Live Conflict Israel-US vs Iran War (2026)

[Huelague]

LoL

They? The whole world now know what the weak point is, i hope our IRST is good what we can pick them up from at least 50km away.

What’s the plan, to scan the whole sky with IRST to find a fighter jet.

 

[Passenger]

NPR report, F-35 made a “hard landing” and won’t be returning to service anytime soon.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034972525222838351

Congratulation, Iranian got the first shoting down of F-35. They even not have an advanced SAM with AESA.

 

[Peter66]

NPR report, F-35 made a “hard landing” and won’t be returning to service anytime soon.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034972525222838351

Congratulation, Iranian got the first shoting down of F-35. They even not have an advanced SAM with AESA.

Is this a seco one ore still the first one?

 

[Passenger]

Is this a seco one ore still the first one?

The 3 models of the F35(A/B/C) have been recorded as crashing due to accidents, but there is no record of them being shot down before that, I think.
And there is a good new for Isreal, F35I is the last model which have not crashed(Or not recorded).

 

[AlperTunga]

Good point @Iskander !
But you have also to remember that those airfields on the ground have 10 times more layered and complex air defences than any city. To overcome those defences is not a simple task. To Shayrat, the US fired 59 Tomahawk missiles. According to Russian sources 23 hit their targets.
Including UK and French missiles, there were 103 missiles’s fired at Shayrat. Some never made it to shore. But in total 71 missiles were intercepted by Syrian air defences. Even a country like Syria could defend their airbase to a certain degree. US an Israeli air bases would be much better protected.

Among The Airbases you want to destroy lie the aircraft carriers. They are the floating air bases and are even harder to hit. As well as its own AD systems, it has 3 to 4 Arleigh Burke Class destroyers and Virginia Class nuclear subs to defend it. Short of a nuclear strike, it is a bloody hard job to destroy a carrier group.

Russia: Syria air defence intercepted 71 missiles

Reports say US Tomahawk missiles used to target Syria, as UK and France deploy Tornado, Mirage and Rafale jets.

www.aljazeera.com

They would be much better protected with what? Patriots, THAAD? Iron Dome components? David’ Sling, Arrow? I dont think the protection of air fields is much better than the Israeli cities. Maybe some additional layer of point defence but that wouldnt be effective against ballistic missiles anyhow. In any case, if they have 5 layers of defense we should have 6 layers of attack capabilities. Beginning with Super Simsek, Kargi, K2, Anka-3 with ER-300 and SOM, Tayfun-4, Gezgin etc. All with sufficient numbers. Then even the best protected carrier can be saturated (including all 11 carriers that belong to Israel).

 

[Yasar_TR]

They would be much better protected with what? Patriots, THAAD? Iron Dome components? David’ Sling, Arrow? I dont think the protection of air fields is much better than the Israeli cities. Maybe some additional layer of point defence but that wouldnt be effective against ballistic missiles anyhow. In any case, if they have 5 layers of defense we should have 6 layers of attack capabilities. Beginning with Super Simsek, Kargi, K2, Anka-3 with ER-300 and SOM, Tayfun-4, Gezgin etc. All with sufficient numbers. Then even the best protected carrier can be saturated (including all 11 carriers that belong to Israel).

It is not just with what, it is how concentrated and in abundance the defence systems would be too. Even Korkut like guns and CIWS would be effective on cruise missiles. Also point defence missiles potentially can add to the layered defences.

A city like tel Aviv has a metropolitan area of over 1500square km. A typical airbase would be between 10km2 to 20km2. (Incirlik air base is 13km2) .
Hence much easier to protect than a city, especially when you have concentrated weapon systems in hand. It is easier to saturate a city wide defence system.

A missile with an engagement parameter like ESSM, can theoretically shoot down a Brahmos or ER300 or Rampage class supersonic missiles. Anything more advanced will need Patriot, Sm3 or Arrow.

I find your enthusiasm refreshing, and fully agree with the main theme in your last sentence in ().
But saturating CSG (Carrier Strike Group) armaments will take some doing. A target constantly in motion at 30knots is not targetable with the kinds of ballistic missiles Iran has. You need sophisticated HGVs (Hypervelocity Glide Vehicles) for that.


EDIT

You have to plan your moves according to the birds in your hand not according to the birds in the bush.

Of those attack potentials only SOM is in our inventory. (Even that still not fully ready as SOM-C that is going to be used against moving sea targets is still being developed.)
Süper Simsek: not in quantity in the inventory.
Kargi : put on hold and still not in inventory.
K2 : in development stage
Anka3 : Not ready yet. Nor it’s indigenous engine.
ER300 : not in inventory yet
Tayfun 4 : initial testing to be done yet
Gezgin: we only know the name. Not itself.

 

[Oublious]

What’s the plan, to scan the whole sky with IRST to find a fighter jet.

Yes, passive sensor.

 

[500]

This is what I would do first. The more Persians escalates, the higher the chance of a victory. Bombing nuclear plants, Startups villages, IT companies, even the Wailing Wall. Which needs a very precision strike capability.

The problem is that Israel and US can take out all Iranian electric oil and water infrastructures in 1 day effectively returning it to stone age.

Iran with its low accuracy rockets can only terrorize civilians.

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

It is not just with what, it is how concentrated and in abundance the defence systems would be too. Even Korkut like guns and CIWS would be effective on cruise missiles. Also point defence missiles potentially can add to the layered defences.

A city like tel Aviv has a metropolitan area of over 1500square km. A typical airbase would be between 10km2 to 20km2. (Incirlik air base is 13km2) .
Hence much easier to protect than a city, especially when you have concentrated weapon systems in hand. It is easier to saturate a city wide defence system.

A missile with an engagement parameter like ESSM, can theoretically shoot down a Brahmos or ER300 or Rampage class supersonic missiles. Anything more advanced will need Patriot, Sm3 or Arrow.

I find your enthusiasm refreshing, and fully agree with the main theme in your last sentence in ().
But saturating CSG (Carrier Strike Group) armaments will take some doing. A target constantly in motion at 30knots is not targetable with the kinds of ballistic missiles Iran has. You need sophisticated HGVs (Hypervelocity Glide Vehicles) for that.


EDIT

You have to plan your moves according to the birds in your hand not according to the birds in the bush.

Of those attack potentials only SOM is in our inventory. (Even that still not fully ready as SOM-C that is going to be used against moving sea targets is still being developed.)
Süper Simsek: not in quantity in the inventory.
Kargi : put on hold and still not in inventory.
K2 : in development stage
Anka3 : Not ready yet. Nor it’s indigenous engine.
ER300 : not in inventory yet
Tayfun 4 : initial testing to be done yet
Gezgin: we only know the name. Not itself.

Do not forget the Barbaros coastal Defence System, it was succesfully tested in 2022 and in 2024 Cakir AShM was integrated and it is still not in Service !

 

[Barry]

Dude, your country is getting bombed to bits and you decide it's a good time to execute your own 19 year old champion athlete

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/world/middleeast/iran-executed-wrestler-mohammadi-hanging-protests.html

Didn't he murder a policeman?

 

[AlperTunga]

It is not just with what, it is how concentrated and in abundance the defence systems would be too. Even Korkut like guns and CIWS would be effective on cruise missiles. Also point defence missiles potentially can add to the layered defences.

A city like tel Aviv has a metropolitan area of over 1500square km. A typical airbase would be between 10km2 to 20km2. (Incirlik air base is 13km2) .
Hence much easier to protect than a city, especially when you have concentrated weapon systems in hand. It is easier to saturate a city wide defence system.

A missile with an engagement parameter like ESSM, can theoretically shoot down a Brahmos or ER300 or Rampage class supersonic missiles. Anything more advanced will need Patriot, Sm3 or Arrow.

I find your enthusiasm refreshing, and fully agree with the main theme in your last sentence in ().
But saturating CSG (Carrier Strike Group) armaments will take some doing. A target constantly in motion at 30knots is not targetable with the kinds of ballistic missiles Iran has. You need sophisticated HGVs (Hypervelocity Glide Vehicles) for that.


EDIT

You have to plan your moves according to the birds in your hand not according to the birds in the bush.

Of those attack potentials only SOM is in our inventory. (Even that still not fully ready as SOM-C that is going to be used against moving sea targets is still being developed.)
Süper Simsek: not in quantity in the inventory.
Kargi : put on hold and still not in inventory.
K2 : in development stage
Anka3 : Not ready yet. Nor it’s indigenous engine.
ER300 : not in inventory yet
Tayfun 4 : initial testing to be done yet
Gezgin: we only know the name. Not itself.

Your EDIT part tells a sad story unfortunately. But in my "scenario" I am already allowing a few years before NATO will effectively dissolve, or Israel is able to convince Trump or the next american president. If we use this time with utmost effectiveness, we may have a chance even against the ACs. We don't need HGV for that. We can send 50 Anka-3 each with 6 Super Simsek to saturate the AD of the carrier group, followed with other waves of drones with stand-off missiles, then it may work out fine for us. Of course we should modernize 200 F16s with MURAD AESA radar and Gökdogan+ or Gökbora missiles. And complement this with armed Hürjets and KEs. But if you ask me whether this "scenario" is realistic, unfortunately not. Because there is a difference between having some prototypes vs producing these weapon systems in sufficient numbers and employing them as part of a coherent war tactic/strategy. And in this aspect, we are notoriously bad.

Also, what Israel may try to do is to attack us very soon together with Greece, hoping that US would still have to run to their help, once Israel starts the war. Attacking Türkiye would not send the oil prices to the roof, so ordinary americans would not necessarily object it. And NATO is not valued that much by them anyhow. So this is a real danger, which many "experts" on TV shows appear not to take into account properly. I am not even sure the real "experts" also take it into account, given the ungrounded boasting I hear from many retired army personal (except maybe Erdogan Karakus).

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

Your EDIT part tells a sad story unfortunately. But in my "scenario" I am already allowing a few years before NATO will effectively dissolve, or Israel is able to convince Trump or the next american president. If we use this time with utmost effectiveness, we may have a chance even against the ACs. We don't need HGV for that. We can send 50 Anka-3 each with 6 Super Simsek to saturate the AD of the carrier group, followed with other waves of drones with stand-off missiles, then it may work out fine for us. Of course we should modernize 200 F16s with MURAD AESA radar and Gökdogan+ or Gökbora missiles. And complement this with armed Hürjets and KEs. But if you ask me whether this "scenario" is realistic, unfortunately not. Because there is a difference between having some prototypes vs producing these weapon systems in sufficient numbers and employing them as part of a coherent war tactic/strategy. And in this aspect, we are notoriously bad.

Also, what Israel may try to do is to attack us very soon together with Greece, hoping that US would still have to run to their help, once Israel starts the war. Attacking Türkiye would not send the oil prices to the roof, so ordinary americans would not necessarily object it. And NATO is not valued that much by them anyhow. So this is a real danger, which many "experts" on TV shows appear not to take into account properly. I am not even sure the real "experts" also take it into account, given the ungrounded boasting I hear from many retired army personal (except maybe Erdogan Karakus).

@AlperTunga

In this Thread the Topic of a hypothetical turkish Strike on a CSG fit better. We can continue talking here: https://defencehub.live/threads/tur...astern-mediterranean.18577/page-8#post-387009

 

[Huelague]

Iran with its low accuracy rockets can only terrorize civilians.

Where is the difference what you do right now?

 

[GoatsMilk]

I think ultimately what's important is to make sure you have enough air defence systems that the enemy cannot enter and leave your airspace freely. Even when were watching the US/Isreal do this in Iran and yet Iran is still able to hit back with what is comparatively a limited capacity of missiles and cheap drones.

But like i said before with each day that passes, with each day that trump claims victory the more and more this war is looking like America's Ukraine moment.

From a zionist perspective however this is what they wanted, to use american might to harm their enemy. To use the idoit western goy as their rabbis call it, to serve the isrealis murderous regional agenda. However, the big downside to all of this if they fail to topple iran not only will they go nuclear but they will further develop their ballistic and drone capabilities. If Iran goes nuclear pretty soon after Turkiye and a few Arab states will go nuclear too. The only real thing stopping iran developing nuclear weapons was the threat of war. Well the zionists crossed that bridge and went about exterminating their leadership, no doubts now the iranians will 100% go nuclear. From a Turkish perspective, its now impossible for Turkiye to not go nuclear either.

Who would have thought that potentially in the same decade that the "two self-declared global super powers" would engage in wars that would expose both them to not be anywhere near the calibre of what they believed themselves to be.

Chinese will be sitting their thinking how shit Russia is taking on Ukraine, while laughing at the idea that a nation with not even 5% of the military capacity that China has can cause so much trouble to the USA.

 

[GoatsMilk]

seems like another american base is on fire.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2035114494771233058

i remember not so long ago when an american general was saying that Turkish military assets would become legitimate targets should the Turkish army strike the extreme left wing marxist terrorist organisation.

Its worth keeping in mind that incirlik airbase was being used by the americans to supply the PKK with weapons to use against Turkiye.

 

[Spitfire9]

MSN

They are not finished militarily. Every day they launch missiles and drones against their neighbours. The US cannot, from a distance, put an end to aggressive military action by Iran.

3 weeks into the US/Israeli attacks, what have the aggressors achieved?

1 Widespread damage to Iran, its air force and navy
2 ???
3 ???...

 

[Passenger]

The US will temporarily lift sanctions on Iranian oil for 30 days amid the US-Israel war, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says, applying only to oil already in transit and not to new orders as global supply shocks continue.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2035140029522018434

 

[Asena_great]

Caspian report on the conflict

iran's 3 thrashhold of pain is

1) munitions which is running low
2) midterm elections which is getting closer
3) global economy which is tanking and disrupting supply chain all the way to munition productions. this also effecting US relationship with european and gulf and east asian allies such as japan and south Korea

iran's objective is to survive

meanwhile israel-US objective is to overthrow the regime for this they need

1) capturing the water way's coast line first to open the water way which they have no plan to do so
2) take the capital which they have no plan to do so
3) prevent now under attacked iran to rush to make the nuclear bomb which they are not able to do so and have no plan to stope them


instead all above all i see from US-Israel side is we blow up 70 years old f4 fighters or we blow up their joke of navy which btw the real threat is their speed boats and under water drones not their frigates time is on Iranian side and they are ,now under attacked, rushing for bomb ironically israel caused them to have nukes which is bad for all of us israel also single handily ending rule based global order as well as ending western alliance

US-Israel are losing this war. none of this would have happened if they accept omani deal which state zero enrichment for 5 years and only enrichment of uranium for 1.5% for their medical needs (in needed in production of cancer medicent) and no stockpiling which means they give u all of those 60% enriched materials as well as the fuel will come from outside for their nuclear power plant and would be used immediately + 24/7 live surveillance via cameras and monthly inspection by international atopic agency


that deal was fantastic for nuclear bomb you need high quality (90%+ enriched materials) and enough quantity of this materials which the deal took away both of them. more time passes the more i start believing that Trump and Netanyahu attacked because of their domestics issues thinking iran will fall in 4 days and boost their popularities now both of them are stuck

 

[500]

Where is the difference what you do right now?

Israel is attacking solely military targets + couple times were attacked oil storage and gas. Iran is deliberately targeting civilians.

Overall Israel dropped around 10,000 bombs on Iran. If we attacked civilians there would be over 100,000 civilian deaths in Iran by now.

 

[Passenger]

A residential house has been struck in a US-Israeli attack on Iran’s coastal city of Ramsar, killing a couple and their child, according to the report.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2035299546935509277