.
 

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the war on islam started with the attack on iraq..
 

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