TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Zafer]

why, did he work on the jet or facilitate the purchase?

No. Because it is a major victory in defence industry to be proud of as a nation.

 

[norman88]

I stand corrected for the Rafale. Thanks.
You have more or less corroborated my views about the KAAN.

Honestly, this creates a significant misunderstanding. It gives the impression that a contract is already in place, when it's clearly still at the MOU stage.

 

[Afif]

Guys are you seriously saying turkish officials made up those numbers, timelines and specifications like KAAN being delivered with turkish engines?

No, those are projected. But the legally binding contract hasn’t been signed yet.

 

[Saithan]

I and many others don't give a f.... About the banner behind them. The paper they're signing could be anything else.

And yes, that is how little we believe in anything coming out of the Turkish officials mouths.

 

[TR_123456]

Will be too many expensive jets, they are buying 40 new 5th gens, awacs and air defense form China, they seem to have realized the immediacy of their weaknesses after recent incident and won't wait for Kaan and won't have money for it any time soo. Maybe in the future

Who is talking about soon?
First available KAAN(5th gen) for export will be in 2035.

 

[Quasar]

A very good news I guess! Yet I was kind of hoping that we could find partners who could contribute to development budget as well... Seems we are still alone in the hardest part yet finding customers to a finnished product to keep the TAI bussy and and to reduce the unit cost is almost equally important I guess.

 

[TR_123456]

Pakistan is purchasing the J-35 fighter jet at a discounted price without having paid off the loan for the J-10. China is providing a new loan for the J-35 while deferring the repayment of the J-10 loan.

Since Pakistan is already repaying two separate aircraft loans, it cannot afford to purchase our KAAN fighter jet with an upfront payment.

Can we offer them credit? (We were unable to offer credit for warship sales to other countries.)

We dont need to,by the time they need some KAAN's there will be countries like KSA,QATAR and other GCC countries willing to pay for Pakistan as they did in the past.
KSA even paid for our F-16's in the past when we had no funds.
Dont forget,Pakistan is the only muslim country with nukes and our closest ally.
Pakistan would come immediately in a war time situation,who else would?
In 10 years our economy will be in better shape,even with bad leadership,no worries.

 

[TR_123456]

A very good news I guess! Yet I was kind of hoping that we could find partners who could contribute to development budget as well... Seems we are still alone in the hardest part yet finding customers to a finnished product to keep the TAI bussy and and to reduce the unit cost is almost equally important I guess.

Arent you forgetting the KSA an Qatar?

 

[Saithan]

So Hürjet MoU with Spain is a lie too? Oh no...

We only got some 20 engines for Hürjet for prototype usage etc. Still no approval of engine sale from US Senate. Without engines, what so we have ? Oh noo.....

 

[Huelague]

I can imagine that some African states will also be our customers.

 

[Quasar]

I can imagine that some African states will also be our customers.

KAAN will be the backbone and the Future of Turkish Air force. No need for big words but I dont think we will face much difficulty in finding satisfactory amount of customers. Another advantage will be Unlike most 5 gens, KAAN will be a progressive platform i.e KAAN will develope gradually and in stages.

 

[Umigami]

When will 2nd prototype ready for roll out?

 

[mTT]

When will 2nd prototype ready for roll out?

TAI General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu:
"This year, two KAANs will take flight. We're also continuing the assembly of a static prototype. The first one will be completed by the end of this year, after which its flight tests will begin. The second one will follow shortly after. So, hopefully, at the beginning and in the middle of next year, we’ll see two KAANs flying together."

2 May 2025
TEKNOFEST TRNC

 

[Umigami]

TAI General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu:
"This year, two KAANs will take flight. We're also continuing the assembly of a static prototype. The first one will be completed by the end of this year, after which its flight tests will begin. The second one will follow shortly after. So, hopefully, at the beginning and in the middle of next year, we’ll see two KAANs flying together."

2 May 2025
TEKNOFEST TRNC

From my understanding 2nd prototype will be quiet different from the First one, right?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1895924382050177451

Also on expo TAI still use old model for presentation (much different from first prototype). Are they still consider that model much closer to production version?

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Kaan order book opened with an entry by Indonesia. Below map is my personal guess for the near future.

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Turkiye order is between 250 - 350 . Where u get that 100 number ?
We are not working with 20k people , spending 10+ billion development and 20 years just to order 100 aircraft . All f16 250 will be replaced by 250 kaans , than if we are good at economy and wars around us are still active , the numbers cam go beyond 300 easy ...

 

[mTT]

From my understanding 2nd prototype will be quiet different from the First one, right?

Yes, that's correct. Based on the information we gathered from two different brochures, there are noticeable differences. For example, the height of PT-0 is 20 ft, while PT-1 is 16 ft. That’s a 4 ft difference, which equals approximately 121 cm.

Also on expo TAI still use old model for presentation (much different from first prototype). Are they still consider that model much closer to production version?

If it's not a 1:1 scale mock-up, TAI doesn't update them. However, Maybe new mock-ups will be presented at IDEF, which will take place between July 22 and 27, 2025.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

TAI General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu:
"This year, two KAANs will take flight. We're also continuing the assembly of a static prototype. The first one will be completed by the end of this year, after which its flight tests will begin. The second one will follow shortly after. So, hopefully, at the beginning and in the middle of next year, we’ll see two KAANs flying together."

2 May 2025
TEKNOFEST TRNC

so this year aircraft will fly or next year ?

 

[mTT]

so this year aircraft will fly or next year ?

I think there will be a flight in September-October 2025

 

[Radko]

From my understanding 2nd prototype will be quiet different from the First one, right?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1895924382050177451

Also on expo TAI still use old model for presentation (much different from first prototype). Are they still consider that model much closer to production version?

No, they won't be massively different.

 

[Radko]

Yes, that's correct. Based on the information we gathered from two different brochures, there are noticeable differences. For example, the height of PT-0 is 20 ft, while PT-1 is 16 ft. That’s a 4 ft difference, which equals approximately 121 cm.




If it's not a 1:1 scale mock-up, TAI doesn't update them. However, Maybe new mock-ups will be presented at IDEF, which will take place between July 22 and 27, 2025.

How many times do I have to write it here? The "updated" PDF is not for P1, it is the correct size values for the P0.