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[Ghost soldier]

 

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[Ghost soldier]

Even the Moroccan M1's stand no chance against the Kornet. It is going to be a slaughter if Algeria decides to invade.

Morocco also operates kornets but the Kornet is not a strategic weapon since it did not help armenia against azerbaijan in karabakh and any algerian invasion of morocco is doomed to failed because most of morocco is mountainous and no army had ever easily invaded a country with mountainous terrain ( ex:Afghanistan)

 

[larbi]

erm ... no, there is nothing special about this modification! these are literally just strapon kits sold everywhere and can be added to vehicles everywhere (in your backyard too if you have one) and there is nothing automated about the system either (no EO/IR no stepper motors nada!).

the only benefit of that contraption is that it dampens oscillations faster than the vehicle suspension can, the ZU-23 autocannons are going to still be too inaccurate and only used in fire suppression roles.
other than this making it immobile and hiding in berms is just the same old soviet mentality that resulted in mass casualties in the Karabakh war.
with the spread of cheap SUAS (recon for artillery) and loitering munitions, modern ATGM's threats. a more appropriate name for this config should be the sitting duck!



you're not facing anything and can't afford war even with paramilitary forces, a country with a fragile economy relying on fragile oil & gas infrastructure is not going to engage in a war with its peer defense and geopolitical rival.
this goes with a reminder that spending large chunks of your county's budget on corrupt deals for outdated/downgraded export Russian tech is not what wins wars nor is it gonna make you capable of projecting power far from your border let alone being an invading force!

behind the facade, your country is just a scaled-up Armenia waiting for humiliation.



blatant lies against video proof!



you're the one posting here pretending to know more than you do on a Moroccan topic, I'm only responding to your comments

how is this ME wasting anyone's time?

and to be honest, if i was you i wouldn't be running my mouth around forums calling any equipment junk!
on the latest Algerian exercise, the bulk and majority of the equipment featured were from the '50s!!

air defense: shelka /strela/OSA/ anciant manpads !! with outdated export SALH air defense missiles in the BUK&S-300
armor: T-55 and other real junk
I can keep listing if I'd remembered more

this scrap armor (tanks) is in the inventory of HAFTER forces & Wagner in Libya, you have MRAP's he does, you have UCAV's he does ( even the way better Wing loong 2) , you have the outdated export BUK ? guess what, Wagners operate them for Hafter .

before looking down on libyan militias take a look at yourself.

some pics exposing the hypocrisy of this member lol :

1) net-centric datalinks ( aka talkie walkie)

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2) high tech remote turrets ( aka soviet anti-air auto cannons on pickups) Algeria is the biggest user of this high-end tech in Africa!

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[Chakib larbi]

- both nations operate & buy Kornet ATGMs, with morocco operating silent radio-guided ATGMs
- Moroccan abrams are superior in comparison to the severely downgraded old version of T-90 and T-72 and T-60/T-55 in Algeria.

i agree

The Abrams tank, exported to Arab countries,its armor proved to be quick to penetrate and destroyed even by soviet era Atgm's ask the saudi or the iraki , with superiority of the algerian army the moroccan abrams will be a piece of cake..in the good hand the T-90 prove it self in syrian war even against western atgm ,in term of on board equipment algerian army started modernizing its fleet of T-90's with the german rheinmetall defense.

 

[Ghost soldier]

Haha delusions reign this thread. While a war between the countries is unlikely, just a quick look on the wiki page and the available imagery of both armies is enough to draw the conclusion that Morocco is going to lose everything east and south of the Atlas in the event of a war.

2200 vs 8000 kornets
A handful of mixed modern and old stuff vs a whole plethora of modern ADS
300 MBT's vs 1000 modern MBT's
No ATGM IFV's vs almost a 1000 ATGM IFV's + Terminators
20 old light attack helicopters vs 70+ modern heavy attack helicopters
0 subs vs 6 subs


and the list goes on....

But one ridicules Algeria's use of the ZSU-23-2 even though it uses it on a more superior firing platform than Morocco

You are better than this @larbi

LOL it is about quality not quantity and the global firepower data should not be used to say an X country is better than a Y country and and Algerian military heavily relies on soviet/Russian doctrine which focuses on having more tanks and planes than having modern tech
By your logic you say that if Algeria has 3000 t-72 old tanks and Morocco only 300 modern tanks but you forgot how Arab armies who have even 100000 tanks were wiped out by western modern armies ( Iraq Libya Syria etc)
And Moroccan army is silently upgrading its inventory to keep pace while Algerian army still believes that it is stronger with the obsolete doctrine of Arab armies

 

[Ghost soldier]

Because Morocco has little to show for. The African Lion exercises are basically Moroccans walking around with US guns and material and the poor US soldiers walking around with faded and rusty AK's and that for more than a decade with no improvement on the Moroccan side whatsoever. A total embarrassment better not displayed on TV.

Moroccan armed forces are not a show and propaganda army like the Algerian army since it relies on professionalism and work in secret and if you believe that Moroccan army only trains on AKS and never does real training then this video debunks everything you said

 

[Nilgiri]

An interesting convo and I learned quite a bit from last couple pages.

A request though:

Folks can we leave the text colouring to be default pls (as much as possible).

Default works with both regular and dark mode automatically (i.e it is black for regular and auto changes to white for dark background mode).

If you really need to colour something, do so sparingly (call attention to something specific etc) and use something like Red/orange as that works (as far as contrast with background) in both modes.

Blue is very hard to see (in dark background setting many users like me have), and editing back to black seems to get rid of the auto-change feature for dark mode (and the text essentially turns invisible) as it is no longer on default setting.

 

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[Steel]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1410187769977008128

How likely is this to be true? If true Morocco will be the first country to receive Turkish ew. Except our foreign utilize.
Is there any confirmative information from moroccan side?
After the deal of TB-2 it is possible to see ew deal. I believe it is most likely to be redet but there must be some downgrades. Our systems should be unique as this is a highly sophisticated system.

 

[Chakib larbi]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1410187769977008128

How likely is this to be true? If true Morocco will be the first country to receive Turkish ew. Except our foreign utilize.
Is there any confirmative information from moroccan side?
After the deal of TB-2 it is possible to see ew deal. I believe it is most likely to be redet but there must be some downgrades. Our systems should be unique as this is a highly sophisticated system.

In fact the source does not mention the name of Morocco at all

Turkish defense giant Aselsan inks $50.7M export deal

Turkish defense giant Aselsan inked an export agreement worth 42.59 million euros ($50.7 million) with an undisclosed customer, according to a company...

www.dailysabah.com

 

[Steel]

In fact the source does not mention the name of Morocco at all

Turkish defense giant Aselsan inks $50.7M export deal

Turkish defense giant Aselsan inked an export agreement worth 42.59 million euros ($50.7 million) with an undisclosed customer, according to a company...

www.dailysabah.com

Yes aselsan's official statement kept the consumer confidential. Therefore, I wanted to ask further confirmation but due to the fact that there is a TB-2 deal with Morocco and ew is a complementary, Morocco may desire to have this ew systems.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

That is a lot of money. Do you know what the Moroccans are interested in? I've heard they want the F-35. And does the allocation include the Apache deal and the 25 F-16V plus 23 upgrade packages, the MICA VL and Cesaer SPG?

Yes to counter Algeria's Sukhoi57. Only problem for Morocco is that it is heavily indebted and won't afford the F-35.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

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Moroccan Army
Battle Tank

 T-72BV  150
 M48A5  200
 M60A1  300+
 M60A3  120+
 MBT-2000 VT-1A  54
 M1A1SA abrams (special armor)  222
M1A2M abrams 162 (to be delivered)


Armored vehicles

 EBR-75  16
 AML-90  140
 AML-60  38
 Ratel 20mm gun  30
 Ratel 90mm gun  30
 VAB VCI  45
 VAB MTB  320
 UR-416  55
 AMX-10RC  120
 ERC-90 Lynx  20
 SK-105 Kürassier  105
 AMX-10RC  80
 OT-62 / OT-64  100
 M113A1  420
 AMX-13  54
 AMX-10P  10
 M-901 TOW  80
 URO VAMTAC  1200
 URO VAM-TL  800
 URO M3-21.14 TT  250
 IVECO TRACTOR  100
 AIFV  110
 HMMWW  + 1510


Anti-Air Defense

 sky dragon 50
Hq-9B
Mica vl( to be delivered)  
 Chaparral M-54  37(retired)
 M-163 Vulcan  60
 Tunguska M-1  6 systems of 6 launchers
 ZSU-23-4 Shilka  (retired) 
 SA-7  70
 ZPU-2 14.5mm  200
 ZPU-4 14.5mm  20
 M-167 20mm  40
 ZU-23-2 23mm  140

Artillery and MRLS

 PHL03 AR2 300 mm  12 batteries
 BM-21 122mm  26
 M-1979 122mm  14
 L-118 105mm  30
 M-101 105mm  20
 M-1950 105mm  36
 M-46 130mm  18
 M-114 155mm  20
 FH-70 155mm  36
 M-198 155mm  26
 AMX Mk61 105mm  6
 F-3 155 mm  98
 M-109A1 / 5  250
 M-44 155mm  20
 M-110 203mm  60
 VAB Mortar 120mm  20
 M1064 120mm Mortar Carrier  +91

Light and heavy weapons

 Mortar 81mm  870
 Mortar 120mm Brandt  580
 Mortar M-160 160mm  24
 Dragon  500
 Milan  200
 TOW-1 / 2A  70+
 AT-3 Sagger  50
 LAW 66mm  
 89 mm  
 M-40A1 106mm  350
 M-56 90mm  28
 SU-100SP 100mm  8
 KS-19 Towed  17
 KORNET  50
 KONKURS  50 launchers
 METIS-M  50 (Ordered)
 HOT  20 +
 MG M60  +3000
 MG M60D  +2000

Morocco ranks 55 in Global Fire Power ranking, way below its neighbor Algeria which ranks 27.

 

[Chakib larbi]