TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[TheInsider]

Could it be that Aselsan and some other companies working for KAAN are ahead of schedule?

The target date was always 2026.

 

[hugh]

KAAN's radar, MURAD 600

i wonder if this is representative of the latest design or an old mock-up they, conveniently, bring from fair to fair.

 

[TheInsider]

KAAN's radar, MURAD 600

i wonder if this is representative of the latest design or an old mock-up they, conveniently, bring from fair to fair.

It is a mock-up.

 

[hugh]

It is a mock-up.

yes that's obvious but is it updated? Is it worth to count the T/R modules of this mockup is what I'm trying to ask.

 

[hugh]

To me that mockup looks smaller than MURAD-100.

 

[TheInsider]

yes that's obvious but is it updated? Is it worth to count the T/R modules of this mockup is what I'm trying to ask.

No, it is intentionally distorted. Details of Murad-600A are classified.

 

[TR_123456]

Maybe limits of power generation for the AESA radars or maybe because it's not useful to have a AESA radar sticking out of KAAN's butt

KAAN's but is already sticking out.they could have used the sticking out part.

@Yasar_TR abi,could they have used the ''butt'?

 

[uçuyorum]

Do we know if 270 degree is continuous? Maybe its front and back 270° coverage because it would be difficult to have 270 just from the nose, unless they are like angled 90 degrees?

 

[Nilgiri]

No reason for it to be non-continuous (radar here is both the nose and cheek combined into a blob), the issue for all a/c is the non-transparent body (to radar):

The cheek antennas probably already do a large part in extending coverage to 270 deg, as with nose only its likely less than 180 deg.

I would imagine maybe KAAN develops a DAS (on wings) later to address the 90 degree gap with EO sensor fusion along wings and aft body etc.

 

[Yasar_TR]

KAAN's but is already sticking out.they could have used the sticking out part.

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@Yasar_TR abi,could they have used the ''butt'?

You can’t stick that butt out too much. With afterburners on, it gets too hot there.
Also this plane uses a parachute to stop. I have a feeling they may put it there.
Having said that;
Kaan was designed to have AESA radars in both the front and the rear of the aircraft. It was expected to have X-band AESA radars on the side cheeks of the nose and tail. This is to provide wider radar coverage and the capability for both frontal and rear aspect jamming. The rear-looking AESA radar is a unique feature not found on other similar jets. But was part of the design features of Kaan. Where they placed it eludes me. But it was supposed to have it. Fuselage and tail are among places where BURFIS units may have been placed.
I vaguely remember Mr Kotil mentioning the various sensors and radar parts placed all over the plane. If someone can dig that interview up, then it could enlighten us all.

 

[Sanchez]

Is this still valid?

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There's no reason for APU exhaust to be that large.

 

[Hannibal]

Yeah, it looks like they even changed its place.

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If the radar is only 270 degrees then the middle between the engines is either for drag chute or apu . Or they changed design.

 

[Radko]

They will have an array there.

Also IRIS-300 is the Turkish DAS

 

[hugh]

how powerful are side arrays compared to the nose mounted radar? the modules on the wings have to conform to the shape of the wing, no? so I assume they will be less powerful than MURAD-600? and will they also be X-band?

 

[Hannibal]

They will have an array there.

Also IRIS-300 is the Turkish DAS

The F-35 has no das component in the rear . How do you know this?

 

[Radko]

how powerful are side arrays compared to the nose mounted radar? the modules on the wings have to conform to the shape of the wing, no? so I assume they will be less powerful than MURAD-600? and will they also be X-band?

My guess is that they will be close to F-16s AESA

 

[hugh]

My guess is that they will be close to F-16s AESA

do we know if they will be on the wings or on the cheeks?

 

[Radko]

do we know if they will be on the wings or on the cheeks?

Cheeks

 

[Yasar_TR]

New Statements from Demiroğlu About KAAN!

TUSAŞ General Manager Dr. Mehmet Demiroğlu:

"In the upcoming April, we will see the first flying prototype 1, and three months after that, the second prototype will also take flight. Currently, we are working on 3 prototypes being prepared for flight."

"In addition to those, we are working on one static aircraft, making a total of 4 aircraft in development. Later, we will build 3 more. Hopefully, we will begin our first deliveries to the Turkish Air Force around 2028–2029."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948732316437602743

P1 was supposed to fly this year according to the statement he gave July last year when he took over from Kotil.

KAAN'ın diğer prototipleri daha fazla uçacak

TUSAŞ Genel Müdürü Mehmet Fatih Demiroğlu, milli muharip uçak KAAN'ın test sürecine ilişkin açıklamalarda bulundu.

www.defenceturk.net

Now it is second quarter of next year.

One thing he is good at; each time he opens his mouth to give a date he postpones something as if it is the first time he is saying it. And nobody seems to question him.
Just this year in Technofest he said 2 KAANs will fly this year. Then in the same speech he changed it to one will fly this year the other early next year.

TUSAŞ'tan KAAN için çifte uçuş müjdesi | SavunmaSanayiST

TUSAŞ Genel Müdürü Mehmet Demiroğlu, TEKNOFEST KKTC’de SavunmaSanayiST'ye KAAN ve HÜRJET projelerine dair açıklamalarda bulundu.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Who will believe him now???

 

[TheInsider]

P1 was supposed to fly this year according to the statement he gave July last year when he took over from Kotil.

KAAN'ın diğer prototipleri daha fazla uçacak

TUSAŞ Genel Müdürü Mehmet Fatih Demiroğlu, milli muharip uçak KAAN'ın test sürecine ilişkin açıklamalarda bulundu.

www.defenceturk.net

Now it is second quarter of next year.

One thing he is good at; each time he opens his mouth to give a date he postpones something as if it is the first time he is saying it. And nobody seems to question him.
Just this year in Technofest he said 2 KAANs will fly this year. Then in the same speech he changed it to one will fly this year the other early next year.

TUSAŞ'tan KAAN için çifte uçuş müjdesi | SavunmaSanayiST

TUSAŞ Genel Müdürü Mehmet Demiroğlu, TEKNOFEST KKTC’de SavunmaSanayiST'ye KAAN ve HÜRJET projelerine dair açıklamalarda bulundu.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Who will believe him now???

It is not that bad. Delivery at the end of 2028 was never a realistic date anyway. A delay in the delivery of a simple component can cause several weeks of delay. They were like pushing crazy counting days and weeks to arrive at the end of 2028. I don't know why, maybe because SSB is against buying Eurofighter and F-16/F-35 while MSB want to buy Eurofighter and F-16/F-35. It is to say, look, you will get the first fighter 3,5 years from now. The first half of 2029 is a realistic target.