TR Naval Programs

[Tornadoss]

Nationalisation of weapons and sub-systems
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Will ESSM be replaced by Hisar or G-40 or is G-40 under hisar family?

 

[Anmdt]

We need more explanation , mentioning just couple word is unfair. I think the SAPAN is the biggest challenge of Türkish Navy.

I don't know more than a few words as well.

Is this okay to share this with public? You can clearly see the propellers. The Official Ministry account deleted the tweet later but I hope the Turkish Defense Ministry knows that the Twitter is a huge blackhole. Serious OPSEC failure for Turkish Navy, damn.

By the way, does anyone know who's running the official account?

Some people in SSB is really stupid though they have published the video right away without appointing Navy personnel, not the propeller but the hub should have been covered or not shown by video.
Germans have revealed those far before than us

Or again germans too:

Or italians revealing Type 212 which i believe uses same class of the propellers and a similar hub. Although, they are covering the hub

 

[Tornadoss]

What is the secrecy about the propeller?

 

[Anmdt]

Nationalisation of weapons and sub-systems
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Updates:
-Turkish Navy doesn't have SeaRAM but RAM, Sapan will replace it.
-Hisar doesn't replace ESSM but G-40 does.
-Milper has gone boom, i don't think it has any personnel anymore. So some parts related to shaft,stern tube and propellers have failed currently.

Highlights:
-Cenk-S is the name of Aselsan's 3D search radar.

What is the secrecy about the propeller?

The shape used to be secret, not anymore, the tip point and number of blades tell a lot to people who works in acoustics field. Nobody keeps hiding it unless it has a fairing-duct (ie. a water-jet type propulsion), the distance between duct and hull, number of blades of the impeller is more secret nowadays.

 

[dustdevil]

But I learnt from "savunma sanayi uzmanları" that software was more important, what is happening??

 

[Combat-Master]

A rather schitty image of CENK-S

 

[Anmdt]

A rather schitty image of CENK-S
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On the mast

 

[Combat-Master]

On the mast

If it's not 4k resolution it's shitty

 

[Nilgiri]

A rather schitty image of CENK-S

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On the mast

Thanks, it improved...hnnngggghhh

 

[Anmdt]

On the mast

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Thanks, it improved...hnnngggghhh

At least relative size to the mast,which is available in HD, can be estimated
I don't know why these companies are so stingy with these images, STM doesn't share it in their own website as well.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Deniz platformları Roketsan HİSAR-RF Füzesi ile korunacak

Türk Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı'na ait deniz platformları, Roketsan tarafından yerli imkanlarla geliştirilen HİSAR-RF Hava Savunma Füze Sistemi ile korunacak.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Turkish naval ships will have the protection umbrella of Hisar-RF missile system.
In place of the ESSM systems with similar range and characteristics, Hisar-RF missiles will be launched from ships like I-class frigates using MDAS indigenous vertical launch systems.

 

[yusuf]

 

[Tornadoss]

Deniz platformları Roketsan HİSAR-RF Füzesi ile korunacak

Türk Deniz Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı'na ait deniz platformları, Roketsan tarafından yerli imkanlarla geliştirilen HİSAR-RF Hava Savunma Füze Sistemi ile korunacak.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Turkish naval ships will have the protection umbrella of Hisar-RF missile system.
In place of the ESSM systems with similar range and characteristics, Hisar-RF missiles will be launched from ships like I-class frigates using MDAS indigenous vertical launch systems.
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Can Hisar-RF quad-packed?

 

[Oublious]

Can Hisar-RF quad-packed?

Hisar navy will be quad backed...

 

[Stuka]

Prof. Dr. İsmail Demir head of the ministry of defense talked about TCG ANADOLU LHD (Juan Carlos L400)

> The Cost for one Ship is approx. 35% less than what Egypt paid for French MISTRAL LHD. Egypt bought 2 LHDs for 1.062 Billion US.
1 LHD Costs 531 Million USD - 35% = 345 Million USD

=> TCG ANADOLU LHD Cost 345 Million USD to built which seems to be quite affordable.

Around 51 Min

for Comparison:

Australia Canberra Class (based on Juan Carlos l400) Costed them 1.55 Billion each. all the way back in 2007 (Inflation isn't taken in account)

 

[Hexciter]

Can Hisar-RF quad-packed?

If will have the folding wings, the answer is yes. The current Army form has not.

 

[Anmdt]

What was revealed by Aselsan REHIS Director yesterday in ITU SAVTEK seminars:

For Istanbul Class:
CENK-S (S Band AESA) expected to have 400km range.
AKR-CWI ,Illumination radar (might be renaming for AKR-D Block 1-2, might be an upgraded variant),replacement of STIR

For FAC:
X-DAR, based on ÇAFRAD's ÇFR module, X band multi-purpose radar,150km+ range

What is expected yet not revealed or still not existing: CENK-S fixed face radar acompanied by X-DAR, or vice versa, ÇFR accompanied by CENK-S.

For future: Naval MIMO radar. Not sure whether intended for separated use with T/R modules on a single ship or between multiple ships. Timeline indicates we will hear or see the prototype before FAC is commissioned. in 2030+ CAFRAD will have a MIMO variant.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Köse from SSB, We will procure one LHD. There is a need for it. The situation will be determined soon.

 

[Test7]

AKR-CWI ,Illumination radar (might be renaming for AKR-D Block 1-2, might be an upgraded variant),replacement of STIR

Maybe this is the what you mean.. According to statement, it'll release in 2021.

 

[Combat-Master]

Maybe this is the what you mean.. According to statement, it'll release in 2021.

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Yep. It's been named as AKREP (Scorpion)