All what i can say to that point is saying a common saying in my hometown: "what started with blood, will always end in blood and blood can never disappear"Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Greece. We have the same food, same culture. There's no problem between our two countries that can't be solved through diplomacy. We should be on friendly terms. If we had reasonable leaders, we would be.
After WWI Greeks invaded Anatolia and burned and looted and did a lot of heinous things. But in the end they had to learn how to swim. So as far as I'm concerned, we're even. Cyprus, similiar story, mistakes were made and the cost was paid. Whatever, water under the bridge.
The idea that many turks and other nationalities worldwide dont get is a term known as...... double faced hypocrites (no offense to anyone)But there's one thing your country has done recently that was absolutely shameful and that was harboring PKK leaders in 1990'ies. I am of the opinion that if Greece handed over Öcalan to Turkey, today we would be on much better terms. But that's not what they did. A great opportunity was lost.
So here we are, unfortunately thinking that Greece maybe secretly arming or training kurdish terrorists isn't such a great leap in logic.
Turkey and Greece were always at odds.... Period!
Hostility even existed before Ataturk formed the modern Turkey! Greece hates the Turks for destroying their Byzantine Empire (and that is understandable). If it was still alive, they would have still been ruling Europe tbh!
After decades of war, a brief period of peace and good relations began between the two parties until lovely black gold was found in the Mediterranean! Now this lovely source of profit is located between 2 previous superpowers.... so how do we share it? Turkey said.... lets share it in half..... while Greece said lets take most of it on the basis of teeny tiny islands surrounding turkey..... like wtf! Who would accept that! Even the prime backer of Greece's claim.... FRANCE... used to cry and shit themselves to the international court because the UK wanted extra sea territory and yet somehow they are helpimg GREECE with their claims! Like what sort of bullshit hypocricy is this! Many reasons like history and current geopolitical tensions do come into play but lets leave it for another day!
From this point, and tensions were re-ignited. As a citizen, you may think of peace between ppl but a leader who has millions of lives on his shoulders (whether the AKP, CHP, or anyone else) such sources of revenue will aid the people one way or another.... such an example would include the UAE and KSA
Now..... how to force my terms on the other party..... this is the stage in which Turkey and Greece are at right now! Greece is using the West (the current superpowers) and economics as a leverage against the Turks and knowing the hot-blooded mature of the Turks..... they were like.... No FQ it! Why did Greece take Ocalan into protection as you said? Werent the greeks and turks brothers? Didnt you guys share the same culture? Didnt everyone learn his lesson? The answer is that the greeks knew how dangerous the PKK is, they knew how destabilising it would be for Turkey and how it would weaken the Turkish nation internally... so why not support it? And gain everything to yourself!
I wanna say a lot more tbh but I feel that I prolonged it.....I would like you to refer to a post (either on this thread or another and presumably typed by GoatsMilk) about the interactions between Turks and Greeks in Europe and Turks and Kurds in Europe and the you will understand what I mean
if anyone wanna know more.... just look at current tensions between japan and South Korea...... between japan and Russia....... between China and all nations surrounding it......
Iam one of those who believe that history connects us. At the end, we humans sadly dont learn from history. Thus, history repeats itself.
Whether in Japan, Turkey Greece, China, France, Afghanistan, Egypt, Israel, Russia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Philipine, Korea etc..... history is the same but The actors are just different
Many might not agree with what I said and that is fine. Many might call me propaganda believer or whatever but sadly history always states that this is the undeniabke fact! This is my two cents on the issue and how the West's claims for peace are bullshit and the prime example is how Europe acted in Afghanistan