Defence Q&A Is the Iranian army really strong enough to invade Azerbaijan? Will Turkey allow this?

[Cabatli_TR]

Instead of discussing this issue on the topic of the Karabakh war, you can discuss it here.

Is it as simple as some Iranians think to invade Azerbaijan, totally supported by Turkish war induatry and army, which has the most comprehensive combination of conventional and state of art weapons against an Iran that uses ballistic missiles and drones as its main army element ? We have an Iran that has made it a duty to meddle in Azerbaijan's internal affairs after Karabakh war and this Iran has completely lost its influence in the Caucasus region with the initiative of Turkey, but what is the result Iran is trying to reach with such threatening approaches?

Why is Iran raising such a loud voice from the corridor to be opened between Nakhchivan and Azerbaijan ? Could the activities of Turkey and Azerbaijan in the region have made Iran feel inadequate and worthless ? That's why, maybe they are making such provocations to be a role-grabbing and to be remembered at the table? You can discuss these issues in this section.

 

[Ryder]

Lots of people have drones these days, but no one was able to utilise them in the "shock and awe" style Turkey was, except for Azerbaijan. Many people even speculate it was really Turkish drone operators of that conflict. If so no one has been able to use drones in the way Turkey has.

In Libya Haftar for example had more drones, technically better drones in pure stats and was using them for longer. But he couldn't do 5% of what Turkey was able to do using drones.

In syria the civil has been going on 10 years, only Turkey was able to display such drone destruction, not assad, not iran, not russia, not isreal.

Haftar's army is mostly all militias who only care about looting and killing when the real fighting happens they flee.

They spent a year laying siege to Tripoli.

 

[Oublious]

It's not that expensive for them + it's for propaganda and giving a message to Saudi Arabia + Israel + America
Their BM Got High Accuracy
They got a ton of cruise missiles its not big of a deal
if azerabijan win nagorno karabakh
doesn't mean they can defeat iran

Azer got what 10-20 LORA
Maybe 50 / 70 Harop
250 NLOS

yeah we saw the accuracy of that missiles. You can not win a war with BM or cruisemissiles, airforce is the key and not drone.

 

[Nuclear]

yeah we saw the accuracy of that missiles. You can not win a war with BM or cruisemissiles, airforce is the key and not drone.

Azerbaijan got a weak air force

 

[Oublious]

Azerbaijan got a weak air force

Iran have nothing to compare it with Azerbadjian. the question is all of that fighters of iran air worthly?

 

[Xenon54]

Azerbaijan got a weak air force

There were and probably still are Turkish F-16s in Azerbaijan, those armed with Amraam are more than enough for anything coming from Iran.

 

[Nuclear]

Iran have nothing to compare it with Azerbadjian. the question is all of that fighters of iran air worthly?

At Least they got

MIG29 / F-14 / F-5 / SU-24

Azerbaijan

7 Migs 29
MIG21
Su-25 / 12

 

[GoatsMilk]

At Least they got

MIG29 / F-14 / F-5 / SU-24

Azerbaijan

7 Migs 29
MIG21
Su-25 / 12

Rationally Iran being 80 million plus with an abundance in oil and gas, should be a giant compared to Azerbaijan with just 10 million. However people rationally argue that Iran would have an exceptional hard time invading Azerbaijan. I personally don't think Iran could pull it off. Outside of messy proxy warfare they have shown no ability to fight a conventional war. In Syria if the Russian airforce didn't get involved they lose there against a rebel force that had no real army and was comprised of hundreds if not thousands of factions all killing each other.

Now compare that with Turkey, if there war was between Azerbaijan and Turkey (which isnt possible) you would easily expect 80 million plus Turkey to absolutely cripple Azerbaijan.

 

[Ryder]

And they Azeris of Tabriz will massacre you again if you dare you invade their lands.

By the time we invade Tabriz. Tabriz will break away from Iran

Azerbaijanis in Iran want to join up with Azerbaijan LOL

 

[Anastasius]

Hezbollah made Israeli weapons joke like Iran will to do aliyev if he is stupid enough. Don’t think your child fight with Armenia will make you fight the mighty giants

Yes, Hezbollah indeed proved how much of a joke they are on many occasions. Iran, the mighty giant? More like Iran, the screeching midget.

And they Azeris of Tabriz will massacre you again if you dare you invade their lands.

If Iran keeps acting like assholes towards their minorities, I don't think it's Turks they're going to be massacring...

 

[Anastasius]

You are the last to speak about minorities specifically with your fascist Turkish and turanian nonsense.

I've never spoken of Turan before. But thanks for putting words in my mouth, my dear Iraqi friend. I'm sure the mullahs and the IRGC appreciate your steadfast devotion.

 

[Anastasius]

Just like the Netanyahu appreciate yours.

???

Again, didn't bring up Netanyahu or Israel. Why do you continue putting words in my mouth?

 

[Barry]

lads use the ignore feature.

 

[Ryder]

You mean the stolen republic of arran and shervan return to the real and only Azerbaijan which is in Iran?!!

see you don’t even know the history and geography abd that the republic of arran and shervan was changed by the Russians to claim the Iranian side isn’t ironic you complain about Russian imperialism yet you repeat their propaganda?!

Azerbaijanis are not Iranian or Iranic they are Turkic.

 

[Ryder]

Not really majority of their DNA is local Caucasian which isn’t Iranian or Turkic.

Dna changes nothing

 

[iceream]

Those missiles can only hit passenger planes or syrians DD Inferior desert scum

The same Turkic shahs that massacred your rum osmanlis

isn’t ironic that’s the Safavids we’re More Turkic than your rumi sultans!!

As a neutral observer turkey will win
Does iran have any top tier bvr missiles?
I don't think Iranian missiles can cause much damage to turkey also what missile defense does turkey have ?

 

[TR_123456]

I don't think Iranian missiles can cause much damage to turkey also what missile defense does turkey have ?

Missile & Smart Munition Programs

ıs there any comparasion of succesful rates of missiles carries IIR and Radar seeker?

defencehub.live

Siper, a part of Turkey’s layered air defense as dubbed several times by defense industry officials, will have a two-stroke engine that enables maximum efficacy during vertical launch, along with active radar homing and infrared homing warheads. It is expected to enter the inventory in 2023. There are also the Hisar-A, Hisar-A+, Hisar-O and Hisar-O+ short and medium-range air defense systems. The Hisar-A+ is the upgraded version of the Hisar-A low-altitude air defense system, like the Hisar-O+, which is the upgraded version of Hisar-O.
S-400(not active yet).

 

[Kansei]

Cypriot is mad my grandfather killed some of your kind during 1974 cope more

Yeah we get it your forte is changing the topic to a different topic so you can avoid aknowledging ones comment. Do you too agree with the above statement: "Turks have treated all their subjects like human beings and tolerated their beliefs and traditions" ?

 

[Manomed]

Yeah we get it your forte is changing the topic to a different topic so you can avoid aknowledging ones comment. Do you too agree with the above statement: "Turks have treated all their subjects like human beings and tolerated their beliefs and traditions" ?

Non turks were in better place than turks also Turks did tolerated peoples traditions If we didn't no one in balkans were like this.

Turks did treated them like human beings till they started to act against us after that You can't wait tolerance from Us.

 

[Kansei]

Non turks were in better place than turks also Turks did tolerated peoples traditions If we didn't no one in balkans were like this.

Turks did treated them like human beings till they started to act against us after that You can't wait tolerance from Us.

LMAO NON TURKS WERE IN BETTER PLACE THAN TURKS ?
Yea they respected them if you don't count that they had to pay a tax if they weren't muslim,were second-class citizens, they kidnapped christian children from their mothers to convert them into muslims and " If a Christian spoke or acted out against the "Law of Mahomet", or consorted with a Turkish woman, or broke into a mosque, then he might face impalement unless he converted to Islam" , impalement being to die from a spear that is impilied through your ass and out your mouth.

 

[Huelague]

LMAO NON TURKS WERE IN BETTER PLACE THAN TURKS ?
Yea they respected them if you don't count that they had to pay a tax if they weren't muslim,were second-class citizens, they kidnapped christian children from their mothers to convert them into muslims and " If a Christian spoke or acted out against the "Law of Mahomet", or consorted with a Turkish woman, or broke into a mosque, then he might face impalement unless he converted to Islam" , impalement being to die from a spear that is impilied through your ass and out your mouth.

Should we talk about Christian crimes?