TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

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4.5th gen KFX is an alternative to the 4.5th gen needs of Indonesia. It is not a competitor against Kaan. 5th gen KFX, KFX block 3, or whatever the name is, is a backup plan for KAAN. The main target of Indonesia for their 5th generation fighter needs is Kaan. but every smart nation, unlike us, reduces the risks associated with defense acquisition.
 

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TBF the F16 Deal stalling is more on us than the americans. If we wanted the deal would be finalized tomorrow.
True! US sources like pentagon and LM are a bit disappointed that we are dragging our feet regarding the f16 programme. May be we are too hopeful about returning back to f35 project. US sources say that they have gone out of their way and got the 23 billion dollar f16 and V70 upgrade programme through the approval system. But only for the Turks to cancel most of it and slowing down the production of 40 F16 planes.



@alfonsvlora , you should investigate in detail before blaming a member unjustly in an ad hominem manner, which is against forum rules too.

Also below LM article is interesting about the f16 partnership with Türkiye.

 
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Also below LM article is interesting about the f16 partnership with Türkiy.


You are too late.

Was this shared before?

F-16: Advancing the Future of Türkiye’s Air Defense

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You are too late.
Bro, you have few things wrong in the way you look at things.
You don’t read the content in its entirety. But you are more interested in finding mistakes in what people post.
If you read the content of the whole post in detail, you would have realised that the bottom article is very relevant to the above part in it’s context.
You need to get your act together and concentrate on your posts rather than focusing on finding errors in others’.
This is my last warning to you.
 
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TUSAS CEO Mehmet Demiroglu:
I can say that KAAN's stealth level will be at the same level as F35 or better. F35 RCS (Radar Cross Section) value, 0.001 m² or the size of a golf ball.
 

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TUSAS CEO Mehmet Demiroglu:
I can say that KAAN's stealth level will be at the same level as F35 or better. F35 RCS (Radar Cross Section) value, 0.001 m² or the size of a golf ball.

Source please.

I mean RCS of F-22 is lower than RCS of F-35 and KAAN looks more like F-22, so it makes sense.
 

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Source please.

I mean RCS of F-22 is lower than RCS of F-35 and KAAN looks more like F-22, so it makes sense.

According to USAF officials, F-35 is more stealthy than F-22. It has been posted in the forum before in details.
 

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According to USAF officials, F-35 is more stealthy than F-22. It has been posted in the forum before in details.

Can you please quote those posts? I couldn't find them.
Found it
 
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"Turkish Aerospace "very close" to announcing second international customer for KAAN after Indonesia - CEO at Paris Air Show. Says issues such as F-35 'kill switch' debate, availability, price, tech transfer, MRO, etc all play to KAAN's strengths"

 

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"Turkish Aerospace "very close" to announcing second international customer for KAAN after Indonesia - CEO at Paris Air Show. Says issues such as F-35 'kill switch' debate, availability, price, tech transfer, MRO, etc all play to KAAN's strengths"


After Indonesia, two more Gulf countries are interested in KAAN

✈️ TUSAS (@TUSAS_TR) General Manager Mehmet Demiroglu (@dr_mdemiroglu):

"The President of Indonesia had expressed his wish to join KAAN during his visit to Turkey. Last month, we paid a visit to Indonesia with our president Prof. Haluk Görgün. Certain decisions were taken there, and as a result of those decisions, Indodefence was asked to prepare a draft agreement. We are now working on the details. Here, we have embarked on a journey to deliver 48 of our KAANs to Indonesia with our own engine.

This is a long journey, and we still have a long way to go, but we are very happy and very joyful. Because our own fifth generation platform will hopefully be delivered to the air forces of a friendly and allied country within the scope of this project. We will continue to work with our friends. Considering that there are 48 of them and 12 optional ones, the number can increase to 60. This is one of the biggest deals in the history of the Republic. Perhaps we can say that it is the biggest one so far. From this point of view, it is a great success for both our country and TAI.

We cannot name the country for now because it is early, but at least 2 of the countries from the Gulf region, which are also heard in the public, are interested in KAAN. Our work with one of them is very advanced. Hopefully, we are waiting to hear good news from them within this year, and we are also working on that, I can say that much. We are also working on a contract for the Turkish Air Force, hopefully at the next defense industry executive committee."

 

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It make sense. It's either a Chinese solution or the Turkish one. Given how Israel is behaving in the region.
 

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All of this is just interest and nothing more. tbh it's too soon to tell anything. even if Türkiye does the whole work and customers appear, our politicians would be willing to sell the whole R&D for a candy. Because that's how bad the economy is.

It's fine to go look for customers, but I don't see any value in announcing them as customers. everything is just a "potential". Every nation is a potential customer., including the US.
 

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Just buying KAAN or also join the development?
 

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Just buying KAAN or also join the development?
"Development" is a loaded word in aircraft production. TAI have signed multiple contracts with multiple countries. TAI Azerbaijan, joint training models with Pakistan, TAI Malaysia etc. It's been announced that all these offices are also related to Kaan development aside from other larger projects between TR and those countries. It's clear that joining Kaan program includes some form of ToT to the buyer, we don't know the details. Looks like Turkey holds the IP on all development however.

To me, it looks like TR is open to share tech and is also very open to creating country specific versions of Kaan that will enable those countries to own their Kaans completely but also will not hurt the Turkish Kaans, so win win. For any possible development contracts TAI might give out, it should be first come, first serve as there are still years of development ahead.
 

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