TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[dBSPL]

Mr Kotil: "We're working on 6th generation aircraft"

All the things that have been said in the last two years about the MMU concept and doctrinal approaches, which would take hours to collect together again, but I will not repeat them as we all follow the thread closely: The framework that the MMU's whole concept wants to achieve is what the Europeans are already marketing as the 6th generation. In the 2030s, block by block, each of these capacities will be brought into the programme.

However, my understanding is that Kotil here also refers to the next stage after KAAN. Maybe a decade or so late, but the period when we enter the combat aviation indigenously, where major changes are taking place, will probably enable us to minimise decades of disadvantage in terms of experience, technical infrastructure and labour force. ANKA-3 is the difficult phase, KAAN is the difficult phase, but when we move on to their successors, there will be an extraordinary experience that we can build on.

 

[Strong AI]

Mr Kotil: "We're working on 6th generation aircraft"

Could be another reason for the ANKA-III programme, tailless design, etc.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr. Kotil: "When KAAN shows performances that we target, it will be best aircraft in Europe"

 

[CAN_TR]

The question is, is it a new project or will MMU evolve slowly to a 6th Gen with every new Block.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

The question is, is it a new project or will MMU evolve slowly to a 6th Gen with every new Block.

When we look at 6th generation concept of UK, we can see that there are many design similarities with KAAN. That's why I think KAAN will be evolved into a 6th generation aircraft with future blocks.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Kotil: "We have been developing engine (Tf35K) for 2 years. We will integrate it to KAAN in 2028. It will take a few years for qualification. The TF35K will have Ceramic technology but F110 does not. It will be a very powerful engine. There is also Kale group on the TEI axis (partner for Tf35K project (?))"

 

[dBSPL]

Kotil: Building a fighter jet engine is accepted to take 10 years under today's peace conditions. However, during the US-Soviet cold war period (i.e. a period of high tension with the risk of war), this period was 5 years. You don't sleep, you do it, it is possible.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Kotil: "6th generation aircraft will be unmanned (while telling the features of Anka-3)"

 

[Oublious]

Although it does not overlap one by one exactly, I think there will be a main backbone as follows

F-22, F-35 - MMU KAAN programme
Gripen NG like 4++ light combat jet - Hurjet Naval

??? - KIZILELMA
MQ-25, MQ-20 etc.- ANKA-3 A/B/C

MQ-4, RQ-4 etc - ANKA-II(?), AKINCI(?)
Reaper / Predator - ANKA-I , ANKA-AKSUNGUR, KIZILELMA
GA Mojave - TB-3

ther is no single country except USA with different platforms like us...

 

[MADDOG]

As per the CEO KAAN is capable of carrying 10 tonnes of payload INTERNALLY

 

[BordoEnes]

When we look at 6th generation concept of UK, we can see that there are many design similarities with KAAN. That's why I think KAAN will be evolved into a 6th generation aircraft with future blocks.

What is a distinguishable feature and capability of a 6th generation aircrafts? What sets it apart from a 5th generation?

 

[MADDOG]

TF-X early assembly phase

Hurjet Iron Bırd

 

[Afif]

As per the CEO KAAN is capable of carrying 10 tonnes of payload INTERNALLY

Nice, it is even 500-700kg more than F-22. Makes sense though, KHAAN is bigger.

 

[MADDOG]

Nice, it is even 500-700kg more than F-22. Makes sense though, KHAAN is bigger.

I don't think that's what he really meant btw.

 

[Afif]

I don't think that's what he really meant btw.

What did he mean then?

 

[Oublious]

Mişon impossible.

Temel Kotil

 

[Bmx98]

Mişon impossible.

Temel Kotil

He should be declared a national hero of Turkiye along with Ismail Demir and the venerable Mahmut F. Aksit the three horsemen of Turkish defence industry.

 

[Rodeo]

As per the CEO KAAN is capable of carrying 10 tonnes of payload INTERNALLY

How can it carry 10 tons payload when the F15 the bomb truck with the same engines can carry max 7300 kg. And he said that the 10 tons capacity for IWBs?

There must be a misunderstanding.

 

[TheInsider]

How can it carry 10 tons payload when the F15 the bomb truck with the same engines can carry max 7300 kg. And he said that the 10 tons capacity for IWBs?

There must be a misunderstanding.

If he is talking about internal load then It should include fuel and integrated payload.
Externally it can carry more than an F-15 as it is bigger and will have more powerful engines.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Mr Kotil: "We're working on 6th generation aircraft"

Since one of the most significant features of a 6th gen fighter is the absence of vertical tails, of course as far as anybody knows because the indicators of this generation are not quite set yet, Turkish Aerospace with its gained experiences from both MMU and Anka III, I believe they will show the world a miracle. If they started working on a 6th gen fighter, I won't be surprised if they were the first to roll out one and build the prototype, earlier than the giants who have started years ago.
So far TA has shown the world what they're capable of. Imagine that after another decade of gleaned knowledge.

Go TA!