TR Naval Programs

[Combat-Master]

Desing of Turkish OPV. Also hi guys

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381556744728498179

Welcome to the forum!

That is a good looking OPV!

 

[Anmdt]

ULAQ ASUW

An USV carrying another USV,
USVception.

Desing of Turkish OPV. Also hi guys

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381556744728498179

Hi and Welcome.

For the OPV:
Yep, i told it won't be like OPV-2100.
However,i think it might have something more than shown on that picture.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Desing of Turkish OPV. Also hi guys

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381556744728498179

Welcome to the forum.

 

[Combat-Master]

Amphibious mechanized landing craft for TCG Anadolu

 

[TheInsider]

OPV will be able to carry the Ulaq base(patrol) version. We can cover a lot of sea areas with 4x OPVs and Ulaq USVs. An unmanned helicopter drone is added. The front 30mm cannon is replaced with a 76mm cannon. Radar mast reworked to accommodate more advanced radar and comms and electronic systems and I'm guessing the vessel can be fitted with either MRAShM or AShM in war conditions(fitted but not with). IMHO one mistake is the lack of a CIWS system. Gokdeniz CIWS should be there on the top of the Hangar.

 

[Anmdt]

The front 30mm cannon is replaced with a 76mm cannon. Radar mast reworked to accommodate more advanced radar and comms and electronic systems and I'm guessing the vessel can be fitted with either MRAShM or AShM in war conditions(fitted but not with). IMHO one mistake is the lack of a CIWS system. Gokdeniz CIWS should be there on the top of the Hangar.

The front cannon is not replaced with 76 mm, it was already 76mm since the beginning. STM's designs were a portfolio study ,not an actual design for Turkish Navy's OPV project.
Turkish Navy's OPV project directly based on Ada-Class, like OPV-2100 was also a benefiting from the Ada class know-how. OPV-2100 has never been the base for Turkish Navy's OPV. You can look at the mast to closely see it is slightly modified version of Ada-Class.

+ It is also FFNBW for the CIWS, it is very unusual for deck area to be left empty after the exhaust channel, there will be "something" on there. You may see it when the design is officially released.

Furthermore: These ships are aimed to be in service as quick as possible with least amount of systems to take the burden of Ada-Class, and some other systems will be removed from retiring platforms and will be installed on these by time.

 

[Yasar_TR]

I can just see basket shaped VLS housing at the sides in place of those holes made, like the Italian carrier Cavour has. They have to put more self protection weapons on to these ships. Cavour has two oto Melara super rapids (in front and back), batteries of Aster missiles in the VLS canisters In addition to their various CIWS guns.

 

[Anmdt]

ULAQ ASW

Looks like the MC variant has ASW rockets too. It can be further be used with Orka LWT & ASW towed sonar (except than the MC sonar)

 

[Yasar_TR]

Looks like the MC variant has ASW rockets too. It can be further be used with Orka LWT & ASW towed sonar (except than the MC sonar)

View attachment 18107

In a way, this little boat may take weight off Tuzla class and Milgem Corvettes. Much cheaper and faster way to fight subs.

 

[Siper>MMU]

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I can just see basket shaped VLS housing at the sides in place of those holes made, like the Italian carrier Cavour has. They have to put more self protection weapons on to these ships. Cavour has two oto Melara super rapids (in front and back), batteries of Aster missiles in the VLS canisters In addition to their various CIWS guns.

Where are they ? Can't see.

 

[Anmdt]

In a way, this little boat may take weight off Tuzla class and Milgem Corvettes. Much cheaper and faster way to fight subs.

Or deployed from Tuzla Class, extending its capabilities, deployed from Milgem (when SOF is not present) and enhancing ASW role. Also more silent than the other two and can easily sneak around.
The real equivalent of plug and play, install the needed USV using common console interfaces and deploy them through common ways (winches, stern ramp).

 

[Yasar_TR]

Where are they ? Can't see.

Then you have no imagination !

 

[Anmdt]

View attachment 18103
I can just see basket shaped VLS housing at the sides in place of those holes made, like the Italian carrier Cavour has. They have to put more self protection weapons on to these ships. Cavour has two oto Melara super rapids (in front and back), batteries of Aster missiles in the VLS canisters In addition to their various CIWS guns.

The outer shell is made of a different kind of steel than the usual high yield steels, which makes it harder to add on modules on the sides since the steel is sensitive to heat treatment. The outer shell at that particular location should be peeled and the modules shall be added. Won't be hard too but it is just another batch of work which navy won't like.
In my opinion add RAM(Turkish one) and leave the TCG Anadolu as is.
Bargaining, add 2x RAM in addition to 2 x CIWS, add one Mar-D in addition to Smart-S (Or newer Cenk-S)
It supposed to have 2x40mm guns in the beginning, later they have opted for STOP.

 

[Yasar_TR]

The outer shell is made of a different kind of steel that the usual high yield steels, which makes it harder to add on modules on the sides since the steel is sensitive to heat treatment. The outer shell at that particular location should be peeled and the modules shall be added. Won't be hard too but it is just another batch of work which navy won't like.
In my opinion add RAM(Turkish one) and leave the TCG Anadolu as is.
It supposed to have 2x40mm guns in the beginning, later they have switched it all to STOP.

I can understand the difficulty of grafting extra panels on to existing ones. But as they say in English: “if there is a will, there is a way!”

 

[Oublious]

Am i thinking wrong? Are they going use EW on the TCG Andolu? First mast is for radar for sure, the second like some kind EW mast>?

 

[Combat-Master]

 

[Combat-Master]

ULAQ has Telescopic E/O mast

LOS and BLOS Communication
Capable in operating in SWARM mode

Coastal Control Station with 200km range

ARES & Meteksan co-development

Live test firing will commence first quarter of 2021 (Mid May) with Cirit Missile

 

[Combat-Master]

ULAQ ASUW

Designed to be equipped with ATMACA ASCM or TRG-230

 

[Anmdt]

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2022 -> Ares 95 FAMB
2023 -> Ares 125 FAMB
2024 -> Ares 55 OPV (by BMT)

Who has ordered these?

 

[Anmdt]

Am i thinking wrong? Are they going use EW on the TCG Andolu? First mast is for radar for sure, the second like some kind EW mast>?

Yes, + IFF systems.

https://www.aselsan.com.tr/LHD_6146.pdf

Electronic warfare suite,
Electronic support-countermeasures sytems
Electronic warfare systems

- First mast is for radar + EW /ES, KATS, IFF

- Second mast is for Comms, navigational radars etc.

- In midst of them: SatCom, drone comms.

There are also several others on each masts to guide landing assist radars, or aircraft detection radars, E/O.