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Mr Kotil: "We're working on 6th generation aircraft"
Since one of the most significant features of a 6th gen fighter is the absence of vertical tails, of course as far as anybody knows because the indicators of this generation are not quite set yet, Turkish Aerospace with its gained experiences from both MMU and Anka III, I believe they will show the world a miracle. If they started working on a 6th gen fighter, I won't be surprised if they were the first to roll out one and build the prototype, earlier than the giants who have started years ago.
So far TA has shown the world what they're capable of. Imagine that after another decade of gleaned knowledge.

Go TA!
 
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Once we have a Tf35000 on the bench or on KAAN, we won't be facing any engine embargoes, imo.
I agree to a point. But never underestimate West’s hold on their technological prowess. They will never like to relinquish what they have, that easily. They will do their best to hamper our engine development pursuits.
We need a family of engines developed from TF6000/10000 that will power Hurjet and KAAN in the form of TF20000 and TF35000, as well as a range of turboshafts like TS1400, TS2000 and TS3000.
Our fight in engine manufacturing will not end there. We will have to produce adaptive cycle version of these turbofan engines that will use new technologies such as Ceramic Matrix Composites. That is the natural processes that will come with innovation.
 

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Since one of the most significant features of a 6th gen fighter is the absence of vertical tails, of course as far as anybody knows because the indicators of this generation are not quite set yet, Turkish Aerospace with its gained experiences from both MMU and Anka III, I believe they will show the world a miracle. If they started working on a 6th gen fighter, I won't be surprised if they were the first to roll out one and build the prototype, earlier than the giants who have started years ago.
So far TA has shown the world what they're capable of. Imagine that after another decade of gleaned knowledge.

Go TA!
What will be the difference between a 5. and 6. generation fighter jet?
 

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US has flown 6th gen demonstrator in 2020 so I think that Lockheed is still very ahead of everyone.

i could see China and Turkey behind slightly but ahead of Russia and Europe depending on how cohesive their programs are.
 
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US has flown 6th gen demonstrator in 2020 so I think that Lockheed is still very ahead of everyone.

i could see China and Turkey behind slightly but ahead of Russia and Europe depending on how cohesive their programs are.
That s enough,just 5years before,no one think Turkiye Fighter jet can even match Taiwan or Japanese.

10 years before almost everyone guess Japanese would achieve 5 th jet and better than Chinese one within 10 years
 
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What will be the difference between a 5. and 6. generation fighter jet?
Check out my post on
page 89 post#1761

Additionally stealth parameters will be much improved.
Due to extensive and effective use of directed energy weapons, very large power generation will be a prerequisite.
 
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The second prototype is also coming out faster than expected. There is good progress with part production and CDR.
I will be asking about these, probably in 2-3 weeks. I heard some good stuff about design phase but not much info about production of the second prototype.
 

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The second prototype is also coming out faster than expected. There is good progress with part production and CDR.

Detail parts production started earlier than expected. Pre-CDR pretty much. If the previously given assembly dates are to be believed, then it might be possible for us to see some parts of the P1 soon. Expect changes to P1's airframe design.
 

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All this talk about Kaan being turned into a 6th gen fighter goes back to what I have been saying about 6th gen just being a more mature 5th gen fighter and not an actual generation of its own.

Do any of you believe that one of the future prototypes will go in the X-44 MANTA direction?

I believe that the X-44 could be used as an easy way to transition to an even more low-observable fighter that is good against S and X bands, especially since its design was derived from the F22.
 

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All this talk about Kaan being turned into a 6th gen fighter goes back to what I have been saying about 6th gen just being a more mature 5th gen fighter and not an actual generation of its own.

Do any of you believe that one of the future prototypes will go in the X-44 MANTA direction?

I believe that the X-44 could be used as an easy way to transition to an even more low-observable fighter that is good against S and X bands, especially since its design was derived from the F22.
The only major design feature that defines 6th gen is the absence of the vertical stabilizer aka the rudder. We can easily predict that it comes with a remarkable penalty to maneuverability. Considering improvements in radar technology it can be predictable that before too long no plane will fly undetected near a conflict zone. In this case better meneuverability and faster speed will probably be more valuable than absolute stealth. You've got a point.
 
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