TR Propulsion Systems

Agha Sher

Experienced member
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
2,755
Reactions
11 9,303
Nation of residence
Denmark
Nation of origin
Afghanistan
congrats for the TF-6000 achievement

can someone please tell us on which turkish or foreign platforms this engine will be used ?

MIUS and TAI stealth UAV (not yet revealed) for sure. Rest remains unknown.
 

Zafer

Experienced member
Messages
4,683
Reactions
7 7,389
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
TF6000 can be used in single and twin configurations which will allow for a multitude of possible platforms including marine platforms with its derivatives. Other than single and twin or possibly triplet configurations which civilian planes support there is also possibilities that the same engine can have different power yields with modifications to achieve different optimization goals like fuel economy, extreme power or a balanced power and economy varieties.
 
Last edited:

Trakya_forever

Committed member
Messages
217
Reactions
4 590
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Well done. However, I think it needs 4-5 more years for serial production. Eliminate Ukraine. We need a new producer for KIZILELMA. Do you have a candidate?
 

Zafer

Experienced member
Messages
4,683
Reactions
7 7,389
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
It will be a test for TEI to pull this TF6000 off nicely to be trusted with more work for the Özgün engine of TFX.
 

Cabatli_TR

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
5,360
Reactions
81 45,455
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
After that, I think TEI will reveal the TS-3000 turboshaft engines as well.

Besides, TEI will reach higher thrust ratios by modifying TF6000's core. With these developments, Turkey will also have a powerful marine engine and turboprop family.
 

Siper>MMU

Contributor
Messages
542
Reactions
2 1,191
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
I am glad TEI has finally started development of a marine engine now. BMC Power is also working on the diesel marine section. in 2030s we will have completely indigenous propulsion systems.
 

Zafer

Experienced member
Messages
4,683
Reactions
7 7,389
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
TF6000 is likely to be the engine that will take Kızılelma to supersonic speeds with its afterburner capabilities.
 

Combat-Master

Baklava Consumer
Moderator
Messages
3,667
Reactions
15 25,474
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
This could also power a twin engine Hürjet.

If they could squeeze out more thrust, extra 500lbf dry and 1,000lbf wet per engine then it would be a comparable replacement to a single F404, that is if TF6000 will weigh less than 700kg each
 
Last edited:

Agha Sher

Experienced member
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
2,755
Reactions
11 9,303
Nation of residence
Denmark
Nation of origin
Afghanistan
Can we make a commercial airliner engine from this in the future?

The soviet Yak-40 used three AI-25 (each 3300 lbf thrust). I guess two TF-6000 could power a commercial aircraft 50% larger i.e. 50-55 passengers (assuming lighter materials).

1654854913002.png


E.g. something like the CRJ200 should be possible

1654858534384.png
 
Last edited:

Yasar_TR

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
3,246
Reactions
141 16,261
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
Realistically, how many years before we see it powering MIUS and TAIs stealth drone?

Also, kinda a rookie question, is lbs and lbf interchangeable? AI-222-25 has a thrust of 5500lbf, will TF-6000 be more powerful than the AI-222-25?

Lastly, any info on thrust to weight ratio?
There is no lbs. It is lbf (pound force is the unit for thrust). To shorten it some may use pounds thrust in plural. Hence lbs. But not correct nomenclature.
6000lbf dry thrust and 10000lbf with afterburners is probably a bit more powerful than the AI-225-25 which is a near 6000lbf dry thrust and 9200 with afterburner thrust class engine.
If we had designed the Hurjet as a twin engined plane it would have more thrust with two of these.
Now we can seriously and confidently say TEI could produce a indigenous engine for TFX.
 
Last edited:

Zafer

Experienced member
Messages
4,683
Reactions
7 7,389
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Realization of the TFX engine can pave the way to a high bypass turbofan engine that can be used on a commercial airliner. The material science knowhow will be there and it will be a matter of time to make such engines if there really is a market opportunity.
 
Last edited:

Lool

Experienced member
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
2,918
Reactions
13 5,030
Nation of residence
Albania
Nation of origin
Albania
After that, I think TEI will reveal the TS-3000 turboshaft engines as well.

Besides, TEI will reach higher thrust ratios by modifying TF6000's core. With these developments, Turkey will also have a powerful marine engine and turboprop family.
Isnt the TF-6000 a turbofan (turbojet) engine? Wouldnt converting that to a marine engine be extremely ineffecient? As far as I know, most of the current ships use massive diesel engines till this day for a reason right?
 
Top Bottom