Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

[Fuzuli NL]

5 PKK/YPG rats zapped in Gara and Claw-Lock areas in N. Iraq. 10 in Euphrates Shield and Peace Spring Areas in Syria

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814276793454542938

 

[Ryder]

This should be extended to all Islamist entities, no matter where they are, they destroy what they claim to protect.

In fact Mossad supported Islamists within the Palestinian resistance because they knew it would weaken them.


It's a very simple cycle. Back cancerous Islamists > be anti Islamic > Islamists lash out and attack you > retaliate and defeat Islamists > rinse and repeat, effortless after first cycle.

Secularism is the only cure, something that the whole Muslim world needs to learn.

Muslim World tried all of that Islamism, Communism, Pan-whatever it is and Secularism.

It all ended up in utter failure.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814683556385308902

Turkistan Islamic Party (Uyghur Turks) is hitting the Assad regime in Syria with MKE-made 155 mm artillery shells and 120 caliber mortars.

 

[Kartal1]

Yesterday was a very tense day as HRE/PKK pulled off a serious infiltration in the area of Marea. There was a serious escalation on all fronts with HRE/PKK and the YPG (Manbij) on the west of Euphrates.

The last infiltration on the Marea area resulted in multiple casualties from the SNA and it was rumored that the terrorists managed to overwhelm a couple of outposts on the Harbel line. After the decisive intervention of the SNA and after TSK provided support the situation calmed down. Even the leader of the Mutasim Division came to the area in order to command his fighters. It was reported that TuAF fighter jets were flying over the area. Prior to this infiltration it was reported that Ahrar Awlan (HTS supported) clashed with Hamza Division in Kandarliyah.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814438471660122124

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814439494830924066

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814442729591451735

We talked about the fact that the two points that can escalate the situation a lot are Tal Rifat and Tal Tamr. Well, after the escalation at Tal Rifat was pumped it was reported that YPG-Regime forces started inspections at the Tal Tamr line. Looks like we are moving towards a serious escalation. Whenever Tal Rifat and Tal Tamr get out of control we start to talk about operations. Lets see what will happen this time...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814648831843213318

 

[Kartal1]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814683556385308902

Turkistan Islamic Party (Uyghur Turks) is hitting the Assad regime in Syria with MKE-made 155 mm artillery shells and 120 caliber mortars.

This is not something we should be proud of tho...

Instead of our Turkmen brothers Hawarij fighters like these are getting the good stuff somehow and if we look at the latest attacks from Latakia we can also see who is running the show there. This is not how support to the Turkmen is done. This is how Al-Qaeda 2.0 is being formed under Joulani.

 

[Sanchez]

ACVs to HTS and now M114s to TIP.

 

[Bogeyman]

This is not something we should be proud of tho...

Instead of our Turkmen brothers Hawarij fighters like these are getting the good stuff somehow and if we look at the latest attacks from Latakia we can also see who is running the show there. This is not how support to the Turkmen is done. This is how Al-Qaeda 2.0 is being formed under Joulani.

So what, are we going to label East Turkestan Turks as terrorists now? Then you will explain to Uyghur Turks how Turkey is a safe haven for them. "If you become an Islamist, we will label you as a terrorist." I think this is starting to get to a very funny point.

 

[Bogeyman]

So what, are we going to label East Turkestan Turks as terrorists now? Then you will explain to Uyghur Turks how Turkey is a safe haven for them. "If you become an Islamist, we will label you as a terrorist." I think this is starting to get to a very funny point.

My only line here is, are they pointing their weapons at Turkish soldiers? If they are not, you cannot declare someone a terrorist because they are "Islamist". That is Syria and you cannot choose your "allies" there as you wish.

If you trust him enough to give him a gun, you don't think he'll have a problem with you.

The remaining ideological issues are swept under the carpet on the battlefield.

 

[Sanchez]

So what, are we going to label East Turkestan Turks as terrorists now?

TIP is designated as a terror group by Turkey. It's complicated.

 

[Bogeyman]

TIP is designated as a terror group by Turkey. It's complicated.

Then Turkey needs to make a decision when giving them weapons.
Did the artillery shells fall into the hands of TİP through MİT or through handovers tolerated in the field?

Or is this ambiguity being deliberately continued on the ground? If so, I don't see anything to be concerned about here. As long as they don't target us, there is no problem.

 

[Kartal1]

So what, are we going to label East Turkestan Turks as terrorists now? Then you will explain to Uyghur Turks how Turkey is a safe haven for them. "If you become an Islamist, we will label you as a terrorist." I think this is starting to get to a very funny point.

Do you know what kind of organization you are talking about? I am not sure if you are aware of the problem here.

As we are not going to label Kurds as terrorist because there are terrorist organizations like the PKK, we are not going to label Uyghurs for such, but people tightly connected to the Al-Qaeda if not terrorists what are they in your book? Are we going to label Al-Qaeda and IS as freedom fighters next? Because many of the fighters that started their career in ETIM/TIP ended up joining IS and Al-Qaeda in Syria and Iraq for the only reason that they have the better chance of achieving a Global Caliphate.

I can assure you these pictures or deliveries are not recent deliveries. If they somehow managed to get something from recent supplies we can talk about a smuggling operation that is aiming to sell weapons and equipment supplied to the SNA to other actors, just as thermal sights supplied with the money of the Turkish citizens were then resold to the PKK/YPG by the same kind of criminal network within the SNA. These are old deliveries that were evenly distributed in Idlib by the same guys that managed to screw up together with the children of the Muslim Brotherhood the whole Turkmen initiative in the north of Syria for the sake of Ihwan projects like Ahrar Al-Sham and this managed nothing else than to bring us the label of "terrorist supporters" while the real people that supported them (including the Coalition) were whitewashed.

Recently Turkiye raided an Ahrar Awlan (Ahrar Al-Sham Eastern Sector) HQ in our controlled areas and it uncovered weapons and explosives waiting ready to be used against us in a plan to incite a rebellion and make a pretext for HTS to invade our areas. These groups (HTS supported) were the ones that initiated the process which led to terrorists open fire against TSK forces, burn Turkish flags, put danger to the security of Turkish citizens and Turkish owned business in the area. We were on the brink of catastrophe and not many people realized how close we were to the end of our adventure in Syria, all because of these groups and our soft touch.

TIP is currently taking place in the Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham (HTS) organization, the old Al-Nusra. An organization that managed to gather Khawarij fighters from all over the world including Uzbeks and Uyghurs. I am too lazy to show you some videos of these fighters and their "pretty" tongue towards Turkiye and the Turkish supported SNA.

Do you know that TIP connected people if their connection is proven are denied Turkish citizenship due to them being a threat to the national security of Turkiye? Do you know that the ancestor of TIP, the ETIM was killed in a Pakistani raid on Al-Qaeda cell in 2003?

I will also say more than that. Al-Nusra (old), HTS and TIP/ETIM are all organizations officially recognized by Turkiye as terrorist organizations. The organization called TIP/ETIM also took part in planning of terrorist attacks against US diplomatic facilities even tho they were taken out of the US terror list later due to political reasons. So how should we label them?

My only line here is, are they pointing their weapons at Turkish soldiers? If they are not, you cannot declare someone a terrorist because they are "Islamist". That is Syria and you cannot choose your "allies" there as you wish.

If you trust him enough to give him a gun, you don't think he'll have a problem with you.

The remaining ideological issues are swept under the carpet on the battlefield.

The problem is not that they are Islamists. The fighters we support (SNA) are also Islamists. No offense, but I think you have a problem with distinguishing moderate Islamism with the "Islamic" extremism we are talking about in this case.

These groups have nothing to do with the Syrian Revolution per the objectives it got when it was started by the oppressed Syrian people. These are called Khawarij and most of them in Syria are foreign fighters. When we talk about Khawarij in the majority of cases we talk about fat Gulf businessman posing as sheikhs sending money and resources to young, talented and ambitious jihadists to reign terror in countries that have nothing to do with these countries actually. This network of which TIP is also part of is called the Global Jihad network that the Gulf businessmen often like to use against whoever they don't like.

What are fighters of Uyghur ethnicity doing in Syria in the first place while they were better positioned for actions against China in Afghanistan and Pakistan one can ask. They are doing the same think what other Central Asians (Turkic Republics), Chechens, Russians and whatever other nationalities of scum including unfortunately Turks (the terrorist that burned our two soldiers alive on a video was a Turk) are doing. They are there within the Global Jihad initiative. These people are not only poisoning the noble cause of the Syrian Revolution with their extremism, but also pose a threat to Turkiye and it will be proved in future like it was proved in the past.

The Turkish pacifism towards these kinds of organizations is the cause Number 1 for the painful state we are in, right now in Syria. We first turned a blind eye to Al-Qaeda, then turned a blind eye to IS, turned a blind eye to YPG and here we are today. The biggest curse on Syria are the foreign fighters and as long as there are foreign fighters on the ground we will not see peace. MIT and all other relevant services saw it and are now on the search for a solution especially after we had to fight meters away from HTS terrorists during Operation Spring Shield while they were calling our soldiers as "Kafir", "Chicken", showed hand signs threatening them with beheading and were ridiculing them.

My friendly advice to you is to take this issue more seriously. Organizations like these are serving only one master and it is not Turkiye or the Turkish people no matter how you call them or whatever ethnicity they are from. The start of the Arab Spring and the role we played in the beginning is a black stain on our record. It is so black that we can't clean it from our white suit for 10 years now and the situation is getting worse and worse especially in Syria, our backyard. We should stay away from their kind. This type of Jihadism is a cancer.

 

[Bogeyman]

Do you know what kind of organization you are talking about? I am not sure if you are aware of the problem here.

As we are not going to label Kurds as terrorist because there are terrorist organizations like the PKK, we are not going to label Uyghurs for such, but people tightly connected to the Al-Qaeda if not terrorists what are they in your book? Are we going to label Al-Qaeda and IS as freedom fighters next? Because many of the fighters that started their career in ETIM/TIP ended up joining IS and Al-Qaeda in Syria and Iraq for the only reason that they have the better chance of achieving a Global Caliphate.

I can assure you these pictures or deliveries are not recent deliveries. If they somehow managed to get something from recent supplies we can talk about a smuggling operation that is aiming to sell weapons and equipment supplied to the SNA to other actors, just as thermal sights supplied with the money of the Turkish citizens were then resold to the PKK/YPG by the same kind of criminal network within the SNA. These are old deliveries that were evenly distributed in Idlib by the same guys that managed to screw up together with the children of the Muslim Brotherhood the whole Turkmen initiative in the north of Syria for the sake of Ihwan projects like Ahrar Al-Sham and this managed nothing else than to bring us the label of "terrorist supporters" while the real people that supported them (including the Coalition) were whitewashed.

Recently Turkiye raided an Ahrar Awlan (Ahrar Al-Sham Eastern Sector) HQ in our controlled areas and it uncovered weapons and explosives waiting ready to be used against us in a plan to incite a rebellion and make a pretext for HTS to invade our areas. These groups (HTS supported) were the ones that initiated the process which led to terrorists open fire against TSK forces, burn Turkish flags, put danger to the security of Turkish citizens and Turkish owned business in the area. We were on the brink of catastrophe and not many people realized how close we were to the end of our adventure in Syria, all because of these groups and our soft touch.

TIP is currently taking place in the Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham (HTS) organization, the old Al-Nusra. An organization that managed to gather Khawarij fighters from all over the world including Uzbeks and Uyghurs. I am too lazy to show you some videos of these fighters and their "pretty" tongue towards Turkiye and the Turkish supported SNA.

Do you know that TIP connected people if their connection is proven are denied Turkish citizenship due to them being a threat to the national security of Turkiye? Do you know that the ancestor of TIP, the ETIM was killed in a Pakistani raid on Al-Qaeda cell in 2003?

I will also say more than that. Al-Nusra (old), HTS and TIP/ETIM are all organizations officially recognized by Turkiye as terrorist organizations. The organization called TIP/ETIM also took part in planning of terrorist attacks against US diplomatic facilities even tho they were taken out of the US terror list later due to political reasons. So how should we label them?

The problem is not that they are Islamists. The fighters we support (SNA) are also Islamists. No offense, but I think you have a problem with distinguishing moderate Islamism with the "Islamic" extremism we are talking about in this case.

These groups have nothing to do with the Syrian Revolution per the objectives it got when it was started by the oppressed Syrian people. These are called Khawarij and most of them in Syria are foreign fighters. When we talk about Khawarij in the majority of cases we talk about fat Gulf businessman posing as sheikhs sending money and resources to young, talented and ambitious jihadists to reign terror in countries that have nothing to do with these countries actually. This network of which TIP is also part of is called the Global Jihad network that the Gulf businessmen often like to use against whoever they don't like.

What are fighters of Uyghur ethnicity doing in Syria in the first place while they were better positioned for actions against China in Afghanistan and Pakistan one can ask. They are doing the same think what other Central Asians (Turkic Republics), Chechens, Russians and whatever other nationalities of scum including unfortunately Turks (the terrorist that burned our two soldiers alive on a video was a Turk) are doing. They are there within the Global Jihad initiative. These people are not only poisoning the noble cause of the Syrian Revolution with their extremism, but also pose a threat to Turkiye and it will be proved in future like it was proved in the past.

The Turkish pacifism towards these kinds of organizations is the cause Number 1 for the painful state we are in, right now in Syria. We first turned a blind eye to Al-Qaeda, then turned a blind eye to IS, turned a blind eye to YPG and here we are today. The biggest curse on Syria are the foreign fighters and as long as there are foreign fighters on the ground we will not see peace. MIT and all other relevant services saw it and are now on the search for a solution especially after we had to fight meters away from HTS terrorists during Operation Spring Shield while they were calling our soldiers as "Kafir", "Chicken", showed hand signs threatening them with beheading and were ridiculing them.

My friendly advice to you is to take this issue more seriously. Organizations like these are serving only one master and it is not Turkiye or the Turkish people no matter how you call them or whatever ethnicity they are from. The start of the Arab Spring and the role we played in the beginning is a black stain on our record. It is so black that we can't clean it from our white suit for 10 years now and the situation is getting worse and worse especially in Syria, our backyard. We should stay away from their kind. This type of Jihadism is a cancer.

I think I'll have to wait a little longer to write a serious response to what you wrote. But that's okay. I've waited 14 years. We've almost reached the end of the road. I'll postpone my response for now. But don't worry, I'll write a very clear response when the time comes.

 

[Kartal1]

In response to the HRE/PKK provocations, yesterday the SNA conducted an infiltration at the Arab Hasan village in the Manbij countryside. It is reported that many terrorists were killed and wounded. Clashes also took place in Regime controlled Tadef just next to Al-Bab.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814911686710600143

Yesterday night we reported about an HRE/PKK infiltration attempt at Harbel. Looks like it was a diversion operation and the real strike happened at Kaljibrin. Both SNA and the terrorists have casualties.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814959896485605633

Local sources: New party YPG/HRE/PKK terrorists and military reinforcements arrived in Tal Rifat, passing through the Syrian Regime regions.

Reinforcements include pickup vehicles with heavy machine guns and rocket launchers, as well as a number of armored vehicles, mortars, snipers and ATGMs.

PKK/YPG terrorists, in coordination with Syrian regime forces and Iran-backed militias, placed rockets and mortar launchers among civilian houses in villages and towns close to the line of contact with the SNA, starting from the front line in Tel Rifat countryside, all the way to the front line in Manbij countryside.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814981972613042484

Sources close to the Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed Russia's dissatisfaction with the Syrian Regime, as Moscow's attempt to get closer to Turkiye did not receive a sufficiently positive reaction from the Regime.

Sources speaking to the Syria TV website said that Russia believes Iran blocked the initiative because Tehran was not involved in the Moscow-sponsored mediation, but at the same time, Russia avoided conflict with Iran due to their close alliance.

The regime informed the Russian side that it would not accept the trade exchange process between Ankara and Moscow unless a timetable showing how long it would take for Turkish forces to withdraw from Syrian territory was obtained. Approving the opening of the crossings on the lines of contact acknowledges the legitimacy of the presence of Turkish forces and fears that the Syrian borders and former official border crossings will later change and stay within their current state (occupation).

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814958156612596198

 

[Ryder]

What a shitshow.

The Balkans, Middle East and the Caucasus the best examples.

Turkiye's geographical position is a blessing and a curse.

 

[Tonyukuk]

I think I'll have to wait a little longer to write a serious response to what you wrote. But that's okay. I've waited 14 years. We've almost reached the end of the road. I'll postpone my response for now. But don't worry, I'll write a very clear response when the time comes.

Without derailing this thread, I want to ask something...

If I remember correctly, you're very anti-Assad (and also a staunch supporter of Erdoğan). What are your thoughts on Erdoğan trying to make peace with Assad now?

 

[Bogeyman]

Without derailing this thread, I want to ask something...

If I remember correctly, you're very anti-Assad (and also a staunch supporter of Erdoğan). What are your thoughts on Erdoğan trying to make peace with Assad now?

I think this is a plan with no future. In the post above and before, it was repeatedly emphasized that it is impossible for these initiatives to make serious progress. While the Assad regime wants Turkish soldiers to withdraw from Syria, it is cooperating with the PKK against Turkey. You will never see the regime enter a serious conflict process with the PKK. Therefore, I think you are just hoping for nothing.

Turkey will not withdraw an inch from Syria until the purposes of the operations it started with Euphrates Shield and ended with Spring Shield (migration and the PKK state) are eliminated.

Whoever dreams of this is doing a disservice to themselves.

 

[godel44]

In response to the HRE/PKK provocations, yesterday the SNA conducted an infiltration at the Arab Hasan village in the Manbij countryside. It is reported that many terrorists were killed and wounded. Clashes also took place in Regime controlled Tadef just next to Al-Bab.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814911686710600143

Yesterday night we reported about an HRE/PKK infiltration attempt at Harbel. Looks like it was a diversion operation and the real strike happened at Kaljibrin. Both SNA and the terrorists have casualties.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814959896485605633

Local sources: New party YPG/HRE/PKK terrorists and military reinforcements arrived in Tal Rifat, passing through the Syrian Regime regions.

Reinforcements include pickup vehicles with heavy machine guns and rocket launchers, as well as a number of armored vehicles, mortars, snipers and ATGMs.

PKK/YPG terrorists, in coordination with Syrian regime forces and Iran-backed militias, placed rockets and mortar launchers among civilian houses in villages and towns close to the line of contact with the SNA, starting from the front line in Tel Rifat countryside, all the way to the front line in Manbij countryside.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814981972613042484

Sources close to the Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed Russia's dissatisfaction with the Syrian Regime, as Moscow's attempt to get closer to Turkiye did not receive a sufficiently positive reaction from the Regime.

Sources speaking to the Syria TV website said that Russia believes Iran blocked the initiative because Tehran was not involved in the Moscow-sponsored mediation, but at the same time, Russia avoided conflict with Iran due to their close alliance.

The regime informed the Russian side that it would not accept the trade exchange process between Ankara and Moscow unless a timetable showing how long it would take for Turkish forces to withdraw from Syrian territory was obtained. Approving the opening of the crossings on the lines of contact acknowledges the legitimacy of the presence of Turkish forces and fears that the Syrian borders and former official border crossings will later change and stay within their current state (occupation).

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1814958156612596198

Not to sound crude, but why don't we just bomb the regime and Iran-backed militia until they agree? Especially when they assist the PKK and Russians and Americans are not around. It would also be a service to humanity.