Indeed....with the President delivering speech and Senior Minister there, strong indication we are back in the game. Now just have to find the money....
Indeed....with the President delivering speech and Senior Minister there, strong indication we are back in the game. Now just have to find the money....
Alhamdulillah only when we settle our outstanding debt
If the price is $65 mil means we only need to spend like $8.5 bil (incl. the dev cost) for the next 30 yrs. 
I don't mind to have 100 KFX Block III (the full 5th gen) tbh
When can we get the first aircraft based on the current projected timeline?
I always love the way it looks
For the looks only, for any fighter, Double seater version almost always win in my opinion.I always love the way it looks
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The song below started to echo in my head
Ps(1): isn't buying 48-80 units part of the deal?I don't mean to ruin the party, but this is what I worry about the KFX program:
Teknologi & Pembiayaan, Tantangan Proyek Jet KFX Prabowo
RI melalui Menteri Pertahanan RI, Prabowo Subianto sepakat untuk melanjutkan program jet tempur bersama Korea Selatan
Specifically, the tech part (I don't think Connie mentioned about the engine, I'd like to add that). 1-2 billion USD is quite cheap, I'm sure the gov can easily fund it, IF they want to.
But what about if we don't get the tech? We were so happy at the start of the program, because back then we thought it'd mean "kemandirian", but as things goes on, turn out the "kemandirian" we got is ONLY about the airframe (since our engineers helped drawing the aircraft).
I don't want us to replace the US and / or the Europe and exchange it to Korea. In fact, I believe this is why the Korean is so insistent in keeping us on the KFX program. It is very easy for them to fund the gap if we left, but if we stay, and say in 2030 we have enough budget for 100 KFX aircrafts (our defense budget is keep increasing, it is very possible), imagine how much money is going to their way since we need them to provide EVERYTHING, except the airframe?
I hope Prabowo (the government) can negotiate a better deal for us.
PS:
(1) Or, alternatively, we take the "airframe knowledge", pay the rest of the "obligation" (2 billion in exchange of knowing how to built an aircrafts body is still acceptable), then go on our way. Open negotiation with the others (France, or even the US) to provide us with the necessary tech.
(2) I don't hate / dislike the Korean, I just don't like to be put on a situation where our supposedly future backbone fighters in entirely dependent on them (on one country).
From what I remember, the initial batch will be 200, and we get (buy / built) 40 >>> 20%
I wouldn't be surprised and actually supportive if in the future we ditch the U.S., Europe, and Russia and buy fighters from Korea, Japan, and Turkey instead
This was exactly the early step we went through when we started the C-212 at the end of 70's and early of 80's. We learned from Spain's CASA first on how to mastery the modern manufacturing technology for aircraft production. Then proceed on technology integration and co-development of CN-235, and so on, until the indigenous N-250 and N-2130 program was that close to be materialized. Unfortunately, the 1998 monetary crisis wiped out the nation's dream.I don't mean to ruin the party, but this is what I worry about the KFX program:
Teknologi & Pembiayaan, Tantangan Proyek Jet KFX Prabowo
RI melalui Menteri Pertahanan RI, Prabowo Subianto sepakat untuk melanjutkan program jet tempur bersama Korea Selatan
Specifically, the tech part (I don't think Connie mentioned about the engine, I'd like to add that). 1-2 billion USD is quite cheap, I'm sure the gov can easily fund it, IF they want to.
But what about if we don't get the tech? We were so happy at the start of the program, because back then we thought it'd mean "kemandirian", but as things goes on, turn out the "kemandirian" we got is ONLY about the airframe (since our engineers helped drawing the aircraft).
I don't want us to replace the US and / or the Europe and exchange it to Korea. In fact, I believe this is why the Korean is so insistent in keeping us on the KFX program. It is very easy for them to fund the gap if we left, but if we stay, and say in 2030 we have enough budget for 100 KFX aircrafts (our defense budget is keep increasing, it is very possible), imagine how much money is going to their way since we need them to provide EVERYTHING, except the airframe?
I hope Prabowo (the government) can negotiate a better deal for us.
PS:
(1) Or, alternatively, we take the "airframe knowledge", pay the rest of the "obligation" (2 billion in exchange of knowing how to built an aircrafts body is still acceptable), then go on our way. Open negotiation with the others (France, or even the US) to provide us with the necessary tech.
(2) I don't hate / dislike the Korean, I just don't like to be put on a situation where our supposedly future backbone fighters in entirely dependent on them (on one country).
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I don't mean to ruin the party, but this is what I worry about the KFX program:
Teknologi & Pembiayaan, Tantangan Proyek Jet KFX Prabowo
RI melalui Menteri Pertahanan RI, Prabowo Subianto sepakat untuk melanjutkan program jet tempur bersama Korea Selatan
Specifically, the tech part (I don't think Connie mentioned about the engine, I'd like to add that). 1-2 billion USD is quite cheap, I'm sure the gov can easily fund it, IF they want to.
But what about if we don't get the tech? We were so happy at the start of the program, because back then we thought it'd mean "kemandirian", but as things goes on, turn out the "kemandirian" we got is ONLY about the airframe (since our engineers helped drawing the aircraft).
I don't want us to replace the US and / or the Europe and exchange it to Korea. In fact, I believe this is why the Korean is so insistent in keeping us on the KFX program. It is very easy for them to fund the gap if we left, but if we stay, and say in 2030 we have enough budget for 100 KFX aircrafts (our defense budget is keep increasing, it is very possible), imagine how much money is going to their way since we need them to provide EVERYTHING, except the airframe?
I hope Prabowo (the government) can negotiate a better deal for us.
PS:
(1) Or, alternatively, we take the "airframe knowledge", pay the rest of the "obligation" (2 billion in exchange of knowing how to built an aircrafts body is still acceptable), then go on our way. Open negotiation with the others (France, or even the US) to provide us with the necessary tech.
(2) I don't hate / dislike the Korean, I just don't like to be put on a situation where our supposedly future backbone fighters in entirely dependent on them (on one country).
