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[Deliorman]

First of all, no you arent!
You think you are at the rock bottom? Bro, just look at nations like Egypt and you will understand what rock-bottom means. Egypt and Turkey's economic conditions are too similar in many aspects with one of the major difference being that Egypt took debt while on the verge of bankruptcy while Turkey put Simsek in power to try and remedy what can be saved. I can bring many more nations as an example but lets not delve too deep into the issue

Moreover, who reads Etkili Haber at this day and age mate? We all know it is a die-hard CHP propaganda website just like with AKP's Yenisafak and other platforms

Stop reading those cancerous sites regardless of what your political affiliation is

And yes, I do believe that the CHP is incapable of saving the economy. I still remember when Ozel promised to create a ministry to protect LGBTQ rights..... like we are in an economic catastrophe and we are printing money like crazy so we must stop it, reduce costs, and stop those diyanet thieves but lets create another ministry and pour billions out of nowhere into it..... but surely, the ppl must believe we can fix the economy, loool

There are many instances like this but this is just one example..... To me, the current CHP is no different than the AKP but with CHP, there will be no brakes for the ppl to use against them. I already saw what happened with USA's democrats, Germany's Olaf Sholz, and France's Macron to know enough on what the CHP will do

Forget Egypt... just compare Turkey to Congo and you can happily continue living in the dream world that everything is absolutely fine, things are not as bad so no need to change anything.

ps If CHP comes to power and does a shitty job then they will lose the elections and someone else will come to their place. Politicians are there to serve the people and when they shit their pants you must change them... They are not some holly cows that are invincible or something, no matter how much some people want to be seen as living Gods.

 

[Lool]

Forget Egypt... just compare Turkey to Congo and you can happily continue living in the dream world that everything is absolutely fine, things are not as bad so no need to change anything.

Again, I commented on his term "rock-bottom" and his statement of "Turkey couldnt get any worse"
Pls read my post well and the next one as well. I never said that the economic situation was good

ps If CHP comes to power and does a shitty job then they will lose the elections and someone else will come to their place. Politicians are there to serve the people and when they shit their pants you must change them... They are not some holly cows that are invincible or something, no matter how much some people want to be seen as living Gods.

Yeah sure.....
Iam sure Olaf Sholz, Macron, and the Democrats all agree mate

 

[Kartal1]

President Erdogan, regarding the lieutenants who said the words 'We are Mustafa Kemal's Soldiers' after their graduation ceremony:

Who are you drawing these swords against? The few ignorant ones there will be purged.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1832404694641340465

They are drawing their swords against the enemies of the Republic!

You can even get 100 more tarikats on your side, you can even ask Allah for 10 more lifetimes and it still won't be enough to delete his legacy.

 

[Sanchez]

After 22 years as the leader and almost 50 years in politics, all he still has is his very on the line rule that he needs external support from ideological adversaries to keep it going. I'd think he'd use this next 5 years to solidify his legacy and be remembered as a leader that in the end brought the country together but nope, his will be one of false steps and mistakes. These kids he accused today of being traitors and possible coupists will still be in the army 30 years later, fighting against the groups he himself put in the army, not learning any lessons from the gulenists. He however will never be as influential in Turkish politics 30 years later like Atatürk will continue to be.

Sad man.

 

[CAN_TR]

They are drawing the swords against the enemies of the Turkish Republic and only those enemies should feel adressed.

Atatürkün mirasindan rahatsiz olmus, zavalli...

 

[Lool]

Absolute destruction for the AKP

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1832294364715909392

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Meanwhile, Erdoğan said "Hamas is not only defending Gaza, but also Türkiye".

We have a leader who is threatening our own soldiers, but also claims that a terror group is protecting our nation. I don't know what to say anymore.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1832435676123746574

 

[somegoodusername]

President Erdogan, regarding the lieutenants who said the words 'We are Mustafa Kemal's Soldiers' after their graduation ceremony:

Who are you drawing these swords against? The few ignorant ones there will be purged.

But I thought, even though all other state institutions were restructured ideologically and filled with partisan loyalists, somehow the same group that transformed those institutions left the state's security organizations untouched, preserving them as the Weberian ideal of the state. Wow, I'm shocked. I never thought this could happen.

 

[somegoodusername]

Absolute destruction for the AKP

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1832294364715909392

AKP+MHP+YRP is 43,9. When Özgür Özel declares himself as the candidate küskün AKP voters would realigning with the party, Reis would open the valves for cheap credit before the election. He would get 48% on the first round, 51% on the second round. Why do you think he put Mehmet Şimşek in charge of economy and didn't do populist economic spending before the 2024 elections? So they are filling the coffers for the 2028 election.

 

[Lool]

Meanwhile, Erdoğan said "Hamas is not only defending Gaza, but also Türkiye".

We have a leader who is threatening our own soldiers, but also claims that a terror group is protecting our nation. I don't know what to say anymore.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1832435676123746574

As I said before, the problem with these third rate sites is that they only take a single sentence from the whole speech and twist it to suit their demands/agenda. That is why most opposition and hardcore AKP sites are normally meant to be ignored

His full statement was: "Israel has land claims along several nations, one of which is Turkey! The moment they finish with Palestine, they will turn towards Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and then Turkey. Therefore, with Hamas's existence, they are literally protecting all the other nation" (This isnt the exact wording but the essence of it)

Saddam said the same words, Qhaddafi said the same words, and even Saddat said the same words before. Obviously, all of them were murdered in the end. The fact that Erdogan said these words prove that even he knows just how much of a danger Israel really is.

Note: have been saying the same words in the Turkic organisation threads about 6 days ago

 

[RMZN]

As I said before, the problem with these third rate sites is that they only take a single sentence from the whole speech and twist it to suit their demands/agenda. That is why most opposition and hardcore AKP sites are normally meant to be ignored

His full statement was: "Israel has land claims along several nations, one of which is Turkey! The moment they finish with Palestine, they will turn towards Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and then Turkey. Therefore, with Hamas's existence, they are literally protecting all the other nation" (This isnt the exact wording but the essence of it)

Saddam said the same words, Qhaddafi said the same words, and even Saddat said the same words before. Obviously, all of them were murdered in the end. The fact that Erdogan said these words prove that even he knows just how much of a danger Israel really is.

Note: have been saying the same words in the Turkic organisation threads about 6 days ago

Israel doesnt even have the population to go on any expansion adventures beyond the land they hold now. Not that they even have to, they are surrounded by instable and weak neighbours. Hamas cant even protect their own people, they only persits thanks to their tunnel network, and thats really all they do. Trying their best to persist, whilst israel massacres and drives away the civilian population. So his words are nothing more than cheap islamist fearmongering meant for the ears of gullible people that like to blame israel for everything. Last time I checked it wasnt israel that ran the Turkish economy to the ground and its not israel that felt attacked by the words of Turkish Lieutenants. And those who feel attacked by soldiers expressing their loyalty to their own nation are the real threat, not israel.

 

[Afif]

Saddam said the same words, Qhaddafi said the same words, and even Saddat said the same words before. Obviously, all of them were murdered in the end. The fact that Erdogan said these words prove that even he knows just how much of a danger Israel really is.

Bruh, the conspiratorial insinuation is wild here.

 

[YeşilVatan]

Israel is a deeply troubled state, not because they have a world-ruling secret Jewish cabal behind them, because their demographics are going to explode some day and they have nukes. Let me repeat again; They have NUKES. This is a serious issue. We don't need to inject conspiracy theories into the discussion.

• Their ultra conservative population is growing, which means more extreme jingoism
• Muslim population is growing, also more instability
• Moderate and liberal Jewish population is plummeting, which means economic downturn because they actually produce high-value stuff

Jews will not conquer Gaziantep. The worst case scenario would be an attempt to mount an air campaign to support kurdish seperatism. Even that is still way outside the bounds of what is possible, for now.

I wish our leaders refrained from polluting the discussion with these wild conspiracy theories, and focused on the real issue.

 

[Lool]

Israel doesnt even have the population to go on any expansion adventures beyond the land they hold now. Not that they even have to, they are surrounded by instable and weak neighbours. Hamas cant even protect their own people, they only persits thanks to their tunnel network, and thats really all they do. Trying their best to persist, whilst israel massacres and drives away the civilian population. So his words are nothing more than cheap islamist fearmongering meant for the ears of gullible people that like to blame israel for everything. Last time I checked it wasnt israel that ran the Turkish economy to the ground and its not israel that felt attacked by the words of Turkish Lieutenants. And those who feel attacked by soldiers expressing their loyalty to their own nation are the real threat, not israel.

Why are we repeating the same baseless arguments again and again

When Saddam threatened Israel and carried out missile strikes, did Israel stand up against Iraq directly? Hell no! Israel commanded their slaves, the US, to embark on a war against Iraq and pummel it into the ground. Till this day, after more than 10 years, Iraq is still a failed state

When Israel attacked Iran with missiles that lead to the death of Ismail Haniyeh, Iran promised severe retaliation; what do you think Israel did to protect itself? They moved 1/3 of the entire US navy within a week to protect Israeli lands

When the day come, and Israel set its sights on Turkey, it wont be the jews doing the fighting but rather a coalition of hundreds of thousands of US slaves, European slaves, and Arab slaves. At that time, no one will stand with Turkey. Not the cowardly turkic nations, not the Russians, or Chinese

That is why Turkey should do its best to prevent such scenario from happening and that is why Erdogan is trying to form some sort of an alliance so that such nations within Israel's radar can protect each other


As for the lieutenant issue, I believe that Erdo screwed up but again, I dont have as much info regarding the incident to even have a say in the matter. My sole point was that Erdo's foreign policy regarding Israel is spot on since these fanatics are a threat


Hell man, you dont even need to wait. The jews already stole historical artifacts from Hatay while Turkey was suffering from the aftermath of the earthquake (source isnt that trustworthy though so be aware)

Translation:
An investigation has been launched into the Zionist Chabat organization for stealing priceless historical artifacts from Hatay, where they came under the pretext of helping during the disaster of the century.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1832356541032185985

 

[Lool]

Israel is a deeply troubled state, not because they have a world-ruling secret Jewish cabal behind them, because their demographics are going to explode some day and they have nukes. Let me repeat again; They have NUKES. This is a serious issue. We don't need to inject conspiracy theories into the discussion.

• Their ultra conservative population is growing, which means more extreme jingoism
• Muslim population is growing, also more instability
• Moderate and liberal Jewish population is plummeting, which means economic downturn because they actually produce high-value stuff

Jews will not conquer Gaziantep. The worst case scenario would be an attempt to mount an air campaign to support kurdish seperatism. Even that is still way outside the bounds of what is possible, for now.

I wish our leaders refrained from polluting the discussion with these wild conspiracy theories, and focused on the real issue.

Thx man
I even forgot to mention that they have nukes as well

But as I said, it wont be the jews who attack Turkey directly but rather a coalition of american and european armies just like with saddam. The jews just like with saddam, will sit on the beach donning their swimsuits and bikkinis while the Western slaves do the job

 

[I_Love_F16]

Why are we repeating the same baseless arguments again and again

When Saddam threatened Israel and carried out missile strikes, did Israel stand up against Iraq directly? Hell no! Israel commanded their slaves, the US, to embark on a war against Iraq and pummel it into the ground. Till this day, after more than 10 years, Iraq is still a failed state

When Israel attacked Iran with missiles that lead to the death of Ismail Haniyeh, Iran promised severe retaliation; what do you think Israel did to protect itself? They moved 1/3 of the entire US navy within a week to protect Israeli lands

When the day come, and Israel set its sights on Turkey, it wont be the jews doing the fighting but rather a coalition of hundreds of thousands of US slaves, European slaves, and Arab slaves. At that time, no one will stand with Turkey. Not the cowardly turkic nations, not the Russians, or Chinese

That is why Turkey should do its best to prevent such scenario from happening and that is why Erdogan is trying to form some sort of an alliance so that such nations within Israel's radar can protect each other


As for the lieutenant issue, I believe that Erdo screwed up but again, I dont have as much info regarding the incident to even have a say in the matter. My sole point was that Erdo's foreign policy regarding Israel is spot on since these fanatics are a threat


Hell man, you dont even need to wait. The jews already stole historical artifacts from Hatay while Turkey was suffering from the aftermath of the earthquake (source isnt that trustworthy though so be aware)

Translation:
An investigation has been launched into the Zionist Chabat organization for stealing priceless historical artifacts from Hatay, where they came under the pretext of helping during the disaster of the century.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1832356541032185985

The idea that a coalition of the US and some European countries would attack another NATO country with a population of roughly 90 million people is completely delusional. Hell, I would even call that a hallucination.

 

[YeşilVatan]

The idea that a coalition of the US and some European countries would attack another NATO country with a population of roughly 90 million people is completely delusional. Hell, I would even call that a hallucination.

I think certain interest groups in western countries actively work towards another Sevres. This seems far away for now, but we are closer to it than 2004. They are still laying the foundation for it.

The most logical method they would use:

• Seize a moment of crisis (may be Aegean dispute, Syria, Israel or anything they will come up with. They invaded Iraq on false premises, nothing is beneath them)
• Declare a no-fly zone and use Kurdish seperatists to gain ground. (Accompanied with strategic bombing of western Turkey)
• Force a fait accompli (all international organizations serve them anyways.)

The ultimate end-point is a weak Turkey which is essentially a rump state, and a kurdish vassal that would enable a western power to dominate middle east for another century. All anti-Turkish activities of various interest groups converge on this desired end result. From weapons embargos to smear campaigns, NGO 5th columns to illegal migrant waves, everthing leads up to this.

Turkish decision makers are either blissfully ignorant, woefully incompetent or outright treacherous. We need to wake up to reality and take precautions, not half-measures. Entire state structure should work towards defeating this project. This is our first priority. If we can position ourselves to be able to win against this colossal one-tooth monstrosity of greed, hubris and spite, anything else is child's play (i.e. if US can't partition Turkey no one can).

 

[TheInsider]

It will be kinda fun seeing the CHP back in office and repeating the cycle all over again

As much as I hate the CHP and think they will screw Turkey even more, But the AKP deserved it tbh; Erdogan's economic program from 2021 will be his downfall. He shouldnt have fired Agbal in the first place

Absolute destruction for the AKP

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1832294364715909392

The most serious problem of AKP is a slow one. Turkish voter base is changing especially the AKP voter base. Here is a recent poll about voter bases of political parties.

The Turkish voter base is becoming less religious and less conservative.

Political leaning of youth. 2022 vs 2024. Big losses for Islamists and conservatives.

 

[YeşilVatan]

The most serious problem of AKP is a slow one. Turkish voter base is changing especially the AKP voter base. Here is a recent poll about voter bases of political parties.

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Can I get a source on that please? So I may post it to another place.

 

[TheInsider]

Can I get a source on that please? So I may post it to another place.

Konda.

https://konda.com.tr/uploads/genclerin-politik-tercihleri-arastirmasi-2024-64df8822aead837953c985b7a856bc911a53b8524850b4725246f7b92b74b216.pdf