TR Naval Programs

Combat-Master · Mar 31, 2021

dustdevil said:
Sorry, could not understand initially. I thought you linked 120mm HE-T as an example of MKEK capability so tried to answer it.

"So if they do it alone, it could be similar to another well known product."

Usually this happens for other calibres. For electronic parts they will need outside support (Aselsan, Roketsan, SAGE)

For long range rounds, if it would be crude tech, they can increase propellant for base bleed, increase barrel pressure etc, add static wings with the help of another company if they did not advance in-house capabilities.

Other option would be to reverse engineer or make a functional copy of another foreign product.

I'm just wildly guessing, don't take my word for it. I can't trust MKEK but would be very happy if it's possible.

MKEK definitely does not have the resources to develop or produce electronics or software. They are however mass producers of the shells, so will always have a part to play in the production process.

Tubitak SAGE are also working on another method for course corrected shells.

*the image is an Raytheon Excalibur 127mm* However, likely to be similar to what Tubitak SAGE/MKEK are working on for 155mm guided munition

It'll be interesting to see what 76mm guided shell will be like

not sure how far along they are with that

Anmdt · Apr 1, 2021

Combat-Master · Apr 3, 2021

How many AH-1W do we have in inventory, perhaps we could transfer these to Navy. Not sure how much Navalization T-129 require, but for the interim - AH-1W should do.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1378243356317351937

Yasar_TR · Apr 3, 2021

MKEK‘s 76mm gun for naval platforms may not be an Oto Melara Super Rapid. But if it can hit a helicopter at 16km range it will do the job. What MKEK should be doing now is; with the help of Aselsan they need to develop a vulcano like shell that will hit that same helicopter or plane at 40 km range.
Vulcano shells were produced by collaboration of BAE Systems and Leonardo.
These do not use motors to propel the shell. But because of the aerodynamic design of the shell and fins it is guided. Hence gives pinpoint accuracy and longer range.
A 16km range 76mm shell turns in to a 40km vulcano shell.
Same is valid for 127mm and 155mm guns.

VULCANO 127mm

www.leonardocompany.com

https://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/20142/3150941/OTO_Vulcano_155_LQ_mm08723_.pdf?t=1538987711480

Anmdt · Apr 4, 2021

UkroTurk 🚬 said:
What's more, the Algerian amphibious transport deck which is half weight of our LHD has Aster 30!!!!
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Telling again, i am more in favor of CAFRAD multi-purpose X band module + ESSM like point defense missile combo on Anadolu than Siper or Hisar. Also it is better if they can make a shorter variant of MIDLAS for ESSM like missile so that it can be installed easily.
CAFRAD can be installed on a second mast, while Smart-S on main mast can be replaced with CENK-S.
The duo will be like, not in range but function, APAR + Smart-L duo which is also similarly(but with their own version) considered on Korean LPX or on Izumo Class.

With CAFRAD CFR (Multi-purpose module) and illumination radars multiple AD missiles can engage at multiple targets at once. Also such a radar in X band will give a better coverage,instantly on 360 degrees, to further guide CIWS and RAM.
Also if i am not mistaken CFR module can also be used to aid approaching aircraft.

Combat-Master · Apr 5, 2021

Anmdt · Apr 5, 2021

Combat-Master said:

I love this guy, wish he joins our forum

Yasar_TR · Apr 5, 2021

anmdt said:
I love this guy, wish he joins our forum

I thought he was already here few months ago

Anmdt · Apr 5, 2021

From one scientific study, this is not one of the generic models (DTMB 5483-84 or Insean E1619) of propellers, obviously from a real-case application, look at those edges cut to lessen probability of cavitation as seen in Type 214s .

Nilgiri · Apr 5, 2021

Yasar said:
I thought he was already here few months ago

@Reviewbrah you are missed

Bogeyman · Apr 5, 2021

anmdt said:
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From one scientific study, this is not one of the generic models (DTMB 5483-84 or Insean E1619) of propellers, obviously from a real-case application, look at those edges cut to lessen probability of cavitation as seen in Type 214s .

Dude, why didn't you tell us that the Chinese are technology!

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Anmdt · Apr 5, 2021

Bogeyman said:
Dude, why didn't you tell us that the Chinese are technology!

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Could share the source if you have asked

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Bogeyman · Apr 5, 2021

anmdt said:
Could share the source if you have asked .

I download and share the article for you my friend. You can download from the link above.
Meanwhile, be careful that the authors passed in the article are from China ship development and design center. This institute is one of the critical centers for the Chinese Navy.

Profile of Chinese Journal of Ship Research

zgjcyj.xml-journal.net

Anmdt · Apr 5, 2021

Bogeyman said:
I download and share the article for you my friend. You can download from the link above.
Meanwhile, be careful that the authors passed in the article are from China ship development and design center. This institute is one of the critical centers for the Chinese Navy.

Profile of Chinese Journal of Ship Research

zgjcyj.xml-journal.net

Yep i know who they are, might share geometry files as well if anyone interested, or other articles from other collegues in other marine related instutes from China.
And thanks, i have got the file already, otherwise how could i share the propeller images in the first place?

Bogeyman · Apr 5, 2021

anmdt said:
Yep i know who they are, might share geometry files as well if anyone interested, or other articles from other collegues in other marine related instutes from China.
And thanks, i have got the file already, otherwise how could i share the propeller images in the first place?

You are right.