TR Sensors and Detector Programs

[Afif]

Those are slightly two different Band though. The higher the frequency the shorter the range afaik. Numbers of tracks is good for chenk but I am a bit disappointed with fighter detection range being 160km only. (Chances are, against a 1m RCS target. I expected 250-300km detection range)

 

[Radko]

Those are slightly two different Band though. The higher the frequency the shorter the range afaik. Numbers of tracks is good for chenk but I am a bit disappointed with fighter detection range being 160km only. (Chances are, against a 1m RCS target. I expected 250-300km detection range)

160km in volume search is not bad. It would be bad if it is 160km in dedicated mode, which we dont know right now

 

[Radko]

Then there is something like SURALP, which uses the same architecture as Cenk-S but is a C-RAM radar. Either Cenk has much greater performance or SURALP doesnt really offer much detection range against R-A-M

 

[Rodeo]

ASELSAN CEO Ahmet AKYOL:

- The number of countries received CATS camera has exceeded 10.

- More than 178 CATS camera has been delivered.

- ASELFLIR-500 is in serial production and will be delivered soon.

- ASELFLIR-600 to fly this year.

- Work continues on TOYGUN, which will serve KAAN, KIZILELMA and ANKA-3.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1759488930867445899

 

[Samba]

ASELSAN CEO Ahmet AKYOL:


- ASELFLIR-500 is in serial production and will be delivered soon.

The is the one I like most. To have something in production is a great achievement. Big kudos.

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762457484936040643

According to Aselsan Chief Ahmet Akyol ERALP has detectet the Space Station ISS were Alper Gezeravci made his Mission.

 

[zio]

murad aesa

 

[Rodeo]

murad aesa

source:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762882076590620731

 

[Huelague]

source:

Your own video clip
Look where H. Gorgun touched on F-16, after inspecting the unknown radar.

 

[Afif]

source:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762882076590620731

@TheInsider does MURAD has Notch antenna or slotted antenna?

 

[TheInsider]

@TheInsider does MURAD has Notch antenna or slotted antenna?

Do you mean notch or patch? Because the notch antenna is a slot antenna. Anyway, MURAD has a notch antenna.

 

[Afif]

Do you mean notch or patch? Because the notch antenna is a slot antenna. Anyway, MURAD has a notch antenna.

TSA = Notch Antenna.

 

[TheInsider]

View attachment 66122

TSA = Notch Antenna.

Yeah Tapered SLOTTED Antenna TSA for short.

In Academia people prefer to call it the Vivaldi antenna.

 

[Afif]

Yeah Tapered SLOTTED Antenna TSA for short.

In Academia people prefer to call it the Vivaldi antenna.

Any unofficial info/rumor regarding MURAD's performance perimeter? Range?

 

[TheInsider]

Any unofficial info/rumor regarding MURAD's performance perimeter? Range?

This is a difficult question to answer. Given ranges are always rough figures there are so many parameters that affect radar range like;

Radar frequency: Lower the frequency longer the range and X-band covers 8-12GHz and the difference between 8 and 12 is big.
Pulse repetition frequency: Higher is better again makes a big difference
Peak power: At least we know the peak power of Murad (30w per module x1152 module)
Pulse width: Longer pulse width provides better range at the expense of resolution (you lose the ability to detect objects flying in tight formation separately and detect them as a single object)
Target and fighter altitude
Radar scan sector: It means how big is the area/volume you are scanning. Smaller volume=better range
Scan Time: How long the radar will scan per beam
Weather conditions

 

[Afif]

This is a difficult question to answer. Given ranges are always rough figures there are so many parameters that affect radar range like;

Radar frequency: Lower the frequency longer the range and X-band covers 8-12GHz and the difference between 8 and 12 is big.
Pulse repetition frequency: Higher is better again makes a big difference
Peak power: At least we know the peak power of Murad (30w per module x1152 module)
Pulse width: Longer pulse width provides better range at the expense of resolution (you lose the ability to detect objects flying in tight formation separately and detect them as a single object)
Target and fighter altitude
Radar scan sector: It means how big is the area/volume you are scanning. Smaller volume=better range
Scan Time: How long the radar will scan per beam
Weather conditions

Yes I know all of these. But still, they usually give a number. Let's say, 150km detection range against 1m² RCS target or something like that.

 

[blackjack]

200 km menzile sahip: Önce HÜRJET'te sonra KAAN'da kullanılacak!

Haber 7 - TUSAŞ'ın geliştirdiği HÜRJET uçağı, ASELSAN tarafından üretilen 200 km menzili olan MURAD AESA radarı ile donatılacak. Radar HÜRJET'ten sonra MMU KAAN'da kullanılacak.

www.haber7.com

It has a range of 200 km: It will be used first in HÜRJET and then in KAAN!​

The HÜRJET aircraft developed by TAI will be equipped with the MURAD AESA radar with a range of 200 km produced by ASELSAN. The radar will be used in MMU KAAN after HÜRJET.​

ENTRANCE 02.09.2023 15:30UPDATE 02.09.2023 16:23


The HÜRJET aircraft, developed by Turkish Aerospace Industries TAI, will have the MURAD AESA radar developed by ASELSAN.
The radar, which is still under development, is developed by ASELSAN and will be used in both the F-16 (ÖZGÜR Project) and AKINCI UCAV. The next user of the radar will be KAAN MMU.
The radar, which has a total range of 200 kilometers, will be an important step for the Turkish Defense Industry in this respect.

"A HUGE RADAR WILL COME TO HÜRJET"
In his previous interviews, TAI General Manager Temel Kotil said, "A huge radar will come to HÜRJET. As for it, it will be a small F-16 in terms of capability. We will install the ASELSAN radar that sees 200 km on HÜRJET. Its nose is made accordingly, so it will be the same as the F-16 radar. We will place our missiles on it."

200kms? what do Turks like to use as a reference point for aerial targets on previous radar brochures? 1m2, 3m2, 5m2?

 

[Merzifonlu]

200kms? what do Turks like to use as a reference point for aerial targets on previous radar brochures? 1m2, 3m2, 5m2?

Do not take the media in Turkey and especially the pro-government media seriously. Pay attention to official statements.

 

[Hepdert]

Aselsan MURAD AESA

https://x.com/MiddleastN/status/1763143371265028287?s=20

 

[Afif]

200 km menzile sahip: Önce HÜRJET'te sonra KAAN'da kullanılacak!

Haber 7 - TUSAŞ'ın geliştirdiği HÜRJET uçağı, ASELSAN tarafından üretilen 200 km menzili olan MURAD AESA radarı ile donatılacak. Radar HÜRJET'ten sonra MMU KAAN'da kullanılacak.

www.haber7.com

It has a range of 200 km: It will be used first in HÜRJET and then in KAAN!​

The HÜRJET aircraft developed by TAI will be equipped with the MURAD AESA radar with a range of 200 km produced by ASELSAN. The radar will be used in MMU KAAN after HÜRJET.​

ENTRANCE 02.09.2023 15:30UPDATE 02.09.2023 16:23


The HÜRJET aircraft, developed by Turkish Aerospace Industries TAI, will have the MURAD AESA radar developed by ASELSAN.
The radar, which is still under development, is developed by ASELSAN and will be used in both the F-16 (ÖZGÜR Project) and AKINCI UCAV. The next user of the radar will be KAAN MMU.
The radar, which has a total range of 200 kilometers, will be an important step for the Turkish Defense Industry in this respect.

"A HUGE RADAR WILL COME TO HÜRJET"
In his previous interviews, TAI General Manager Temel Kotil said, "A huge radar will come to HÜRJET. As for it, it will be a small F-16 in terms of capability. We will install the ASELSAN radar that sees 200 km on HÜRJET. Its nose is made accordingly, so it will be the same as the F-16 radar. We will place our missiles on it."

200kms? what do Turks like to use as a reference point for aerial targets on previous radar brochures? 1m2, 3m2, 5m2?

Western companies usually uses 1m² RCS target as their range reference. But it could be 3m² or even 5m² as a fighter size target. (We can only speculate from his statement)
@TheInsider