TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Strong AI]

Wow

The test footage of GAZAP, the conventional aircraft bomb with the highest destructive power ever produced by Türkiye, has been revealed.

The thermobaric bomb GAZAP can penetrate an area of hundreds of square meters.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1949098502417445331

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Wow

The test footage of GAZAP, the conventional aircraft bomb with the highest destructive power ever produced by Türkiye, has been revealed.

The thermobaric bomb GAZAP can penetrate an area of hundreds of square meters.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1949098502417445331

Cool, now use a couple hundred in northern syria

 

[MonteCarlo]

Now seeing this, do any of our cruise/ballistic missiles have an airbust warhead version? Cluster ATAMCS were doing work in Russia

 

[Strong AI]

Now seeing this, do any of our cruise/ballistic missile have airbust warhead versions? Cluster ATAMCS were doing work in Russia

Besides, Cenk will have many options like cluster warhead and frag warhead. If you trigger it above the targeted area impact radius can reach 500 meters, which is not far-fetched.

 

[Bogeyman]

Murat İkinci, noting that the TAYFUN project is currently underway with mass production and deliveries underway, said, "The BLOK-4 missile is currently one of the heaviest, largest, and fastest missiles developed by Roketsan. This is one of the most advanced examples of ballistic missile technology, demonstrating the current state of the Turkish defense industry in line with the developments taking place around us. The TAYFUN BLOK-4 is a missile that will strengthen the Turkish Armed Forces due to its hypersonic and long-range capabilities, as well as its warhead."

Murat İkinci, noting that the missile they developed incorporates ballistic missile technology and pinpoint-hit missile technologies, said, "The TAYFUN BLOK-4 development phase is nearing completion, and test launches are hopefully beginning. The TAYFUN family is a large one and will expand even further. The TAYFUN blocks and features will expand as a family, depending on the variety of warheads and the missions to be performed."

Murat İkinci explained that R&D studies are ongoing, saying, "When these R&D studies reach a certain level of maturity, we will share them, as we did with the Tayfun BLOK-4. Some may be abandoned before reaching a certain level of maturity. However, the TAYFUN family will continue to seriously enhance its features and capabilities by adding new ones. One of the TAYFUN's key features, in addition to being hypersonic, is its onboard sensors. These sensors incorporate numerous technologies that allow it to effectively engage its target and protect itself from battlefield impacts. From this perspective, we can say that the TAYFUN BLOK-4 is actually one of the most advanced examples of the TAYFUN family. Are there more? Yes, there are. There are other blocks in the works. When these reach a certain level of maturity, we will share them with our people, God willing."


Murat İkinci, explaining that the GÖKBORA missile unveiled at the fair is a member of the solid-fuel ramjet family, said, "A solid-fuel ramjet is a missile developed for the first time in Türkiye. As you know, TÜBİTAK SAGE's GÖKHAN missile features liquid-fuel ramjet technology. We are also working very closely with TÜBİTAK SAGE. That missile and our GÖKBORA missile can essentially be launched from within the KIZILELMA and KAAN platforms, that is, from their internal weapon stations. This will enable it to engage air targets without compromising their stealth capabilities."

Murat İkinci, noting that the missile is a ramjet and a very long-range missile with a beyond-visual-range capability, said, "This missile, with its capabilities, can actually navigate its target using data collected not only from onboard sensors but also from other sensors. It incorporates numerous technologies. This will be one of the features we are maximizing in our air-to-air missile. Numerous organizations have contributed to this missile. Roketsan's advantage is that it has invested heavily in the ramjet project for the past three or four years. We have reached a certain level of progress in this area. Hopefully, we will begin testing the first versions of the GÖKBORA missile very soon."

Murat İkinci emphasized that they are focusing their R&D efforts on systems not supplied to Türkiye, stating that the GÖKBORA has far superior features compared to its counterparts not supplied to Türkiye.

Roketsan Genel Müdürü İkinci: TAYFUN geniş bir aile ve daha da genişleyecek

Roketsan Genel Müdürü İkinci, "TAYFUN BLOK-4 geliştirme aşamasının sonlarına yaklaştı ve test atışları inşallah başlıyor. TAYFUN geniş bir aile ve daha da genişleyecek." dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[Bogeyman]

Murat İkinci, noting that the TAYFUN project is currently underway with mass production and deliveries underway, said, "The BLOK-4 missile is currently one of the heaviest, largest, and fastest missiles developed by Roketsan. This is one of the most advanced examples of ballistic missile technology, demonstrating the current state of the Turkish defense industry in line with the developments taking place around us. The TAYFUN BLOK-4 is a missile that will strengthen the Turkish Armed Forces due to its hypersonic and long-range capabilities, as well as its warhead."

Murat İkinci, noting that the missile they developed incorporates ballistic missile technology and pinpoint-hit missile technologies, said, "The TAYFUN BLOK-4 development phase is nearing completion, and test launches are hopefully beginning. The TAYFUN family is a large one and will expand even further. The TAYFUN blocks and features will expand as a family, depending on the variety of warheads and the missions to be performed."

Murat İkinci explained that R&D studies are ongoing, saying, "When these R&D studies reach a certain level of maturity, we will share them, as we did with the Tayfun BLOK-4. Some may be abandoned before reaching a certain level of maturity. However, the TAYFUN family will continue to seriously enhance its features and capabilities by adding new ones. One of the TAYFUN's key features, in addition to being hypersonic, is its onboard sensors. These sensors incorporate numerous technologies that allow it to effectively engage its target and protect itself from battlefield impacts. From this perspective, we can say that the TAYFUN BLOK-4 is actually one of the most advanced examples of the TAYFUN family. Are there more? Yes, there are. There are other blocks in the works. When these reach a certain level of maturity, we will share them with our people, God willing."


Murat İkinci, explaining that the GÖKBORA missile unveiled at the fair is a member of the solid-fuel ramjet family, said, "A solid-fuel ramjet is a missile developed for the first time in Türkiye. As you know, TÜBİTAK SAGE's GÖKHAN missile features liquid-fuel ramjet technology. We are also working very closely with TÜBİTAK SAGE. That missile and our GÖKBORA missile can essentially be launched from within the KIZILELMA and KAAN platforms, that is, from their internal weapon stations. This will enable it to engage air targets without compromising their stealth capabilities."

Murat İkinci, noting that the missile is a ramjet and a very long-range missile with a beyond-visual-range capability, said, "This missile, with its capabilities, can actually navigate its target using data collected not only from onboard sensors but also from other sensors. It incorporates numerous technologies. This will be one of the features we are maximizing in our air-to-air missile. Numerous organizations have contributed to this missile. Roketsan's advantage is that it has invested heavily in the ramjet project for the past three or four years. We have reached a certain level of progress in this area. Hopefully, we will begin testing the first versions of the GÖKBORA missile very soon."

Murat İkinci emphasized that they are focusing their R&D efforts on systems not supplied to Türkiye, stating that the GÖKBORA has far superior features compared to its counterparts not supplied to Türkiye.

Roketsan Genel Müdürü İkinci: TAYFUN geniş bir aile ve daha da genişleyecek

Roketsan Genel Müdürü İkinci, "TAYFUN BLOK-4 geliştirme aşamasının sonlarına yaklaştı ve test atışları inşallah başlıyor. TAYFUN geniş bir aile ve daha da genişleyecek." dedi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

It's important to emphasize something.

Even if ballistic missiles fly at hypersonic speeds, they are not called hypersonic missiles. The very fact that this missile is called a hypersonic missile signifies that it is no longer a ballistic missile. Furthermore, the fact that its main body resembles a ballistic missile doesn't necessarily mean it flies on a ballistic trajectory.

You cannot determine the direction of a missile that may be the only one of its kind by looking at the "concepts" used previously.

"The BLOK-4 missile is one of the heaviest, largest, and fastest missiles currently available under the TAYFUN missile system, developed by Roketsan. This is one of the most extreme examples of ballistic missile technology that demonstrates the current state of the Turkish defense industry, in line with the developments taking place around us."

You can't say a scramjet isn't suitable for a missile whose average speed is clearly "implied" to exceed Mach 5-6. Whether or not the missile is a hypersonic glide vehicle isn't relevant here. The only thing that matters is the possibility that the literature on the project before us (as with others) will introduce a new definition/concept.

 

[Bogeyman]

It's important to emphasize something.

Even if ballistic missiles fly at hypersonic speeds, they are not called hypersonic missiles. The very fact that this missile is called a hypersonic missile signifies that it is no longer a ballistic missile. Furthermore, the fact that its main body resembles a ballistic missile doesn't necessarily mean it flies on a ballistic trajectory.

You cannot determine the direction of a missile that may be the only one of its kind by looking at the "concepts" used previously.

"The BLOK-4 missile is one of the heaviest, largest, and fastest missiles currently available under the TAYFUN missile system, developed by Roketsan. This is one of the most extreme examples of ballistic missile technology that demonstrates the current state of the Turkish defense industry, in line with the developments taking place around us."

You can't say a scramjet isn't suitable for a missile whose average speed is clearly "implied" to exceed Mach 5-6. Whether or not the missile is a hypersonic glide vehicle isn't relevant here. The only thing that matters is the possibility that the literature on the project before us (as with others) will introduce a new definition/concept.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1947713376903426089

The newest member of the Typhoon family strikes its target at hypersonic speeds.
Block-4: A speed unmatched by air defense systems!
The previous version was Mach 5.5 (~6,600 km/h).
Block-4's estimated speed: Mach 8-10 → ~12,348 km/h

Speculation mode on

If such a statement has indeed been made, it means we likely have a second scramjet engine project.

Because it's clear that the speeds reported in the Roketsan magazine have nothing to do with high hypersonic speeds.

Speculation mode off

An additional note: Various sources have also clearly told me that a hypersonic glide vehicle is not being developed here. Therefore, yes, we are developing a scramjet.

 

[Yasar_TR]

It's important to emphasize something.

Even if ballistic missiles fly at hypersonic speeds, they are not called hypersonic missiles. The very fact that this missile is called a hypersonic missile signifies that it is no longer a ballistic missile. Furthermore, the fact that its main body resembles a ballistic missile doesn't necessarily mean it flies on a ballistic trajectory.

You cannot determine the direction of a missile that may be the only one of its kind by looking at the "concepts" used previously.

"The BLOK-4 missile is one of the heaviest, largest, and fastest missiles currently available under the TAYFUN missile system, developed by Roketsan. This is one of the most extreme examples of ballistic missile technology that demonstrates the current state of the Turkish defense industry, in line with the developments taking place around us."

You can't say a scramjet isn't suitable for a missile whose average speed is clearly "implied" to exceed Mach 5-6.
Whether or not the missile is a hypersonic glide vehicle isn't relevant here. The only thing that matters is the possibility that the literature on the project before us (as with others) will introduce a new definition/concept.

Sorry! But can you explain what you mean with these statements. It doesn’t make sense.

As far as Hypersonic missile technology go, what I understand goes like this :

1. A ballistic missile may fly briefly in hypersonic speeds
2. A ballistic missile may fly most of it’s flight with hypersonic speed.
3. A ballistic missile after launch may fly all of it’s flight at hypersonic speed.
4. A air breathing missile may fly all of it’s flight at hypersonic speeds after launch.

Bora is an example of case 1
Tayfun is an example of case 2
ICBMs and MRBMs are examples of case 3
Scramjet powered missiles are examples for case 4

When we are talking about “hypersonic” missile technology, we are Infact talking about missiles that can manoeuvre and do not fly out of atmosphere. These include ballistic missiles like Tayfun whose trajectories are suppressed to 40km to 70km altitude. (They are called quasi ballistic). And scramjet missiles that do not fly above 35-40km altitude.
This gives the advantage of avoiding exo-atmospheric interceptors by not flying out of the atmosphere, and staying out of reach of the long range AD systems.

ICBMs, MRBMs and SRBMs may fly at hypersonic speeds but they are not part of the ”hypersonic” family of missiles and technology we are discussing at the moment.

HGVs (Hypersonic Glide Vehicles) are also a part of the same discussion family. They fly within atmosphere, gliding and jumping up and down and manoeuvring. They start their flight at hypersonic speeds and fly most of their flight at that speed.

 

[Yasar_TR]

The newest member of the Typhoon family strikes its target at hypersonic speeds.

Can you please share the source of this statement please?
This is huge if true.

 

[Bogeyman]

Sorry! But can you explain what you mean with these statements. It doesn’t make sense.

As far as Hypersonic missile technology go, what I understand goes like this :

1. A ballistic missile may fly briefly in hypersonic speeds
2. A ballistic missile may fly most of it’s flight with hypersonic speed.
3. A ballistic missile after launch may fly all of it’s flight at hypersonic speed.
4. A air breathing missile may fly all of it’s flight at hypersonic speeds after launch.

Bora is an example of case 1
Tayfun is an example of case 2
ICBMs and MRBMs are examples of case 3
Scramjet powered missiles are examples for case 4

When we are talking about “hypersonic” missile technology, we are Infact talking about missiles that can manoeuvre and do not fly out of atmosphere. These include ballistic missiles like Tayfun whose trajectories are suppressed to 40km to 70km altitude. (They are called quasi ballistic). And scramjet missiles that do not fly above 35-40km altitude.
This gives the advantage of avoiding exo-atmospheric interceptors by not flying out of the atmosphere, and staying out of reach of the long range AD systems.

ICBMs, MRBMs and SRBMs may fly at hypersonic speeds but they are not part of the ”hypersonic” family of missiles and technology we are discussing at the moment.

HGVs (Hypersonic Glide Vehicles) are also a part of the same discussion family. They fly within atmosphere, gliding and jumping up and down and manoeuvring. They start their flight at hypersonic speeds and fly most of their flight at that speed.

You've written exactly what I wanted to say. Even if ballistic missiles reach hypersonic speeds, their trajectory is predictable. However, hypersonic missiles, with their high-speed maneuverability, can travel on unpredictable routes.

 

[Bogeyman]

Can you please share the source of this statement please?
This is huge if true.

I don't have any information about the accuracy of the news. However, I asked my friend at Anadolu Agency to confirm it. I'll write back when he responds.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Is Tayfun-4 a proper Hypersonic missile now or not?

I know this is extremely basic but when I look at Fattah-2 and Tayfun-4 then Tayfun-4 gives me a bit of an outdated look. I have a little bit of doubt that ours isn't a proper Hypersonic one.

Ofc I could be 100% wrong here.