TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Sanchez]

Some claim the tail boom will house both EW and part of radar suite, some say only a part of the EW suite. But by how BÜRFİS is structured, EW and radar are basically the same thing.

We'll learn more about it in the coming years anyhow.

 

[TheInsider]

Yes, i know this. I talked about that in the past. When I mentioned Burfis in the past, I wrote the exact same thing (360 degree radar coverage), but now I have this info that is different than the past info.

Data-link, sensor fusion, IRST, wide-angle AESA radars like Raven, passive sensors, cheek arrays. There are multiple solutions. Of course, having cheek arrays as a brute force solution is good, but cheek arrays don't have the same capability as the nose array. Nose array is bigger, have more power output, and range.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

My source directly asked TUSAS official at IDEF but of course it is possible that he might be a marketing person that doesn't have deep knowledge about the project having said that i doubt that and i consider this true unless i see a more reliable source

That's what I mean, I don't want to attack you or declare your source unprofessional, but you know yourself what fanboy talk is. And let's be honest, no matter what technological leaps we've made in the last 10 years, we have to view many things with skepticism and not take every piece of nonsense at face value or treat it as such.
If it were up to fanboys, they'd already be building spaceships with warp drive technology.

 

[TheInsider]

KAAN IVDL, this is not a mock-up.

 

[Strong AI]

KAAN IVDL, this is not a mock-up.

Could it be that Aselsan and some other companies working for KAAN are ahead of schedule?

 

[Strong AI]

We have signed an important agreement with Indonesia regarding the KAAN project.

The agreement with PT Republik Aero Dirgantara and PT Dirgantara Indonesia covers the procurement of 48 KAAN aircraft, as well as production, engineering, and technology sharing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948371343868653827

 

[Turkic]

Could it be that Aselsan and some other companies working for KAAN are ahead of schedule?

Yes, it was announced that some development programs were ahead of the schedule.

 

[TheInsider]

Could it be that Aselsan and some other companies working for KAAN are ahead of schedule?

The target date was always 2026.

 

[hugh]

KAAN's radar, MURAD 600

i wonder if this is representative of the latest design or an old mock-up they, conveniently, bring from fair to fair.

 

[TheInsider]

KAAN's radar, MURAD 600

i wonder if this is representative of the latest design or an old mock-up they, conveniently, bring from fair to fair.

It is a mock-up.

 

[hugh]

It is a mock-up.

yes that's obvious but is it updated? Is it worth to count the T/R modules of this mockup is what I'm trying to ask.

 

[Strong AI]

yes that's obvious but is it updated? Is it worth to count the T/R modules of this mockup is what I'm trying to ask.

To me that mockup looks smaller than MURAD-100.

 

[hugh]

To me that mockup looks smaller than MURAD-100.

 

[TheInsider]

yes that's obvious but is it updated? Is it worth to count the T/R modules of this mockup is what I'm trying to ask.

No, it is intentionally distorted. Details of Murad-600A are classified.

 

[Strong AI]

Bro i didn't say the mockup belongs to MURAD-100. I said it looks smaller than the real MURAD-100, meaning that it doesn't make sense to read something out of that mockup.

 

[TR_123456]

Maybe limits of power generation for the AESA radars or maybe because it's not useful to have a AESA radar sticking out of KAAN's butt

KAAN's but is already sticking out.they could have used the sticking out part.

@Yasar_TR abi,could they have used the ''butt'?

 

[uçuyorum]

Do we know if 270 degree is continuous? Maybe its front and back 270° coverage because it would be difficult to have 270 just from the nose, unless they are like angled 90 degrees?

 

[Strong AI]

Is this still valid?

 

[Nilgiri]

No reason for it to be non-continuous (radar here is both the nose and cheek combined into a blob), the issue for all a/c is the non-transparent body (to radar):

The cheek antennas probably already do a large part in extending coverage to 270 deg, as with nose only its likely less than 180 deg.

I would imagine maybe KAAN develops a DAS (on wings) later to address the 90 degree gap with EO sensor fusion along wings and aft body etc.

 

[Yasar_TR]

KAAN's but is already sticking out.they could have used the sticking out part.

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@Yasar_TR abi,could they have used the ''butt'?

You can’t stick that butt out too much. With afterburners on, it gets too hot there.
Also this plane uses a parachute to stop. I have a feeling they may put it there.
Having said that;
Kaan was designed to have AESA radars in both the front and the rear of the aircraft. It was expected to have X-band AESA radars on the side cheeks of the nose and tail. This is to provide wider radar coverage and the capability for both frontal and rear aspect jamming. The rear-looking AESA radar is a unique feature not found on other similar jets. But was part of the design features of Kaan. Where they placed it eludes me. But it was supposed to have it. Fuselage and tail are among places where BURFIS units may have been placed.
I vaguely remember Mr Kotil mentioning the various sensors and radar parts placed all over the plane. If someone can dig that interview up, then it could enlighten us all.