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Ahlatcı Makes a First in Turkey: A $2.3 Billion Strategic Investment in Çorum!

Ahlatcı Holding is preparing to undertake another major project that will leave its mark on the history of the Turkish defense industry. Ahmet Ahlatcı, Chairman of the Holding's Board of Directors, announced the establishment of a $2.3 billion missile and rocket fuel production facility in Çorum. This facility, a first in Turkey, is expected to make significant contributions to the country's defense with both its technological infrastructure and production capacity.

Domestic Defense Production to Rise in Çorum

Ahlatcı stated that the new facility will create employment for approximately 2,000 people, highlighting the scale and impact of the investment. He noted that efforts are underway to bring the facility to the 2nd Organized Industrial Zone on the Samsun road, saying, "I love my hometown. If deemed appropriate, we want to bring this strategic investment to Çorum."

Offers Rain Down, Hometown Is the Choice Again

Despite receiving offers from across Turkey, Ahlatcı Holding has once again chosen its hometown, Çorum. Recalling that they previously wanted to bring the Gunpowder Factory to Çorum, but due to a lack of suitable land allocation, they built it in Sungurlu, Ahlatcı stated, "Our goal is to make a strategic investment in Çorum."

Contributing to Both the Economy and National Security

If the investment is realized, Çorum's industry and employment potential will be significantly strengthened. The facility will also contribute significantly to the vision of domestic and national production in the defense industry, reducing Turkey's dependence on foreign sources in this area.

This visionary step by Ahmet Ahlatcı is poised to elevate not only Çorum's, but also Turkey's, strength and strategic capabilities in the defense industry.
Excellent development.

Ahlatçı is deserving credit because they (mostly) transformed Çorum a place from migrate to a place to migrate. There is already organized defense Industry in Çorum (in Ankara road). Their mechanics (ustaları) are famous for their expertise and very good their jobs after all. Note a joke, I mean it. The most negative side of it that lacks airport. Close to Merzifon Airport though (about 45 kms), but it may affect talent attraction from other places nonetheless

If this happens, in terms of serial production, private sector could be much more efficient and effective than public companies in my opinion. They are neither slow, nor sloppy because every second they lose money without production.

We need more from private companies, risk takers and investors like that must be supported. They help decentralization of arms manufacturing, creating high skilled jobs and economy in provincial places while fulfiling demands of the country.
 

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We might see Akbaba on Idef this year. Some sources ,including gdh, are making news about Akbaba. 5 days left to the fair 🎉
 

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Because Gökhan is from Tubitak Sage
SOM used to be from SAGE as well. It changed a bit now after 2022 but SAGE is still mainly an R&D facility, not a manufacturing one.

BVR long range missile with folding fins? Has to be for Kaan.
 

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BVR long range missile with folding fins? Has to be for Kaan.
And has to be a ramjet 💪
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Yes i know, but did Roketsan exhibit Tubitak products in the past? For example afaik Gökdogan/Bozdogan was only seen at Tubitak Sage stand.
Again, SOM. Should be interesting to see what they've come up with.

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ROKETSAN General Manager Murat Ikinci: IDEF 2025 Defense Industry Fair

We will show ballistic, cruise, air defense and air-to-air missiles.
 
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Then where is Akbaba? According to 2023 annual report of Tubitak, its antenna layout is ready. Does solid fuel Ramjet take longer than gel based fuel Ramjet?
If you mean to develop; logically yes. Once you have mastered the ramjet propulsion, usually through liquid fuel systems, then you may tackle the problem of adapting it to solid fuel.
Solid fuelled missile systems are like glorified and fine tuned firework missiles. When you add to this a throttle ability too it becomes a very sensitive and intricate technology to develop.
With liquid fuelled ramjet, you have a fuel tank and fuel injection system to regulate the amount of fuel being burnt. Yet with solid fuel it is much harder to control fuel burn. For this reason, the fuel in Meteor is stuck to the inner periphery of the combustion chamber and can only be burnt when it is peeled off in layers in an ablative manner by special airjets. By adjusting the amount being peeled off the speed of the missile is regulated.

Meteor is a 3.7m long , 178mm diameter 190kg missile. Can be carried inside F35 and presumably KAAN too.
Gökhan needs separate fuel tank and is approximately 5m long, 200mm diameter, 300-400kg missile. How they are going to fit it in to KAAN’s weapon bays is a mystery.
 

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Meteor is a 3.7m long , 178mm diameter 190kg missile. Can be carried inside F35 and presumably KAAN too.
Gökhan needs separate fuel tank and is approximately 5m long, 200mm diameter, 300-400kg missile. How they are going to fit it in to KAAN’s weapon bays is a mystery.

Can Gökhan be as agile as Meteor with such size and weight? And how would these numbers affect NEZ?
 

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@TheInsider

Again, i don't write this to look like a smart as* and please don't get me wrong. But if you guys write it is "equivalent", then don't you think that someone, who is not familiar with the subject, will look up GLSDB and think like "Göktan will have same range, dimensions and capabilities"? Wouldn't it be more correct to write "same concept"?
Afaik according to the small amount of information we have about Göktan, it should be far better than GLSDB.
You're not being a smart ass mate, mainly because "equivalent" doesn't just mean exactly the same, it also means used in the same way, or has the same use or effect. You want me to link a few dictionaries? So, in this case, or any other cases that compare two military systems that does the same thing, the word "equivalent" is correct.
 
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