TR Politics

[Afif]

If I remember correctly, his father was an important officer at the head of the junta that carried out the first military coup in Turkey.Later, these soldiers were exiled. And he was born in Japan. Guess what a sharp nationalist ideology he had.

So, in a nutshell what to make of him?

 

[Bürküt]

So, in a nutshell what to make of him?

He is a very keen patriot and an extreme Turkish nationalist .He is right about the refugees. But in general his rhetoric is very harsh even my Kurdish friends are afraid of him.He became very popular at the time when Pakistani and Afghan refugees videotaped Turkish women pervertedly and posted it on social media.I don't think he has an important place in Turkish politics.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

He is a very keen patriot and an extreme Turkish nationalist .He is right about the refugees. But in general his rhetoric is very harsh even my Kurdish friends are afraid of him.He became very popular at the time when Pakistani and Afghan refugees videotaped Turkish women pervertedly and posted it on social media.I don't think he has an important place in Turkish politics.

But someone must solve this refugee crisis. Otherwise I see a civil war one day.

 

[TheInsider]

HÜDA-PAR'dan seçim açıklaması: Arzumuz kendi adımızla girebilmek | Politika Haberleri

HÜDA-PAR Genel Başkanı Hüseyin Yılmaz, seçimlerde BDP ile ittifak iddialarıyla ilgili önemli açıklamalarda bulundu. "İlkeler bazında anlaştıktan sonra her partiyle ittifaka hazırız." diye konuşan Yılmaz, "Arzumuz, kendi adımızla girebilmek" dedi.

www.yenisafak.com

HUDAPAR we can ally with PKK if it is needed.
HUDAPAR vs PKK feud was based on religion. One of them is secular/communist the other one is pro sharia. They both agree on ethnic separatism.

 

[Lool]

That moment when you realise all political parties in Turkey are fqed up and deserve to be locked in jail, loool

 

[Kedikesenfare]

You already said the same with your second account, don't try too hard...

Attacks Turkish Gendarmerie/Military outposts.
Is a leader of seperatist movement named Azadi.
Participates in two rebellions.

But yeah not a seperatist...

I copied his posting to show support to my fellow Gakkoş because he's right on this issue.

Şeyh Said wasn't a separatist, his goal wasn't to destroy Turkiye and carve out a new state for Kurds.

His movement was primarily and almost exclusively religiously motivated. The Şeyh refused to accept the secular and worldy modern state that was forced upon the still deeply religious people of Anatolia who preferred the Pax Ottomanica over the new and alien Kemalist order.

He didn't distinguish between Turks and Kurds. His cause was led by the goal to differentiate between Muslims and Kemalists which is why the Turkish state fought him.

He didn't care about ethnic issues at all; his vision included all of Turkiye.

 

[Kedikesenfare]

HÜDA-PAR'dan seçim açıklaması: Arzumuz kendi adımızla girebilmek | Politika Haberleri

HÜDA-PAR Genel Başkanı Hüseyin Yılmaz, seçimlerde BDP ile ittifak iddialarıyla ilgili önemli açıklamalarda bulundu. "İlkeler bazında anlaştıktan sonra her partiyle ittifaka hazırız." diye konuşan Yılmaz, "Arzumuz, kendi adımızla girebilmek" dedi.

www.yenisafak.com

HUDAPAR we can ally with PKK if it is needed.
HUDAPAR vs PKK feud was based on religion. One of them is secular/communist the other one is pro sharia. They both agree on ethnic separatism.

Another BS claim from you.

Posting a 10 years old news article with dubious sources and content won't change the reality in SE Anatolia.

HÜDA-PAR and PKK are enemies, opponents, foes and blood rivals. No amount of propaganda is going to change this FACT.

For instance, Hudapar supported the Turkish security forces during the Hendek operations.

It is not a secret that PKK is killing HÜDA-PAR members. Usually Hüda-Par retaliates in the same manner.

PKK'lılar Hüda-Par üyesinin evini taradı - Sondakika Haberler

Son Dakika Türkiye Gündem Haberleri - HÜR Dava Partisi (Hüda-Par) Genel Başkan Yardımcısı Vedat Turgut, Diyarbakır'ın merkez Sur İlçesi'nde dün gece bir üyel...

www.cnnturk.com

"Vedat Turgut said that the people were harmed due to the trenches dug in the streets and that the police could not intervene in the events, and that they would no longer allow PKK members to dig trenches in places where Hüda-Par members' houses are located."

PKK assassinated Hüda-Par member V. Turgut during the Hendek wars.


Hüda-Par > HDPKK

 

[Ravenman]

That's why he was the leader of "Azadi" (a organization that attacked Turkish Gendarmerie/Military etc.) after Halid Beg Cibran (hanged 1925) he even was married to his sister...

Azadi was a British supported organization, after their failed rebellion they became a part of Xoybun and started the Ararat rebellion 1927.

He wasn't the leader of Azadi. The leaders of Azadi gave him a 'honourauble membership' from a distance, he never asked for it.

Like football club Beşiktaş gave Michael Jackson a membership of honour from a distance because 'he lived his life half black half white'.

Seyh Sayyid fought only for the sharia and against the Republicans and their Francophonian laicist politics. Every historian from that era and this era knows this.

He didnt regocnize the coup of the Young Turks, and that doesnt make you a terrorist, like being anti-Erdogan doesnt make you guys Gulenists.

Every person has the right to resist a dictatorial government by forming militias and holding a weapon, like it is written in the 4th amendment of the US constitution.

 

[what]

Agreed
Just like how the CHP will give massive concessions to the HDP; the AKP will give concessions to HUDA party as well

You cant just proclaim they are the same things. Please spare me your same same argument. Try to be factual and bring real arguments. No straw man arguments. One is in an alliance and the other one is not.

As far as concessions go, there has been nothing from one alliance. While the courts controlled by the government side have already released the flow of money to HDP.

 

[TheInsider]

HUDAPARs party program.

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Mevcut merkezi ve yerel devlet organizasyon yapısının ıslahı ile beraber, mevcut yapının tabu olarak kabulünden vazgeçilerek olumlu ve olumsuz tüm yönleri ile eyalet sistemi, özerklik, federasyon gibi yönetim modelleri üzerinde serbestçe tartışılabilmelidir. Toplumun huzur, refah ve güveni için gerekli olduğunun toplumun çoğunluğu tarafından kabulü halinde bu modeller uygulanabilmelidir.

Basically, it offers federation, autonomy, and an eyalet system as alternatives to the central government.

 

[TheInsider]

Another BS claim from you.

Posting a 10 years old news article with dubious sources and content won't change the reality in SE Anatolia.

HÜDA-PAR and PKK are enemies, opponents, foes and blood rivals. No amount of propaganda is going to change this FACT.

For instance, Hudapar supported the Turkish security forces during the Hendek operations.

It is not a secret that PKK is killing HÜDA-PAR members. Usually Hüda-Par retaliates in the same manner.

PKK'lılar Hüda-Par üyesinin evini taradı - Sondakika Haberler

Son Dakika Türkiye Gündem Haberleri - HÜR Dava Partisi (Hüda-Par) Genel Başkan Yardımcısı Vedat Turgut, Diyarbakır'ın merkez Sur İlçesi'nde dün gece bir üyel...

www.cnnturk.com

"Vedat Turgut said that the people were harmed due to the trenches dug in the streets and that the police could not intervene in the events, and that they would no longer allow PKK members to dig trenches in places where Hüda-Par members' houses are located."

PKK assassinated Hüda-Par member V. Turgut during the Hendek wars.


Hüda-Par > HDPKK

Source is Yenişafak AKP media outlet. You are becoming more and more cringe. And BTW Şeyh Said is a traitor and crushed like the bug he was. YOu want sharia you want Kurdistan not happening bro live your religion all you want you won't be dictating your religious rules and life style on us. Our laws> your god's laws.

 

[TheInsider]

Shit is happening.
Twitter account for the next elections. Its main audience is Syrians with Turkish IDs and Arabic speakers.

https://twitter.com/secimtrk2023

 

[dBSPL]

Statement from VP:

"The press conference of our chairman Mr. Doğu Perinçek on the "electoral cooperation of the Cumhur Alliance with HÜDAPAR", which was to be held today at 11.00, has been postponed until after the meeting to be held with HÜDAPAR by AK Party Deputy Chairman Mr. Numan Kurtulmuş.

Our Chairman will make an evaluation on behalf of our Party after learning the public statements of AK Party Deputy Chairman Mr. Numan Kurtulmuş and MHP leadership on this issue.

Sincerely."

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Direct or indirect partnerships not only with political parties that are in organic relations with the terrorist organizations of which they are the apparatus, but also with parties that have even the slightest discourse in their party statutes that would endanger the indivisible integrity of the country, will cause these alliances to lose more than their partnership party's vote value. Neither the Cumhur Alliance nor the Millet Alliance insist on not grasping this new era and stark reality in Turkish politics.

 

[AWP]

Shit is happening.
Twitter account for the next elections. Its main audience is Syrians with Turkish IDs and Arabic speakers.

https://twitter.com/secimtrk2023

the problem ?

a media account reporting the turkish elections in Arabic and soon this election will get bigger coverage from other media with many languages .

 

[Asena_great]

To add,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634553242490109961

Education Program of Hüda Par, who joined the Government's Alliance:

• The Qur'an, Arabic, hadith, catechism and siyer courses should be taught as a course starting from the first grade of primary education.

• Compulsory co-education should be abandoned, and families who wish should be able to enroll their children in boys or girls' schools at all levels of education, including higher education.

• Our old madrasahs should be restored and repaired, and the time spent in madrasah education should be counted as compulsory education.

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It's consoling to know that their voting rate is below 0.5%

watch this video plz its about Hezbollah terror organization

 

[GoatsMilk]

The way how Vecihi Hurkus was treated dont be surprised on why there is conspiracy theories about how the defence industry could be dismantled.

Conspiracy theories are so rife in Turkiye because of the national consciousness that came with collapse of the Ottoman Empire how the Turkish republic came out of its ashes at a huge cost.

Independance is valued a lot hence why theories that threaten it become rife among all circles in the Turkish republic.

conspiracy just means people getting together and conspiring against others.

The sultan conspired against the janissaries to remove their toxic influence over the state. The young Turks conspired against the sultan to remove a backward and outdated system. While all this was happening the British, French and Russians were all conspiring against the Ottomans supporting insurrection among the arabs, kurds, greeks, armenians etc. "lawrence of arabia is one example of British conspiracy against the Ottomans"

In state state politics men conspiring is as normal as it gets. You involve power and money, conspiracy is always somewhere in the background operating.

As we talk now certain states are conspiring against the Turks by supporting greek ambitions and pkk ambitions. When the greeks, egyptions gulf terrorists, french and other get together over the east med issue, cleary they are conspiring against Turkiye.

The problem you get with conspiracy is that many people just believe something for the sake of believing, they don't make the effort to find out if its true or not. This is how we end up with people like alex jones making hundreds of millions of dollars spewing plenty of bullshit that has the effect of destroying real truths.

Then to make matters worse the media has ran an agenda to make the word "conspiracy" dirty and disparaging. Lable something a "conspiracy theory" and automatically its discredited.

The destruction of Ghaddafis libya was a conspiracy conducted between the USA, France and the UK. The destruction of Iraq by the same players was another conspiracy. we could go on and on and on.

The fact the international media promotes the pkk marxist terrorists is a conspiracy against Turkiye.

 

[dBSPL]

watch this video plz its about Hezbollah terror organization

The most complex chains of events and relationships in Turkish recent history are about this. In the 1990s, especially when Tansu Çiller was Prime Minister, there is a lot of evidence that Hezbollah was a pawn against the PKK. That about some cells of this organization were trained directly by NATOist officers. This organization has been a pawn in the cleansing of many pkk-kck members and their lower level narco-criminal units. Pkk has not been able to kidnapping or raid, some of regions where they are active, or, some of the mass massacres to some aşirets(tribes) committed by the PKK are related to these issues. Many people have been killed or assassinated under suspicious circumstances in 90s, both those who were trying to do accurate journalism on these issues and those who were deliberately trying to slant them in one direction or another.

Even today, some part of village guards(I mean families/aşirets) are Hüdapar sympathizers or former/direct members. On the other hand, those released on judicial control conditions have disappeared, in the Hizbullahi Kurdi cases. There is no one left on active trial.

For one reason or another, more or less, hizbullahı-kurdi/hizbul-kontr was related to the counter-guerrilla strategies of the 90s to some extent, but in the same period when the pkk-kck started to came under significant US influence, this organization also spiraled out of control and was on the agenda with very brutal execution methods, and after the Beykoz raid, it was completely destroyed. Hüdapar is the successor of that organization, a structure whose rhetoric has softened, which does not engage in armed struggle but ideologically aims for the same goal.

The fact that a structure carrying this dirty legacy is still important in Turkish politics is the real problem. We are talking about a party with 0.1% of the vote. Both the Millet alliance and the Cumhur alliance were in elbow contact with this party, and in the end, when Hdp sided with the Millet alliance, Hüdapar 'openly' sided with the cumhur alliance. All this may indicate that even if there is no pattern of events like 90s, the relationship networks of politicians from those days continue to some extent.

 

[what]

Polls show Erdogan lags opposition by more than 10 points ahead of May vote

New polls show the Turkish opposition's presidential candidate, Kemal Kilicdaroglu, leading against President Tayyip Erdogan by more than 10 percentage points ahead of elections on May 14 seen by many as the most consequential vote in Turkey's history.

www.reuters.com

A poll published by Aksoy Research on Saturday and conducted on March 8 showed Kilicdaroglu, named as the opposition alliance candidate on March 6, leading against Erdogan with 55.6% support and 44.4%, respectively.

It showed the main opposition bloc garnering 44.1% of votes and the HDP at 10.3%. The AKP and its nationalist MHP allies earned 38.2% together.

A poll conducted on March 6-7 by Alf Research showed Kilicdaroglu at 55.1% and Erdogan on 44.9%. Kilicdaroglu's Republican People's Party (CHP) was the most popular with 31.8%, while the AK Party trailed with 31%.

The main opposition bloc earned 43.5% of votes, while the HDP got 11.3%, that poll showed. The AKP and the MHP together had 37.5% support.

Piar Research showed Kilicdaroglu winning with 57.1%, with Erdogan lagging on 42.9%. The CHP got 32.3%, the AKP 30.8% and the HDP 11.6%. The main opposition bloc got 46.4%, while the AKP and MHP earned 37.8%, the poll, published on March 10, showed.

ORC Research showed Kilicdaroglu ahead with 56.8% and Erdogan on 43.2%, according to a poll conducted on March 4-6, before Kilicdaroglu was officially announced as the opposition candidate.

 

[Xenon54]

Shit is happening.
Twitter account for the next elections. Its main audience is Syrians with Turkish IDs and Arabic speakers.

https://twitter.com/secimtrk2023

There is still capital punishment for treason related crimes in Turkey, just saying...

 

[Baryshx]

Akp and chp administration are doing dangerous things for this country. These are things they would never do in a normal European country or in America.

Comparing Hdp with Hüdapar, Hüdapar is a much more dangerous organization. It is both a separatist Kurdish party and a pro-sharia, pro-ISIS, pro-Hezbollah party. I wonder what Mhp and Vatan Party will say about this. Hüdapar is an organization that once killed a journalist from Vatan Party.